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1 JAN 18 1984 KXK 55 Commissioner Wodtke asked that Mr. Duynslager explain the statement in his report on Page 3 which states that they have not conducted a formal or complete utility rate study. Mr. Duynslager explained that if they were to do a formal rate study, which would be much more in depth, they would have to have someone go through and verify all the expenses and not just work from the CPA's annual reports. Chairman Scurlock noted that Mr. Duynslager examined the existing expenses and revenue sources and he wished to know how the items such as salary, travel costs, etc., compare with the projected figures. Mr. Duynslager stated that the proposal is greater. He referred to Table 2 on Page 16 of his report and stated that he has looked at the 1981 and 1982 years and he is suggest- ing that appropriate expenses would be somewhere in the range of $136,000 rather than $213,000. Intervener White requested that the Greeley and Hansen Report of September 1983 be marked and entered as Intervener's Exhibit #2. Attorney Micale asked if this report relates to the second phase of today's hearing, and Intervener White stated that he would like to submit it now and have it apply to both phases. He continued that he wished to introduce Intervener's Exhibit #1, which is the accounting report, and Intervener's Exhibit #2, which is the report of the Greeley and Hansen firm. Attorney Micale had no objection providing they have an opportunity to cross examine. Intervener White informed the Board that this concludes their presentation on the existing rate issue. Commissioner Lyons commented that he hates to see anybody spend any more money than they have to to get the question settled as to what the proper existing rate is, and he would like to see everyone pool their assets to come up 27