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SCHMUCKER AGREED THAT WE SHOULD PROCEED; AND COMMISSIONER DEESON <br />CONCURRED THAT THE CHAIRMAN SHOULD CONTINUE NEGOTIATING WITH <br />OFFICIALS OF MID FLORIDA. <br />THE BOARD AGREED THAT THE CHAIRMAN SHOULD CONTINUE TO <br />NEGOTIATE WITH ALL THE OFFICIALS INVOLVED AND THAT THE MATTER <br />SHOULD BE RESEARCHED WITH FARMERS HOME ADMINISTRATION. <br />COMMISSIONER SIEBERT LEFT THE MEETING AT 11:20 O'CLOCK <br />A. M. <br />HAMILTON ARDEN OF ARDEN INSURANCE SERVICES CAME BEFORE <br />THE BOARD TO DISCUSS RENEWAL OF WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION INSURANCE. <br />HE STATED, IN REGARD TO THE FIGURES HE PRESENTED, THAT NO MATTER <br />HOW YOU PLAY WITH DISCOUNTS, ETC., THERE SIMPLY IS AN S% SURCHARGE <br />FOR BEING IN THE PLAN. HE ALSO PRESENTED TO THE BOARD A CRITIQUE <br />ON THE ADVANTAGES AND PIT -FALLS INVOLVED IN SELF-INSURANCE. MR. <br />ARDEN EXPLAINED THAT AN INSURANCE COMPANY HAS TO GO THROUGH A CERTAIN <br />FORMULA TO ARRIVE AT RATES, AND IT TAKES THREE YEARS TO GO THROUGH <br />THE FORMULAS, HE NOTED THAT THE COUNTY DID HAVE A BAD YEAR AND ALSO <br />RESISTED THE IN-HOUSE SAFETY PROGRAM WHICH HAS RESULTED IN THE RATES <br />PRESENTED. MR. ARDEN EXPLAINED THAT COUNTIES IN GENERAL ARE NOT A <br />DESIRABLE CLASS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF CLASSIFICATIONS WHICH <br />CAN PROMPT SEVERE CLAIMS. <br />DISCUSSION FOLLOWED ON THE PROS AND CONS OF HAVING A <br />SAFETY DIRECTOR AND WHETHER THE COST WOULD JUSTIFY THE RESULTS, <br />MR. ARDEN POINTED OUT THAT SELF -INSURERS EXPERIENCE THE <br />SAME THINGS THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES DO, AND POINTED OUT THAT THE <br />COUNTY IS CONTEMPLATING GOING INTO A FUND THAT IS NON-EXISTENT. <br />HE FELT THAT THE FIRM WHO IS GOING TO HANDLE THE FUND HAS AN <br />EXCELLENT REPUTATION, BUT THE FUND ITSELF HAS NO TRACK RECORD. <br />FINANCE OFFICER BARTON NOTED THAT THIS IS THE SECOND <br />YEAR WE WILL BE IN THE ASSIGNED RISK CATEGORY AND ASKED IF WE DID <br />HIRE A SAFETY DIRECTOR AND THE EXPERIENCE LEVELED OFF, IS THERE <br />A POINT IN TIME WHEN WE WOULD COME OUT OF THE ASSIGNED RISK. <br />MR. ARDEN STATED THAT THERE IS. <br />37 <br />SES 6 178 <br />