HomeMy WebLinkAbout3/13/1975THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF INDIAN RIVER COUNTY,
FLORIDA, MET IN SPECIAL SESSION AT THE COURTHOUSE, VERO BEACH,'
FLORIDA ON THURSDAY, MARCH 13, 1975 AT 10:00 O'CLOCK A.M. PRESENT
WERE ALMA LEE LOY, CHAIRMAN; WILLARD W. SSIEBERT, JR., VICE CHAIRMAN;
EDWARD J. MASSEY, WILLIAM WODTKE AND EDWIN S. SCHMUCKER. ALSO
PRESENT WERE JACK G. JENNINGS, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. PAUL D.
BURCH, ATTORNEY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WAS ABSENT
BECAUSE OF ILLNESS AND CALVIN B. BROWN, ATTORNEY, SAT IFS 7OR HIM.
CHAIRMAN LOY CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AND PRESENTED
CHARLES L. HERRING, ATTORNEY REPRESENTING URBAN DEVELOPMENT
UTILITIES.
MR. HERRING INTRODUCED THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE INVITED TO
THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS URBAN DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES/WATER PROBLEMS.
ROBERT JENNINGS, SANITARIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT
BILL BOSTWICK, DEPARTMENT OF POLLUTION CONTROL,REGIONAL OFFICE
JERRY BALLARD, ENGINEER, FARMERS HOME ADMINISTRATION, GAINESVILLE
WALLACE W. MCCORMACK FARMERS HOME ADMINISTRATION
WILLIAM W. WEATHERS, FARMERS HOME ADMINISTRATION
PAUL T. COLLIER, OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL, DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
CLAUDE L. GREEN, DIRECTOR, FARMERS HOME ADMINISTRATION
VANCE KIDDER, ATTORNEY ENVIRONMENTAL LAW SECTION, DEPARTMENT OF
OLLUTION CONTROL
PAUL PHILLIPS, P.E., DEPARTMENT OF POLLUTION CONtROL, FORT PIERCE
OFFICE
CHUCK BITZEY, DEPARTMENT OF POLLUTION CONTROL
LILLA MAE MIMIS, URBAN DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES, INC.
LEON YOUNG, ENGINEER,URBAN DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES, INC.
FRED FLAIR, PRESIDENT,URBAN DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES, INC.
GLOVER HUSTON, URBAN DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES, INC.
GEORGE JOHNSON, DIRECTOR, URBAN DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES, INC.
TOMMY LEE TURNER, URBAN DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES, INC.
TILDEN DAVIS, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY SCHOOLS
DR. DAVID SMITH, OUNTY CONSULTING ENGINEER,.SVERDRUP AND PARC LS AND
SSOCIATES, INC. AND BEINDORF AND ASSOCIATES, INC.
A JOINT VENTURE)
ROBERT BERG, ASSISTANT PLANNING DIRECTOR
MR. HERRING THEN PROCEEDED TO:GIVE THE BOARD BACKGROUND
INFORMATION OF THE WATER AND SEWER PROBLEMS PLAGUING URBAN DEVELOP-
MENT UTILITIES AND IN SUMMARIZING STATED:THAT A LONG TERM ANSWER TO
THE WATER SITUATION IN THE.:GIEFORD AREA AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
UTILITIES WOULD BE TO ASK THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IF THEY WOULD
EXERCISE THEIR OPTION TO SECURE WATER FROM THE CITY OF VERO BEACH
FOR RESALE TO URBAN DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES.
THE COUNTY WOULD BUY WATER FROM THE CITY OF VERO BEACH
AND SELL IT TO THE APPROXIMATELY 1163 CUSTOMERS; OF URBAN DEVELOPMENT
UTILITIES.
MR. HERRING STATED THAT FARMERS HOME ADMINISTRATION IS
PREPARED TO LOAN U.D.U. AN ADDITIONAL $122,210.00, TQ-BE.USED`TO
CARRY LINES FROM THE CITY OF VERO BEACH TO THE U.D.U. SYSTEM. MR.
HERRING CONTINUED THAT THIS COULD BE DOME WITHOUT COST TO THE COUNTY:
DR. DAVID SMITH, COUNTY CONSULTING ENGINEER STATED THAT HE
HAD SERIOUS RESERVATIONS ABOUT U.D.U'S ABILITY TO OBTAIN A GOOD
QUALITY OF WATER FROM THIS AREA AND HE FEELS THE ONLY LONG RANGE
SOLUTION IS THE AVAILABILITY. OF TREATED WATER THROUGH THE CITY
OF VERO BEACH.
DR. SMITH STATED THAT AN OPERATIONAL BUDGET TO OPERATE THE
SYSTEM TODAY HAS.BEEN PREPARED. THE BUDGET FOR OPERATING INCLUDES
ENOUGH LABOR, MATERIALS AND POWER COSTS TO ACTUALLY MEET THE £X-
PENDITURE OF WHOLESALE COSTS. WITH THE NUMBER OF:CUSTOMERS U.D.U.
HAS, THE INCOME WILL BE MARGINAL.. HE THEN RECOMMENDED A SMALL IN-
CREASE IN THE PRESENT WATER RATE SCHEDULE SO THAT THERE WILL BE MORE
INCOME THEN EXPENDITURES.
THE QUESTION OF MANAGEMENT OF THIS SYSTEM WAS DISCUSSED
AND IT WAS STATED THAT IF THE BOARD'S .DECISION IS FAVORABLE TO
EXERCISE THEIR OPTION WITH THE CITY OF VERO BEACH, THEN FARMERS
HOME ADMINISTRATION WILL ASK THE COUNTY''TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT
WITH THEM TO MANAGE U.D.U. FACILITIES. IT WAS STATED -THAT GOOD
MANAGEMENT PRACTICES MUST BE INITIATED AND FOLLOWED AND ARE VITAL
TO THE SUCCESS OF THESE MEASURES BEING TAKEN TO IMPROVE MAYS
SERVICE.
COMMISSIONER SCHMUCKER ASKED "ASSUMING THAT'U.D.U. CAN
OBTAIN WATER FROM THE CITY OF VERO BEACHIIS THEIR.SYSTEM ADEQUATEZ"
DR. SMITH ANSWERED THAT THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IS IN GOOD:
SHAPE AND ALL THE WATER METERS WILL BE CHECKED TO SEE THAT THEY ARE
OPERATING PROPERLY.
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT STATED THAT WITHOUT A QUALIFIED OP-
ERATOR -MANAGER THIS SYSTEM WILL NOT WORK AND HE QUESTIONED IF THE
COUNTY WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO MANAGE THIS SYSTEM, AND SUGGESTED
THE POSSIBILITY OF A MANAGEMENT CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF VERO BEACH:
BEING CONSIDERED.
WILLIAM WEATHERS, FARMERS HOME ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL
STATED THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE FINEST SYSTEM AND WITH POOR MANAGEMENT
IT WILL NOT SUCCEED. THIS HAD BEEN DISCUSSED AND ONE OF THE CON
DITIONS TO THE LOAN -GRANT APPROVAL WILL BE THAT F.H.A. MUST ENTER
INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH A QUALIFIED.OPERATORMANAGER. THEY WERE
HOPING THAT THE COUNTY WOULD AGREE TO OPERATE AND MANAGE THIS
SYSTEM.
LEON YOUNG/ MANAGER OF U.D.U. STATED THAT WHEN THEIR
INITIAL BUDGET WAS SET UP BY F.H.A. IT WAS BASED SOLEY ON THE
AMOUNT OF MONEY NEEDED TO MAKE PAYMENTS ON THE F.H.A. LOAN. As A
RESULT, EVEN IF THE 463 WATER USERS THEY NOW HAVE PAY THEIR MONTHLY
FEES 100%, THERE WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THE
OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE EXPENSES OF U.. D,U.
MR YOUNG STATED THAT U.D.U. HAS OPERATED IN THE RED
FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE. IN ORDER
FOR U.D.U. TO MEET THEIR FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS THEY WILL NEED A
RATE INCREASE THAT WILL BE ADEQUATE TO -MAKE REPAYMENT TO F.H.A. AND.
TO MEET THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES.
COMMISSIONER MASSEY ASKED F.H.A. OFFICIALS WHAT WILL HAPPEN
TO THE $616,000.00 WHICH IS THE AMOUNT OF THE PRESENT LOAN TO U.D.U.
MR. WEATHERS STATED THAT WE WILL MAKE AN ADDITIONAL LOAN-
GRANT TO UP -GRADE THIS SYSTEM AND WORK WITH U.D.U. IN OPERATING AND
MANAGEMENT OF THIS SYSTEM. AS THE SYSTEM GROWS, WE HOPE 'IN THE FUTURE
TO RECOVER SOME OF THESE EXPENSES. HE CONTINUED THAT PRESENTLY WATER
LINES GO BY APPROXIMATELY 800 HOMES AND U.D.U. IS PRESENTLY SERVICING
ONE-HALF THAT AMOUNT. HE STATED THAT IF YOU SERVE POTABLE WATER,
THE NUMBER OF WATER USERS SHOULD DOUBLE.
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT QUESTIONED IF THERE MIGHT BE A
POSSIBILITY THAT THE OPERATOR -MANAGER CONTRACT COULD BE WITH THE CIT"
OF VERO BEACH, WHO ALREADY HAVE A DEPARTMENT OF EXPERTS WHO COULD
HANDLE THIS.
DR. SMITH STATED THAT, POSSIBLY, THIS COULD BE WORKED OUT.
COMMISSIONER WODTKE EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE CONDITION
OF THE WATER LINES WHICH DISTRIBUTE WATER PUMPED FROM THE U.D.U.
PLANT TO THE USERS.
DR. SMITH STATED THAT HE HAD EXAMINED THE -DISTRIBUTION
SYSTEM AND FOUND THAT THE PIPES ARE RUSTED AND CORRODED, BUT THEY
ARE'STRUCTURALLY SOUND. THE CITY WATER IS NON -CORROSIVE BUT.THE
RUST IN THE LINES WOULD AFFECT THE WATER QUALITY.
CLAUDE GREEN, DIRECTOR, FARMERS HOME ADMINISTRATION STATED
THAT THERE IS A 10% CONTINGENCY FUND SET UP TO CLEAN THE LINES AND
HE STATED THAT THEIR METHOD OF CLEANING LINES HAS BEEN VERY
SUCCESSFUL.
COMMISSIONER WODTKE ASKED IF_THE COUNTY ARRANGED TO GET
WATER FROM THE CITY OF VERO BEACH TO THE U.D.U. PLANT, WOULD THIS
QUALITY OF WATER MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AGENCIES PRESENT
TODAY.
ALL THE AGENCIES AGREED THAT WATER FROM THE CITY OF VERO
.BEACH WOULD MEET ALL THEIR REQUIREMENTS,
COMMISSIONER WODTKE STATED THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN THE
BUDGET THAT STIPULATES ANY PAYMENT OF.THE BACK LOAN OF $616,000.00.
MR. GREEN STATED THAT WHEN THE TIME_COMESTHAT THE SYSTEM
IS UP TO STANDARD AND THERE IS AN INCREASE IN USERS, THEN THE LOAN
WILL BE REAMORTIZED.
COMMISSIONER WODTKE QUESTIONED IF THE F.H.A. WOULD BE IN A
POSITION TO GUARANTY U.D.U.'s WATER PAYMENT TO THE COUNTY FOR A
PERIOD OF ONE YEAR.
MR. COLLIER STATED THAT HE DID NOT THINK THIS COULD BE
DONE. F.H.A. HAS BUDGETED ENOUGH MONEY TO GUARANTY PAYMENT TO THE
COUNTY FOR THREE MONTHS, IF U.D.U. COULD NOT -MEET THEIR PAYMENT.
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.MR, HERRING INFORMED THE BOARD THAT HE WILL PUT UP THE
MONEY NEEDED TO REPLACE U,D,U,'S SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH A
CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE HAS ORDERED THAT IT MEET STATE POLLUTION STAND-
ARDS- BY THE FIRST WEEK IN APRIL, 1975. MR, HERRING -HAS PLANS TO
BUILD 224 HOMES IN THE GIFFORD AREA THAT WOULD TIE INTO THE NEW
U.D.U. SEWER TREATMENT SYSTEM, CONTINGENT UPON A SOLUTION TO THE
WATER PROBLEM,
MR, GREEN INFORMED THE COMMISSIONERS THAT A DECISION MUST
BE MADE BY APRIL 15TH, 1975 OR F.H.A. WILL HAVE TO RETURN THIS
GRANT AND LOAN MONEY TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,
CHAIRMAN LOY STATED THAT IF THE COUNTY DID GET INVOLVED IN
SUPPLY WATER TO U,D,U „ THERE IS NO WAY THAT IT WOULD NOT COST SOME
MONEY, EVEN IF IT IS A NOMINAL -AMOUNT, AS FOR U,D,U,'S DEBTS, SHE
STATED "THERE IS NO REASON WHY THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS COUNTY SHOULD
PAY -ANY DEBT FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT WORKING,"
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT STATED THAT WE ALL KNOW IF THE COUNTY
GETS INVOLVED INSUPPLYING WATER TO U.D.U. THAT IT WILL BECOME A
TREMENDOUS MORAL OBLIGATION TO INDIAN RIVER COUNTY TO SEE THAT THEY
HAVE GOOD WATER IN THE GIFFORD AREA, HE STATED THAT HE WOULD BE IN
FAVOR OF ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF VERO BEACH TO
SUPPLY U.D.U. WITH WHOLESALE WATER BUT HE'DID NOT AGREE WITH THE
COUNTY ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WITH F.H.A. AS OPERATOR -MANAGER OF
U,D,U „ BUT WOULD ATTEMPT TO COME UP WITH A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY
OF VERO BEACH AS THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE,
ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS AGREED WITH COMMISSIONER SIEBERT'S
STATEMENT,
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER SCHMUCKER, SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT, THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED NEGOTIATING
WITH THE CITY OF VERO BEACH RELATIVE TO THE SUPPLYING OF WATER TO
URBAN DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES, INC, AND AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY,
COUNTY CONSULTING ENGINEERS AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO WORK WITH,
THE CITY OF VERO BEACH CITY MANAGER AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY UTILITIES'
DEPARTMENT,
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THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, dN MOTION MADE, SEC-
ONDED AND CARRIED, THE BOARD ADJOURNED AT 12:30 O'CLOCK P.M.
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