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THURSDAY, JANUARY 29., 1976
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA'
MET IN SPECIAL SESSION AT THE COURTHOUSE, VERO BEACH, FLORIDA ON THURSDAY,
JANUARY 29, 1976 AT 7:30 O'CLOCK P.M. PRESENT DERE WILLARD W. SIEBERT, JR„
CHAIRMAN; WILLIAM C. WODTKE, JR., VICE CHAIRMAN; ALMA LEE Loy; AND EDWIN S. �
SCHMUCKER. ABSENT WAS EDWARD J. 1ASSEY. ALSO PRESENT WERE JACK G. JENNINGS,
COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR; VAL BRENNAN, PLANNING DIRECTOR; AND VIRGINIA HARGREAVES,
.DEPUTY CLERK. PAUL D. BURCH, ATTORNEY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
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WAS ABSENT DUE TO ILLNESS AND GEORGE G. COLLINS, JR., ATTORNEY, SAT IN FOR
HIM.
MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE,.RALPH LUNDY, JERRY
CUMMINGS, HAROLD McKINNEY AND JOE IDLETTE, 4ERE.ALSO PRESENT.
THE CHAIRMAN CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER.
THE HOUR OF 7:30 O'CLOCK P-1. HAVING PASSED, THE DEPUTY CLERK
READ THE FOLLOWING iJOTICE WITH PROOF OF PUBLICATION ATTACHED, TO-1,lIT
VERO BEACH PRESS -JOURNAL
Published Weekly
Vero Beach, Indian River County, Florida
COUNTY OF- INDIAN. RIVER:
STATE OF FLORIDA
Before the undersigned authority personally appeared J. J. Schumann, Jr, who on oath
says that he is Business Manager of the Vero Beach Press -Journal, a weekly newspaper published
at Vero Beach
in Indian River County, Florida; that the attached copy of advertisement, being
the matter of
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fished in said newspaper in the issues of - ug e "+u
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Affiant further says that the said Vero Beach Press -Journal Is a newspaper published at
Vero Beach, in said Indian River County, and that the said newspaper has heretofore
been continuously published in said Indian River County, Florida, weekly and has been entered
as second class mail matter at the post office in Vero Beach, in said Indian River County, Florida
for a period of one year next preceeding the first publication of the attached copy of adver-
tisement; and affiant further says that he has neither paid nor promised any person, firm or
corporation any discount, rebate, commission or refund for the purpose of securing this adver-
tisement for publication in the said newspaper.
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Swom to and subscribed before me this �` of �'t-' A p 9A,
(Business Manager)
WAL) 70 k of tFy Circuit Court, Indian River County, Florida)
NOTICE OF
'PUBLIC NEARING
Notice is hereby given the
County Commission of Indian
River County, Florida, will hold a
Public huaring In the Commission
Room, Indian River County
Courthouse, 2145 lath Avenue, on
January 29, 1976, at 7:30 P.M. to
consider:
Introduction of Community
Development Block Grant
Program and provide area
residents the following:
1. Adequate information
concerning the amount of
funds available for property
development and housing
activities, the range of • ac-
tivitles that may be un.
dertaken and other Important
Program requirements.
2. Adequate opportunities to
parttctpate in development of
Appiicatlon.
Interestetl persons may appear
at thts hea�;ng and be hears with
respect to Property Community
Black Grant Development
Program.'
Indian River County
8y: W. W. Siebert Jr.
Chairman
Date: January 7, 1976
t Approved for public hearing
i Board of County Commissioners,
Indian River County, Florida.
t Date: January 7, 1976
By:-s•Jack G. Jennings
January Il, 1976
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CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ASKED THE PLANNING DIRECTOR TO OUTLINE- BRIEFLY
THE APPLICATION WE INTEND TO MAKE FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.
MR. BRENNAN INFORMED THOSE PRESENT THAT THE PRE—APPLICATION IN
THE AMOUNT OF $400,000 HAS BEEN SENT TO THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA 'EGIONAL
PLANNING COUNCIL AND TO THE DIVISION OF PLANNING, STATE OF FLORIDA, FOR RE—
VIEW AS REQUIRED BY LAW, AND THEY WILL FORWARD THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO
DIRECTLY AS THE DEADLINE IS FEBRUARY 13TH. HE NOTED THAT LAST YEAR WE ADpLIED
FOR A GRANT OF $360,000 AND IT WAS APPROVED FOR $300,000.
MR. BRENNAN THEN REVIEWED THE APPLICATION FORM .AND THE FIGURES
INVOLVED IN DETAIL AND EXPLAINED THAT THE ACTIVITIES INVOLVED ARE THE SAME
ACTIVITIES THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE FIRST APPLICATION, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES
THE OSLO ROAD AREA THIS YEAR IN ADDITION'TO THE 14ABASSO AND GIFFORD AREAS. �
HE POINTED OUT THAT THE AMOUNTS SET UP FOR ADMINISTRATION, PLANNING AND MAN—
AGEMENT HAVE ALL BEEN REDUCED THIS YEAR ON THE BASIS THAT WE HAVE GAINED SOME
EXPERIENCE AND WILL.BE ABLE TO DO A BETTER JOB,
MR. BRENNAN NOTED THAT THE CONSULTANT HAS NOT BEEN HERE, BUT HAS
BEEN CONTACTED BY TELEPHONE AND CORRESPONDENCE 'WHICH SHOULD HELD KEEP THE
BILL TO A MINIMUM. HE CONTINUED THAT THE STATEMENT OF NEEDS IS THE SAME
AS THAT FOR THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM, BUT THE SHORT TERM OBJECTIVES 4AVE C'HANGED i
SOMEWHAT BASED ON WHAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED DURING THIS LAST YEAR. HE STATED.
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THAT MAPS ARE INCLUDED SHOWING THE GENERAL AREAS !WHERE IMPROVEMENTS ARE TO 1
BE MADE, BUT NO SPECIFICS ARE STATED AS THE .ADVISORY COMMITTEE DECIDES WHERE
IMPROVEMENTS ARE MOST NEEDED AND WILL MAKE SPECIFIC DETERMINATIONS AFTER '.lE
SEE HOW MUCH MONEY.WE HAVE TO WORK.WITH.
CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ASKED IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD ANY nUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER SCHMUCKER SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THE
THINGS HE AND THE ADMINISTRATOR HAD LEARNED FROM THEIR TRIP TO JACKSONVILLE.
HE STATED THAT THEY HAD SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED THE $400,1000 REQUEST AND TRIED
TO SELL H..U.D. ON THE OPERATION WE HAVE DONE SO FAR. HE THEN EXPLAINED THAT
THEY HAVE A POINT SYSTEM AND MORE POINTS ARE GIVEN FOR IMPROVING HOMES AND
RESIDENCES THAN ARE GIVEN` FOR STREET IMPROVEMENT. HE STATED, HOWEVER, THAT HE
AND ADMINISTRATOR .KENNINGS FEEL THAT STREETS AND DRAINAGE OF THE ROADS ARE
THE PRIMARY NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT IN THIS APPLICATION ARE TRYING TO TURN
A LITTLE MORE ATTENTION TO HOME IMPROVEMENTS. HE CONTINUED THAT HE FELT THE
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HOME IMPROVEMENT AREA WOULD PRESENT A CONTROL PROBLEM, AND IT WOULD BE
NECESSARY TO HAVE A COMMITTEE AND, IN ADDITION, HAVE IT ALL REVIEWED BY THE
COMMISSIONERS IN ORDER TO KEEP A TIGHT CONTROL TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE
MONEY WILL BE GOING, HE STATED THAT HE FELT ADMINISTRATOR JENNINGS HAD DONE
A VERY GOOD JOB ON THE LIST OF OBJECTIVES SET UP LAST YEAR,
ADMINISTRATOR JENNINGS INFORMED THE BOARD THAT WE WERE ONE OF THE
TWO COUNTIES RECEIVING THE LARGEST AMOUNTS OF MONEY LAST YEAR, AND IT IS
POSSIBLE WE MAY NOT GET AS MUCH THIS YEAR. HE CONTINUED THAT THE PROARAM
HAS BEEN EXPANDED INTO POSSIBLY PURCHASING SOME RECREATION PROPERTY, WHICH
WAS NOT INCLUDED LAST YEAR, AND WE WILL ALSO TEAR DOWN SOME OLD, UNIN4ARITED
STRUCTURES THAT CANNOT BE REHABILITATED. HE NOTED THAT CHANGES CAN BE MADE
IN CERTAIN CATEGORIES,.BUT WE ARE GEARING THIS APPLICATION TO GET THE MOST
MONEY WE CAN GET AND CAN WORRY ABOUT -THE DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM AFTERWARDS,
THE ADMINISTRATOR EXPLAINED THAT WE WILL TRY TO ACCOMPLISH AS
MUCH AS WE CAN IN THE NEXT 39 DAYS SO WE CAN GET AS MANY POINTS AS POSSIBLE
FOR WHAT HAS BEEN DONE WITH THIS YEAR'S MONEY AS YOU ARE ACTUALLY COMPETING
AGAINST OTHER AREAS THAT ARE ALSO GOING AFTER THIS MONEY,
CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ASKED IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY
COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK,
RALPH LUNDY OF 4520 39TH AVE., GIFFORD, TOOK THE FLOOR AND SAID
HE WOULD LIKE TO STATE, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PRESS, THAT THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY ASKED FOR FOR HOUSE IMPROVEMENTS WILL NOT ALL BE SPENT FOR DEMOLISHING
HOUSES. IN THE FIRST PLACE, THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY HOUSES TO DEMOLISH, AND
SOME MONEY WILL UNDOUBTEDLY BE USED FOR ADDITIONS TO HOUSING OR RENOVATING
HOUSING IN HARDSHIP CASES,
SIR. BRENNAN CONFIRMED THIS STATEMENT AND NOTED THAT SOME OF THE
MONEY CAN BE SHIFTED AROUND AS WE ARE NOT "LOCKED -IN,"
.JERRY CUMMINGS OF WABASSO-STATED THAT HE WISHED TO MAKE IT CLEAR
THAT THE MONEY WILL NOT BE USED FOR IMPROVING HOUSING IF THE OWNER IS NOT
LIVING IN THE HOUSE NOR WILL IT APPLY WHERE A HOUSE IS BEING RENTED.
J. BLAYNE JENNINGS, ATTORNEY, APPEARED AND DISCUSSED THE POINT
SYSTEM. HE QUESTIONED WHETHER H.U.D. WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE AMOUNT
OF TIME THAT HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO DO THIS WORK AS THERE HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN .
THAT MUCH TIME AND ALSO WHETHER THE APPLICATION WOULD BE JEOPARDIZED BECAUSE
THE NEEDS IN GIFFORD ARE NOT NECESSARILY FOR HOUSING.
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COMMISSIONER SCHMUCKER ANSWERED THAT IT WAS HIS FEELING THAT THE
PEOPLE IN .JACKSONVILLE ARE PLEASED WITH THE PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE AND NOTED
' THAT EVERYBODY IN THE PROGRAM IS AT THE SAME DISADVANTAGE AS FAR.AS THE TIME
ELEMENT GOES. HE FURTHER STATED THAT HE DOES NOT FEEL WE ARE JEOPARDIZIN9
ANYTHING BY CONCENTRATING ON ROADS INSTEAD OF HOUSING, ALTHOUGH THERE IS CER-
TAIN CRITERIA FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POINTS, AND CONTINUED THAT WE HAVE
GEARED OUR REQUEST TO TRY TO GET OUR BEST ADVANTAGE,
CHAIRMAN SIEBERT STATED THAT HE PERSONALLY FEELS THIS COUNTY HAS
ACCOMPLISHED QUITE A BIT AND THAT ANY SUCCESS WE HAVE IS LARGELY DUE TO THE
CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHO HAVE SPENT SO MUCH OF THEIR TIME ON THIS. HE
FURTHER SAID HE WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE IN THE TARGET AREAS TO GET ACQUAINTED
WITH THE COMMITTEE AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE,
VAL BRENNAN SAID HE DID GET THE FEELING FROM H.U.D. IN .JACKSONVILLE
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THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE HOUSING YOU NEED TO IMPROVE
THE STREET CONDITIONS.
RALPH LUNDY TOOK THE FLOOR AND STATED THAT HE FELT THE COUNTY AD-
MINISTRATOR AND PLANNER BOTH ARE DOING A FINE JOB IN PREPARING AND WORKING
WITH•THIS PROGRAM, AND HE FELT IT SHOULD BE PUT ON RECORD HOW WELL THEY HAVE
WORKED WITH THE COMMISSIONERS IN HELPING ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL.
SIR. BRENNAN STATED THAT HE AND MR. .JENNINGS APPRECIATED THE COM-
PLIMENT BUT BOTH FELT THAT IT IS THESE GENTLEMEN ON THE COMMITTEE WHO SERVE
WITHOUT PAY AND GIVE OF THEIR TIME WHO DESERVE THE CREDIT, HE ALSO EMPHA-
SIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CITIZENS IN THE TARGET AREAS KEEPING THE bMINIS-
TRATOR AND HIMSELF AND THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE APPRISED OF THEIR FEELINGS BE- 1
CAUSE THAT IS HOW WE WILL SUCCEED,
COMMISSIONER WODTKE INFORMED THE BOARD THAT HE HAD A MEMO FROM
H.U.D. WITH A BREAKDOWN OF THE 1975 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK:GRANT FIGURES
FOR FLORIDA WHICH SHOWED THAT THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE OF'THE MONEY AND THE TOP.
PRIORITY WAS FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS; AFTER THAT CAME HOUSING,, RECREATION,
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AND ADMINISTRATION. HE ALSO NOTED THAT MOST APPLICATIONS APPROVED LAST YEAR
SPECIFIED 6% FOR ADMINISTRATION WHILE WE HAVE ONLY SPECIFIED Zmq, WHICH HE
FELT STRONGLY EMPHASIZES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PUT THE MONEY IN THE PROGRAM
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AND NOT IN ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS,
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CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ANNOUNCED THERE IS ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING IN
REGARD.TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT APPLICATION SCHEDULED FOR
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 4TH AT 5:01 O'CLOCK P,M.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, ON MOTION MADE, SECONDED AND
CARRIED, THE BOARD ADJOURNED AT 8:20 O'CLOCK P.M.
ATTEST:
CLERK/'CHAIRMAN
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