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HomeMy WebLinkAbout6/13/1973WEDNESDAY, JUNE 13, 1973 THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA MET IN SPECIAL SESSION AT THE COURTHOUSE, VERO BEACH, FLORIDA ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 13, 1973 AT 7:40 O'CLOCK P.M. PRESENT WERE ALMA LEE LOY,_CHAIRMAN, EDWARD J. MASSEY, VICE CHAIRMAN: WILLARD W. SIEBERT, JR.; AND RICHARD P. BOGOSIAN. ABSENT WERE JACK U. DRITENBAS, JACK G. JENNINGS$ COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND PAUL D. BURCH, ATTORNEY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. ALSO PRESENT WAS L.S. THOMAS DEPUTY CLERK. VAL BRENNAN. PLANNING DIRECTOR AND MAYOR CHARLES ZIMMER OF SEBASTIAN WERE ALSO PRESENT, CHAIRMAN Loy CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AND ASKED THE COMMISSION IF THEY WISHED TO ENDORSE MR. BRE NNAN�S BUDGET PRO- POSAL AS A RESULT OF THE JOINT MEETING WITH THE CITY OF VERO BEACH. MR, BRENNAN EXPLAINED TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ;HE THOUGHT HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HIRE THE PEOPLE THAT HE NEEDS FOR NEXT YEAR, AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE OF THE CONTINGENCY WHICH THE CITY OF VERO BEACH ATTACHED TO THE INTERIM BUDGET OF $36,000.00 WHICH WAS TO BE USED FOR THE BALANCE OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, MR. BRENNAN SAID THAT HE DID NOT FEEL HE SHOULD HIRE PEOPLE THAT HE COULD NOT ASSURE WOULD BE HERE MORE THAN FOUR MONTHS. MR. BRENNAN INDICATED HE HAD LOCATED AN ASSISTANT PLANNER AND HE CONCLUDED BY SAYING., "I AM VERY FRUSTRATED AT THIS POINT - I KNOW THERE IS A JOB TO BE DONE. BECAUSE OF THE PERCENTAGES INVOLVED, IT MEANS THAT $13,000.00 IS HOLDING UP THE ENTIRE PLANNING PROGRAM." CHAIRMAN LOY ASKED MR. BRENNAN IF IT IS THE POSITION OF THE CITY OF VERO BEACH THAT THEY WILL HONOR THEIR 50-50 AGREEMENT FOR THE $36,000.00 IF THE COUNTY AGREES TO 60-40 SPLIT FOR THE. NEXT BUDGET YEAR - WITH THE COUNTY PAYING THE 60%. JUN 131973 - unu 17 PAGE142 1 MR. BRENNAN REPLIED THAT IT WAS HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY AGREED TO PAY 50% OF THE $36,000.00 ON A 50-50 BASIS WITH NO STRINGS. ATTACHED. CHAIRMAN Loy STATED THAT THIS MUST BE HOW COUNCILMAN CAMPBELL IS KEEPING US IN LINE. COMMISSIONER DRITENBAS ENTERED THE MEETING AT 8:00 O'CLOCK P.M. COMMISSIONER MASSEY RAISED THE POSSIBILITY OF OPERATING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON A FEE BASIS. HE QUESTIONED,' "WOULD YOU BE BETTER OFF TO HAVE JUST ONE BOSS AND INCLUDE THE ENTIRE COUNTY",, MR. BRENNAN ASKED WHETHER OR NOT THE CITIES WOULD PARTICIPATE. COMMISSIONER MASSEY REPLIED, "YES, IF THEY WANTED TO AM ONLY SUGGESTING THAT THE COUNTY HAVE ONE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY". MR. BRENNAN STATED THAT IT IS A POSSIBILITY I AND ALTHOUGH HE FELT THAT EVEN THOUGHIT WOULD TAKE MORE TIME TO BILL THE CITIES FOR SERVICES RENDERED IT WOULD COST LESS TO OPERATE THE DEPARTMENT. CHAIRMAN LOY THEN STATED THAT IT WAS HER OPINION THAT PLANNING IS NEEDED NOW MORE THAN EVER, AND HER POSITION WOULD BE THAT IF THE COUNTY PAID 60% OF THE,COST THEN 60% OF THE WORK SHOULD BE DONE IN THE COUNTY. MR. BRENNAN STATED HE FELT THAT THE FEES SHOULD GO TO THE DEPARTMENT INVOLVED IN EACH STUDY. COMMISSIONER MASSEY THEN ASKED MAYOR ZIMMER HOW MANY LOTS WERE THEREIN SEBASTIAN THAT WERE ON PAVED STREETS, MAYOR ZIMMER STATED THAT THERE WERE 14 TO 15 THOUSAND'.* BOTH COMMISSIONER MASSEY, AND MAYOR ZIMMER FELT THAT THERE WOULD BE MUCH BUILDING ON THESE LOTS IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND WOULD PROBABLY NEED THE SERVICES OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT*.' MR. BRENNAN STATED HE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IMPOSING PLANNING ON ANY MUNICIPALITY, COMMISSIONER MASSEY REPLIED THAT HE DID NOT WANT TO .IMPOSE PLANNING ON SEBASTIAN AS IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THEIR DECISION. -2- JUN 131973 ea I a 47 'PAGE 14136 ri r: MR. BRENNAN STATED AGAIN THAT HE DID NOT FAVOR A YARE BASIS, _ COUNTY -WIDE DEPARTMENT, BUT DID FAVOR A. AT THIS POINT COMMISSIONER SIEBERT STATED,THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE LOTS OF LOSERS AND NO WINNERS. COMMISSIONER DRITENBAS STATED THAT ON A 60-40 BASIS HE BELIEVED THE COUNTY IS GETTING A GOOD DEAL. CHAIRMAN LOY ASKED, "WHAT IF WE CHANGED TO A COUNTY- WIDE DEPARTMENT, WOULD WE UNDOUBTEDLY END -UP WITH ADDITIONAL 1 DEPARTMENTS? COMMISSIONER DRITENBAS STATED THAT HE COULD NOT SEE WHY THE CITY WOULD WANT TO ESTABLISH ANOTHER PLANNING DEPARTMENT. COMMISSIONER BOGOSIAN STATED THAT ALL OF THESE . ARGUMENTS ARE FINE, BUT FROM A RESPONSIBILITY POINT" OF VIEW, THE DECISION IS UP TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER BOGOSIAN FURTHER STATED THAT HE WOULD BASE THE SERVICES ON THE POPULATION OF EACH CITY AND THE COUNTY. IT WAS NOT UP TO US TO TELL THE CITY WHETHER THEY SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT HAVE A SEPARATE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. HE FURTHER STATED THAT IF WE DO GO ON A 60-40 BASIS THAT THE COUNTY SET THE BUDGET, AS HE DID NOT THINK THE CITY OF VERO BEACH SHOULD HAVE AN EQUAL SAY. FURTHER DISCUSSION FOLLOWED ON THE INTERIM $36.000.00 BUDGET FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. ON MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOGOSIAN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MASSEY, THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROPRIATE $15,000.00 TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR HIRING ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AND THE OPERATION OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR THE BALANCE OF THE COUNTY IS FISCAL YEAR. THIS WAS WITH THE EXPECTATION TO CONTINUE THE EMPLOYMENT OF SUCH PEOPLE INTO THE NEXT YEAR, NO CONTINGENCIES WITH RESPECT TO THE ABOVE MOTION WERE CONSIDERED AS FAR AS THE CITY OF VERO BEACH IS CONCERNED. � -3- JUN 131973 V PA4444 i THERE FOLLOWED FURTHER DICUSSION OF THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. ON.MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOGOSIAN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DRITENBAS, THAT THE BUDGET FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BE ADDED TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BUDGET FOR CONSIDERATION ALONG WITH THE OTHER'.DEPARTMENTAL.BUDGETS. THE AMOUNT OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET REQUEST IS $114,910.00. CHAIRMAN Loy CALLED FOR DISCUSSION AND COMMISSIONER SIEBERT ASKED, "WILL THIS LIMIT OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY AS FAR AS A PERCENTAGE SPLIT IS CONCERNED?" COMMISSIONER BOGOSIAN REPLIED THAT HE FEELS WE CAN DIS- CUSS PERCENTAGE SPLIT AT ANY TIME, AND DOES NOT WANT TO DELAY ACTION UNREASONABLY IN THIS MATTER, AT THIS POINT COMMISSIONER MASSEY CALLED FOR THE QUESTION. THE MOTION WAS CARRIED WITH COMMISSIONER SIEBERT VOTING AGAINST THE LOTION. COMMISSIONER BOGOSIAN STATED THAT HE FELT THAT IF THE COMMISSION AGREED WITH A SPLIT AT THIS TIME, THEY IN EFFECT WOULD AGREE TO ALL OF THE.CITY'S TERMS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS RIGHT. CHAIRMAN LOY THEN STATED THAT THE PROCEDURE THAT WAS JUST ADOPTED GIVES US SOME LEEWAY TO MOVE WITH RESPECT TO THE BUDGET AND THE CITY OF VERO BEACH. IT ALSO GIVES MR. BRENNAN A CHANCE TO PROCEED IMMEDIATELY. COMMISSIONER DRITENBAS AGAIN STATED THAT AS SOON AS WE AGREE TO ANY SPLIT, WE ARE IN EFFECT AGREEING TO THE TOTAL BUDGET, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, ON MOTION MADE, SECONDED AND CARRIED THE BOARD ADJOURNED AT 11:01 O'CLOCK P.M. r• ATTEST: LERK HAIRMAN -4- Bonk - PA�E145, JUN 45 - JUN 131973