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JUNE 17, 1974
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF INDIAN RIVER
COUNTY, FLORIDA MET IN SPECIAL SESSION AT THE COURTHOUSE,
VERO BEACH, FLORIDA ON MONDAY JUNE 17, 1974 AT 4:00 O'CLOCK
P.M. PRESENT WERE ALMA LEE Loy, CHAIRMAN; EDWARD J. MASSEY,
VICE CHAIRMAN; JACK U. DRITENBAS; WILLARD W. SIEBERT, JR.;
RICHARD P. BOGOSIAN. ALSO PRESENT WERE JACK G. JENNINGS,
COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR; PAUL D. BURCH, ATTORNEY TO THEBOARD•
OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS; L.S. THOMAS, COUNTY COORDINATOR;
` JACK HOCKMAN AND VIRGINIA HARGREAVES,DEPUTY CLERKS.
OFFICIALS OF ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY
WERE INVITED TO ATTEND THIS SPECIAL MEETING. THOSE ATTENDING
WERE:
ARTHUR NEUBERGERr MAYOR, CITY OF VERO BEACH
JAY A. SMITH, COUNCILMAN, CITY OF VERO BEACH
DAVID GREGG, JR., COUNCILMAN, CITY OF VERO BEACH
FRED CARLSEN, COUNCILMAN, CITY OF VERO BEACH
ROBERT F.LLOYD, ENGINEER TO THE CITY OF VERO BEACH
F. EUGENE CRAGG, MAYOR, TOWN OF SEBASTIAN
JAMES C. KINARD, COUNCILMAN, TOWN OF SEBASTIAN
ROLAND MILLER, MAYOR, TOWN OF INDIAN RIVElR SHORES
ALEX MACWILLIAM, JR., COUNCILMAN, TOWN OF INDIAN RIVER SHORES
CONRAD TUERK, COUNCILMAN, TOWN OF INDIAN RIVER SHORES
ROBERT KOHLER, COUNCILMAN, TOWN OF INDIAN RIVER SHORES
GEORGE LIER, MAYOR, TOWN OF ORCHID
THE CHAIRMAN CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AND STATED
THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS PUBLIC MEETING WAS TO BRIEF AND INFORM
EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES OF A GRANT PROGRAM, THE "201
FACILITIES PLAN, THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION IPJ REGARD TO THE
PROPOSED COUNTYWIDE SEWERAGE PROGRAM,
CHAIRMAN LOY THEN INTRODUCED DR. DAVID SMITH AND WILLIAM
SABIS, OF SVERDRUP & PARCEL & ASSOCIATES, INC., COUNTY CONSULTING
ENGINEERS.
DR. SMITH EXPLAINED THAT PREPARATION OF THIS PLAN IS
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NECESSARY..IN ORDER TO BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR SEWERAGE FACILITIES
DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION GRANTS FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
AGENCY AND ASKED MR. SABIS TO ELABORATE ON THE "201 FACILITIES
PLAN" AND WHAT IT REQUIRED.'
MR. SARIS EXPLAINED THAT THE "201 FACILITIES PLAN" IS
A RELATIVELY NEW REQUIREMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
AGENCY AND DIFFERS FROM OTHER PLANS MAINLY IN THE EXTENT
OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. A GREAT DEAL OF TIME IS SPENT IN
EDUCATING THE PUBLIC. HE STATED THAT THE TOTAL ESTIMATED.COST
OF THIS PROPOSED PLANNING OPERATION IS $350,000.00 - 75%
OF WHICK WILL BE PROVIDED BY A GRANT FROM THE E.P.A.AND HE
FURTHER STATED THAT THE PRIOR PLANNING WORK PAID FOR BY THE
COUNTY, IN THE AMOUNT OF $90,000.00 WOULD APPLY TO THE 257
THE COUNTY IS EXPECTED TO CONTRIBUTE. THUS NO FURTHER FUNDS
WOULD BE REQUIRED OF THE COUNTY IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THIS
`201" PLAN.
MR. SABIS FURTHER EXPLAINED THAT PARTICIPATION IN THIS
PLAN DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE COUNTY TO PROCEED WITH FURTHER
STEPS OR'TO GO ON WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COUNTYWIDE
SEWERAGE SYSTEM.
CHAIRMAN LOY NEXT INTRODUCED WARREN STRAHM OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF POLLUTION CONTROL,LOCATED IN FORT LAUDERDALE,
MR.STRAHM INFORMED THOSE PRESENT THAT REQUIREMENTS FOR
SEWERAGE . TREATMENT ARE•GOING TO BECOME MORE STRINGENT YEAR BY
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YEAR, AND SINCE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS WILLING TO SHARE IN THE
COST OF DEVELOPING SEWERAGE SYSTEMS, THE STATE ENCOURAGES THE
MUNICIPALITIES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS. HE POINTED OUT
THAT MANY PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HELD ON THESE PLANS AS
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS TO BE VERY SURE THAT THIS IS
SOMETHING THE PUBLIC WANTS AND THEY ALSO WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY
HOW IT WILL BE HANDLED. MR. STRAHM EMPHASIZED THE NEED FOR
COOPERATION BETWEEN THE MUNICIPALITIES AS IT IS VERY UNLIKELY
THAT A GRANT WOULD BE MADE TO JUST ONE SMALL MUNICIPALITY AT
A TIME. HE ALSO POINTED OUT THAT THERE ARE MANY IN LINE
ALREADY APPLYING FOR THESE GRANTS AND IN ORDER TO GET ANY
PRIORITY A MOVE SHOULD REALLY BE MADE NOW.
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` .JAMES BEINDORF, COUNTY CONSULTING ENGINEER SPOKE
BRIEFLY ON HOW THIS PROGRAM INVOLVES ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES.
CITY COUNCILMAN GREGG ASKED WHAT WAS COVERED BY THE
$90,000.00 ALREADY SPENT BY THE COUNTY.
DR. SMITH -SAID THIS INVOLVED PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING
STUDIES.
ROLAND MILLER, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF INDIAN RIVER
SHORES ASKED WHY THE AUDUBON SOCIETY HAD BEEN MENTIONED IN CON-
NECTION WITH THE PROGRAM.
MR. SABIS EXPLAINED THAT EVERY SOCIETY HAVING TO DO
" WITH THE'ECOLOGY OF THE AREA MUST BE CONSULTED,
MAYOR MILLER ALSO WONDERED IF THE SEWERAGE PLAN THEY
HAD ALREADY DEVELOPED FOR THE TOWN OF INDIAN RIVER SHORES WOULD
FIT"INTO THE PROPOSED COUNTYWIDE SYSTEM.
DR. SMITH EXPLAINED THAT THERE MUST BE A NUMBER OF TRIALS
AND ERRORS AND MANY LAY -OUTS FOR SUBAREAS TO COME UP WITH AN
OVERALL SYSTEM AND THERE WAS NO WAY NOW TO TELL IF THEIR
PLAN WOULD FIT OR NOT.
MAYOR CRAGG OF THE TOWN OF SEBASTIAN ASKED IF THE
SEWER SYSTEM WOULD INCLUDE A WATER SYSTEM.
MR. SABIS ANSWERED THAT THIS PLAN DEALS ONLY WITH
SEWERAGE FACILITIES NOT WATER, BUT THE WATER SUPPLY MUST BE
CONSIDERED.
MR. SARIS STATED•THAT THE FUNDING MONEY WOULD PROBABLY
ONLY COVER THE TREATMENT PLANT.AND MAIN TRUNK LINES INTO IT.
SEBASTIAN WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE OVERALL PLAN, BUT THIS
DOES NOT MEAN THE FUNDING WOULD COVER CONSTRUCTION OF THE
SEWER LINES IN SEBASTIAN.
CITY COUNCILMAN GREGG ASKED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THERE
WERE A CONFLICT OF PLANS,
MR. STRAHM STATED THAT TO GET IN THE RUNNING FOR
FEDERAL FUNDS, YOU HAVE TO SHOW THE STATE THAT IT IS A PLAN
ACCEPTABLE TO THE MAJORITY OF THE AREA AS THE GOVERNMENT IS
NOT INCLINED TO GRANT LOANS WHERE THERE IS A CONFLICT.
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT ASKED WHAT IF OUT OF FIVE
MUNICIPALITIES ONLY ONE DOENIT WANT IT?
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DR. SMITH EXPLAINED THAT THIS IS DOCUMENTED WITH THE
APPLICATION AND THE DEPARTMENT WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION.
ALEX MACWILLIAM, COUNCILMAN OF THE TOWN OF INDIAN
RIVER SHORES QUESTIONED HOW THE $350,000.00 ESTIMATED COST
OF THE PLANNING PROGRAM WAS ARRIVED AT,
CHAIRMAN Loy STATED THAT DR. SMITH HAD BEEN AUTHORIZED
TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT WAS INVOVLED IN A "201" APPLICATION
AND HE CHECKED WITH THE STATE TO DETERMINE APPROXIMATELY
WHAT THEY FELT THE COST WOULD BE TO DEVELOP THIS WHOLE
APPLICATION.
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT SAID THAT THIS ESTIMATED COST HAD
BEEN BROKEN DOWN IN GREAT DETAIL SHOWING MAN HOURS, TIME
REQUIRED FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, ETC.
ATTORNEY BURCH ASKED IF ONE MUNICIPALITY COULD ACT
INDEPENDENTLY OF ANOTHER UNDER THE GRANT.
MR. STRAHM EXPLAINED THAT THE COUNTY MUST GET USER
AGREEMENTS WITH ALL OF THE OUT -LYING AREAS BEFORE IT CAN GET
THE GRANT.,
CHAIRMAN LOY THEN ADDRESSED ALL THE OFFICIALS OF
THE VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES AND REQUESTED THAT THEY TAKE THIS
INFORMATION BACK TO THEIR COUNCILS FOR DISCUSSION AND THEN
MAKE THEIR WISHES KNOWN TO THIS BOARD, SO THAT A DECISION CAN
BE MADE AS TO WHETHER TO.PROCEED WITH THIS "201" PLAN.
DR, SMITH INFORMED THE BOARD THAT IF THE MUNICIPALITIES
DO DECIDE THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE, THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD
NEED A RESOLUTION FROM EACH OF THEM NAMING AN INDIVIDUAL AS A
REPRESENTATIVE TO WORK IN THE PLANNING OPERATION,
MAYOR CRAGG OF THE TOWN OF SEBASTIAN STATED HE FELT
THAT THIS IS ONE TIME WE ALL SHOULD PULL TOGETHER ESPECIALLY
AS IT ISN IT GOING TO COST ANYTHING FURTHER AND WE SHOULD AT
LEAST GET THE "201" PLAN.
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CHAIRMAN LOY THANKED EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING AND
REQUESTED THAT THE MUNICIPALITIES INFORM THE BOARD OF'
THEIR DECISIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
THEIR BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS ON POTION MADE
SECONDED AND CARRIED THE BOARD ADJOURNED AT 5:25 O'CLOCK
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