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Home My WebLink About4/28/1976s WEDNESDAY, APRIL 28, 1976 THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA, MET IN SPECIAL SESSION AT THE COURTHOUSE, VERO BEACH, FLORIDA, ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 28, 1976, AT 7:00 O'CLOCK P.M. PRESENT WERE WILLARD W. SIEBERT, JR., CHAIRMAN; WIL'.IAM C. WODTKE, JR., VICE-CHAIRMAN; ALMA LEE LOY AND EDWIN S. SCHMUCKER, ABSENT WAS EDWARD J. MASSEY. ALSO PRESENT WERE JACK G. JENNINGS, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR; GEORGE G. COLLINS, JR.,, ATTORNEY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS; AND VIRGINIA HARGREAVES, DEPUTY CLERK. THE CHAIRMAN CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER, CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ANNOUNCED THAT THE MATTER OF THE TRANSFER OF THE ASSIGNMENT OF FRANCHISE FROM SOUTHERN GULF UTILITIES, INC., TO TREASURE COAST UTILITIES, INC., AND THE RATE INCREASE REQUESTED BY TREASURE COAST UTILITIES, INC., CONTINUED FROM THE MEETING OF APRIL 20TH, WOULD BE DIS- CUSSED AT THIS TIME. THE CHAIRMAN THEN ASKED GEORGE MCKENNA, ASSISTANT COUNTY AD- MINISTRATOR, TO EXPLAIN THE STAFF'S ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN REGARD J TO THE PROPOSED RATE INCREASE FIGURES REQUESTED BY TREASURE COAST. MR. MCKENNA STATED THAT THEY HAD PREPARED A CHART COMPARING THE PRESENT FRANCHISE RATES, THOSE PROPOSED BY TREASURE COAST UTILITIES, 4 AND THOSE RECOMMENDED BY THE STAFF, AS FOLLOWS: APR 281976 Single Family Dwelling One bathroom $3.50 flat rate Each additional bath 0.50 flat rate RECOMMENDED UTILITY RATES FOR TREASURE COAST UTILITIES WATER Y Proposed by Treasure Coast Utilities Indian River County Recommendation 2,000 gal. (min.) .$5.00 4,500 gal. (min.) $6.00 ALL OVER 2,000 gal. 1.75/1,000 ALL OVER 4,500 gal. 1.08/1,000 gal. - gal. (NOTE) Customer using 5,000 gallons (NOTE) Customer using 5,000 gal.'water of water would pay $6.54 per month.. would pay $10.25 per month. SEWER - Up to 5,000 gallons - 1251% water rate 5,000 to 9,000 gal. - above + 100'/ of water charge over 5,000 gal., etc. (NOTE) Customer using 5,000 gal. water would pay $12.81 for sewer per month. Single Family Dwelling One bathroom $7.00 flat rate Each additional bath 1.00 flat rate 4 *Sane rates as for Ixora Utilities except for sewer additional bath- room charge. 1 r, 00 :T gam_ Present Franchise Rates 3,000 gal. (min.) $2.97 ' Next 6,000 gal. 0.54/1,000 gal. u 6,000 0.47/1,000 gal. I " 25,000 0.405/1,000 gal. 35,000 0.308/1,000 gal. a 75,000 0.27/1,000 gal. Single Family Dwelling One bathroom $3.50 flat rate Each additional bath 0.50 flat rate RECOMMENDED UTILITY RATES FOR TREASURE COAST UTILITIES WATER Y Proposed by Treasure Coast Utilities Indian River County Recommendation 2,000 gal. (min.) .$5.00 4,500 gal. (min.) $6.00 ALL OVER 2,000 gal. 1.75/1,000 ALL OVER 4,500 gal. 1.08/1,000 gal. - gal. (NOTE) Customer using 5,000 gallons (NOTE) Customer using 5,000 gal.'water of water would pay $6.54 per month.. would pay $10.25 per month. SEWER - Up to 5,000 gallons - 1251% water rate 5,000 to 9,000 gal. - above + 100'/ of water charge over 5,000 gal., etc. (NOTE) Customer using 5,000 gal. water would pay $12.81 for sewer per month. Single Family Dwelling One bathroom $7.00 flat rate Each additional bath 1.00 flat rate 4 *Sane rates as for Ixora Utilities except for sewer additional bath- room charge. 1 r, M. 19 MR. MCKENNA NOTED THAT FOR THE PAST 16 YEARS SOUTHERN GULF UTILITIES HAS CHOSEN TO BILL LOWER RATES THAN THOSE ALLOWED BY THE FRAN- CHISE, WHICH, OF COURSE, PROVIDED THEM A LOWER INCOME. HE CONTINUED THAT THE STAFF HAD REVIEWED COMPARABLE RATES OF UTILITIES THAT ARE OFFERING GENERAL AREA SERVICE, SUCH AS MID -FLORIDA UTILITIES AND IXORA UTILITIES, AND DID NOT FEEL THE COUNTY WOULD BE JUSTIFIED IN APPROVING RATES CONSID- ERABLY IN EXCESS OF CURRENT RATES FOR rOMPANIES_ALREADY IN THE BUSINESS. THE RATES THEY ARE RECOMMENDING ARE ALMOST EXACTLY DOUBLE THE PRESENT RATES BEING CHARGED BY SOUTHERN GULF UTILITIES. ! 1 MR. MCKENNA THEN EXPLAINED THAT THEY HAD BASED THE PROJECTED INCOME TO BE OBTAINED FROM THEIR RECOMMENDED RATES ON THE SOUTHERN GULF BILLINGS STATEMENT FOR FEBRUARY, 1976, THE LOWEST OF THE THREE MONTHS OF FEBRUARY, MARCH AND APRIL, 1976, WHICH THEY HAD AVERAGED TO SHOW A PRO- JECTED INCOME BASED ON THE PRESENT RATES. ACCORDING TO THEIR COMPUTATIONS, THEIR RECOMMENDED RATES WOULD INCREASE THE WATER INCOME 1.97 TIMES AND THE SEWER INCOME 2.00 TIMES. A QUESTION AROSE AS TO WHETHER EVERYTHING OVER 4,500 GALLONS WOULD BE BILLED PER 1,000 GALLONS OR PROPORTIONS THEREOF. LOWELL LOHMAN, PRESIDENT OF TREASURE COAST UTILITIES, STATED THAT FOR ANYTHING OVER 500 GALLONS, YOU GO TO THE NEXT FULL THOUSAND, BUT FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN 500 GALLONS, YOU DROP BACK, AND THIS AVERAGES OUT OVER A YEAR. t DISCUSSION FOLLOWED AS TO WHETHER THE MONTHS OF FEBRUARY, MARCH AND APRIL WOULD REPRESENT A TYPICAL AVERAGE, OR WHETHER OTHER MONTHS MIGHT REFLECT A SLIGHTLY HIGHER INCOME. COMMISSIONER MASSEY ENTERED THE MEETING AT 7:30 O'CLOCK P.M. CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ASKED MR. LOHMAN IF HE WISHED TO COMMENT ON THE STAFF ®S SUGGESTED RATES, MR. LOHMAN STATED THAT HE DID NOT FEEL IT IS FAIR TO COMPARE THEIR REQUEST FOR A RATE INCREASE TO THE IXORA PARK UTILITIES RATE IN- CREASE AS THEIR SITUATION IS NOT AT ALL THE SAME, THEY ARE A PRIVATE UTILITY COMPANY AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DEVELOPING OF WHISPERING PALMS AND DIXIE GARDENS AND, CONSEQUENTLY, HAVE RECEIVED NO INCOME FROM t. 3 4 • 4 APR 2 8 1976 i THESE SUBDIVISIONS. HE CONTINUED THAT HE FELT THE FIGURES PRESENTED IN THEIR PRO -FORMA STATEMENT ARE IN NO WAY OUT OF LINE AND THAT THE STATE- MENTS PRESENTED BY SOUTHERN GULF UTILITIES ARE ACCURATE, AND $29,000 TO $30,000 A YEAR IS NEEDED TO OPERATE THE SYSTEM. HE NOTED ALSO THAT AS THE COST OF ELECTRICITY RISES, THEY CANNOT ADD ON A SURCHARGE AT RANDOM AND SO THEIR EXPENSES WILL BE CONTINUALLY BE ON THE RISE, AND AS POINTED OUT BEFORE, THE EXISTING SYSTEM IS UNr7:R CITATION BY THE D.E.R. MR. LOHMAN INFORMED THE BOARD THAT WITH THE FIGURES SUGGESTED BY THE ADMINISTRATOR`S STAFF, HE COULD SEE NO WAY TO MEET EXPENSES THIS YEAR OR EVEN BREAK EVEN NO MATTER HOW EFFICIENTLY THEY OPERATED THE SYSTEM, AND WITH THIS RATE OF RETURN, HE COULD NOT SEE ANY WAY TO BORROW THE MONEY TO PUT IN A NEW PLANT. HE STATED THAT THEY HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE OTHER THAN TO GO THROUGH WITH THE TRANSFER OF THE FRANCHISE, BUT IF THE RECOMMENDED RATES ARE APPROVED, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO ASK .FOR ANOTHER RAISE. COMMISSIONER.MASSEY ASKED IF MR. LOHMAN WAS OWNER OF THE OLD SANS SOUCI MOBILE HOME PARK, NOW CALLED THE LAMPLIGHTER, AS HE HAD IN- SPECTED IT RECENTLY, AND THERE DO NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN MANY IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO ITS SEWAGE SYSTEM, MR. LOHMAN ANSWERED THAT THE SANS SOUCI MOBILE HOME PARK HAD AN EXISTING 5,000 GALLON CAPACITY SEWAGE TREATMENT SYSTEM. HE CONTINUED THAT A 15,000 GALLON TREATMENT PLANT HAS BEEN MOVED UP THERE AND IS SITTI.NG THERE NOW. THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR SIX MONTHS, BUT HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE SO FAR TO OBTAIN THE PERMITS NECESSARY TO INSTALL IT. COMMISSIONER MASSEY ASKED WHEN TREASURE COAST GETS A RATE IN- CREASE GRANTED, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO IMPROVE THE PLANT AT WHISPERING PALMS AND DIXIE GARDENS? MR. LOHMAN STATED THAT THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO POST A PERFORM- ANCE BOND THAT THE SYSTEM WILL BE INSTALLED AND THE OPERATION UP -GRADED. COMMISSIONER WODTKE QUESTIONED THE AMOUNT SET OUT ON THE PRO - FORMA STATEMENT FOR TAXES AND LICENSES AS IT IS CONSIDERABLY LARGER THAN THE AMOUNT SET OUT BY IXORA UTILITIES, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE MORE CUSTOMERS. MR. LOHMAN EXPLAINED THAT THEIR TREATMENT PLANT SITE IS A LITTLE MORE THAN TWO ACRES, WHICH HE FELT WOULD PROVE TO BE LARGER THAN THAT OF IXORA UTILITIES, AND THE CHAIRMAN AGREED THAT IT WAS. 4 !p APR 2 8 1976 "�Ao 31 A DISCUSSION CONTINUED IN REGARD TO VARIOUS FIGURES PRESENTED IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ASKED IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HAD ANY PER— TINENT COMMENTS THAT HAD NOT BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY, MATTHEW GOOD, SR., INFORMED THE BOARD THAT FOR IOD GALLONS OVER THE MINIMUM, THEY ARE BEING BILLED THE HIGHER RATE FOR THE NEXT 1,000 GALLONS, CHAIRMAN SIEBERT READ TO THOSE PRESENT A LETTER WRITTEN BY MATTHEW GOOD, SR., AS FOLLOWS: M.A. GOOD 733 5th St.. S. W, VERO BEACH, FLORIDA. 32960. April 2I,1976 Dear Commiesioneres The evening of April 20,1976 at the public hearing of the Treasure Coast Utilities request for rate and hook-up charges. No property owner put fourth any kind of a rate increase which would be fair to us property owners. I would like to offer a rate increase table that I feel would be fair to us, and to the new Company. Present 4000 Gallons (Minimum) should be kept at that rate. Proposed Rates and Hook-up Chargess Monthly Water Quantity Ratess First 4000 Gallons(Minimum) ............... $4.50 Each Additional I,000 ..................... I.00 Water Hook-up and Connection Charge .......350.00 (New homes only). Monthly Sewer Service Ratess Flat rate basis of $4.50 to $5.00 The sewer rate should not be put on a per gallon basis, 30% or more of the water used is used on lawns, and since the sewers have no meters they should be basised on a flat rate. Also a great many of the figures that where given by both Southern Gulf and Treasure Coast Utilties where wrong. Treasure Coast was wrong for using Southern Gulf figures. Also the statement was made by the man named Steve, that Treasure Coast Utilities was commited to buy the Franchise if they received the increase or not. Mr. Lohman, when asked if he would buy the Franchise if no rate increase was granted, answered he would not. Which of these two men stated the truth? Sincerely yours, 19 Matthew A. Good, Sr. a 5 1976 �" AN INTERESTED CITIZEN NOTED THAT MANY IN THESE SUBDIVISIONS ARE BOUND BY THEIR ORIGINAL DEED TO THIS SYSTEM, CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ASKED MR. LOHMAN IF HIS COMPANY WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTER INTO OUR STANDARD FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WHICH REQUIRES THAT, AT SUCH TIME AS THE COUNTY PROVIDES THE SERVICE, THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM WOULD BE TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY AT NO COST. MR. LOHMAN STATED THAT THEY WOULD. COMMISSIONER WODTKE NOTED THAT HE DID NOT FEEL THAT MR. LOHMAN IS SATISFIED WITH THE RATES WE ARE PROPOSING, AND HE FELT POSSIBLY IN THAT CASE WE SHOULD NOT TRANSFER THE FRANCHISE. HE CONTINUED THAT A TRANSFER CANNOT BE DENIED WITHOUT CAUSE, BUT HE FELT THAT IF MR. LOHMAN CAN'T GET THE NECESSARY FUNDS TO BRING THE SYSTEM UP TO THE REQUIRED STANDARDS, THAT F b IS A JUSTIFIABLE REASON TO DENY TRANSFER. ti COMMISSIONER SCHMUCKER STATED THAT SOUTHERN GULF UTILITIES HAS ARS DONE NOTHING TO IMPROVE THE SYSTEM OVER ALL THESE Y E e AND HE FELT IT WOULD BE BETTER IF TREASURE COAST UTILITIES TOOK OVER. CHAIRMAN SIEBERT STATED THAT HE HAS KNOWN MR. LOHMAN FOR A LONG TIME AND FELT CERTAIN THAT, WITH HIS REPUTATION IN THIS COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE BEING SERVICED WOULD BE MUCH MORE SATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE THEY RECEIVE. HE ALSO AGREED THAT IT MAY NOT BE FAIR TO COMPARE THIS SITUA— TION TO THAT OF IXORA UTILITIES. HE CONTINUED THAT HE FELT SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE MUST BE REACHED BETWEEN THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDED FIGURES AND THE INCREASE REQUESTED BY TREASURE COAST AND A TIME SET TO REVIEW THE FIGURES AND EITHER REDUCE OR INCREASE THE RATES ACCORDINGLY. LOWELL LOHMAN NOTED THAT WHEN YOU ASK FOR AN INCREASE, YOU EXPECT TO MAKE SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE, BUT HE KNOWS HIS FIGURES CANNOT BE REDUCED BY ANY GREAT PERCENTAGE AND WITH THE STAFF'S PROPOSED FIGURES, THERE WILL BE A LOSS. HE STATED THAT THE ONLY APPEALING FEATURE OF THIS i 4 FRANCHISE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT IT CAN BE EXPANDED, ATTORNEY COLLINS INFORMED THE BOARD THAT HISTORICALLY UTILITY COMPANIES IN THE 20'S AND 30'S OBTAINED FRANCHISES OVER LARGE AREAS, REALIZING THEY WOULD HAVE A VALUE AT A LATER DATE. HE NOTED THAT..MANY COUNTIES ARE NOW HAVING TO PAY LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY FOR THESE FRANCHISES • AND SUGGESTED THE BOARD ASK MR. LOHMAN IF HE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HAVING THE FRANCHISE ASSIGNED ON A NON—EXCLUSIVE BASIS WHICH WOULD CLEAR UP ANY QUESTION IN THE FUTURE ABOUT THE COUNTY PAYING FOR THE FRANCHISE. 6 APR 2 81976 2.5 31 AT THIS POINT, CHAIRMAN SIEBERT SUGGESTED CHANGING THE MONTHLY MINIMUM FOR WATER USAGE TO 3,500 GALLONS AT A RATE OF $5.00 AND CHARGING $1.25 PER 1,000 GALLONS OR ANY PART THEREOF FOR EVERYTHING OVER 3,500 GALLONS. (THIS WOULD RESULT IN A MONTHLY CHARGE OF $7.50 FOR SOMEONE USING 5,000 GALLONS.) HE RECOMMENDED ACCEPTING THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF A $7.00 FLAT RATE FOR SEWER, PLUS $1.00 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL BATHROOM, AND INCLUDING AN AGREEMENT THAT TREASURE CAST UTILITIES WOULD ACCEPT THE STANDARD FRANCHISE AGREEMENT TO TURN OVER THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM WHENEVER THE COUNTY PROVIDED THE SERVICE. THIRDLY, HE SUGGESTED THAT THE RATES BE REVIEWED WITH A PERIOD OF A YEAR, AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSION, CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ASKED MR. LOHMAN IF HE WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE THE EXTENSIONS USING THE RATES JUST SUG— GESTED AND SUBMIT THEM IN TIME TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 5, 1976. MR. LOHMAN AGREED. MR. WERZYN OF SOUTHERN GULF UTILITIES ASKED IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR THE BOARD TO TAKE ACTION AT THIS MEETING IN REGARD TO THE TRANSFER OF THE FRANCHISE. THE CHAIRMAN SAID HE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACT ON THE TRANSFER, BUT HE FELT THE TRANSFER AND THE RATE INCREASE WERE RELATED AND SHOULD BE ACTED ON AT THE NEXT MEETING. THERE WAS NO MOTION MADE. ON MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MASSEY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WODTKE, THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF THE TRANSFER OF ASSIGNMENT FROM SOUTHERN GULF UTILITIES, INC., TO TREASURE COAST UTILITIES, INC., AND A RATE INCREASE FOR TREASURE COAST UTILITIES, INC., TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 5, 1976. d THE HOUR OF 7:30 O'CLOCK P.M. HAVING PASSED, THE DEPUTY CLERK READ THE FOLLOWING NOTICE WITH PROOF OF PUBLICATION ATTACHED, TO—WIT: 7 R 2 8 1916'.R BODS; 251 Pubs315 s SPR 281976 VERO BEACH PRESS -JOURNAL 1976 Published Weekly Vero Beach, Indian River County, Florida tt ��h'.:;;�;` '•�Y ` c COUNTY OF INDIAN RIVER - STATE OF FLORIDA Before the undersigned authority personally appeared J. J. Schumann, Jr. who on oath the Vero Beach Press -Journal, a weekly newspaper published says that he is Business Manager of at Vero Beach in Indian River County, Florida; that the attached copy of advertisement, being NOTICEOF PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN a iC/n�Cn O that the County Commission of Indian River County, Florida, will hold. a public hearing in the Commission Room, Indian River - ��— in the matter of _,S=��r 2''� "� Qu C County Courthouse, 2145 14th Avenue, on April 28, 1976, at 7:30 P.M. to consider: Revisions, changes or amend- ments to the Application for Community Development Block in the Court, was pub- Grant Program. Interested persons may appear at this hearing and be heard with �� /9 Iished in said newspaper in the issues of- respect to Property Community em Grant Development Program Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County, Affiant further says that the said Vero Beach Press -Journal is a newspaper published at Vero Beach, in said Indian River County, and that the said newspaper has heretofore Florida By Willard W. Siebert, Jr. Chairman 1974. been continuously published in said Indian River County, Florida, weekly and has been entered office in Vero Beach, in said Indian River County, Florida Apr. 15, 18, 22, 25, as second class mail matter at the post for a period of one year next preceeding the first publication of the attached copy of adver- further says that he has neither paid nor promised any person, firm or tisement; and affiant corporation any discount, rebate, commission or refund for the purpose of securing this adver- tisement for publication in the said newspaper. ,��y� Sworn to and subscribed before me this d of D. 1911r`— (Business Manager) (Clerk a he Circuit Court, Indian River County, Florida) (SEAQ ATTENDING THE PUBLIC HEARING WERE DAVID ELDELL AND JERRY CUMMINGS, MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, VAL BRENNAN, COUNTY PLANNING DIRECTOR, EXPLAINED THAT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM IS EFFECTIVE AS OF .JULY 1, 1976, AND APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION HAS BEEN RECEIVED IN THE AMOUNT t of $150,000,00, THIS IS A 12 MONTH PROGRAM AND AFFECTS THE AREAS OF WABASSO, GIFFORD AND OSLO, THE BUDGER BREAKDOWN HAS CHANGED SOMEWHAT AND THE $150,000 IS BROKEN DOWN INTO SEVEN CATEGORIES, THE CHANGE IS SHOWN ON H.U.D. FORM 7015,5 WHERE THE BUDGET ADDS UP TO $180,000, MR. BRENNAN CONTINUED THAT 75% OF THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM HAS BEEN COMPLETED, BUT WE HAVE NOT SPENT 75% OF THE MONEY. HE NOTED THAT IT LOOKS AS IF THE $44,000 ALLOTTED FOR REHABILITATION AND REMOVAL OF DETERIORATED BUILDINGS WILL NOT SPR 281976 ALL BE EXPENDED BY JULY IST, THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR. THEREFORE, WITH THE ADMINISTRATOR°S CONCURRENCE, HE HAS ADDED $30,000 AS "REPROGRAMMED UNOBLIGATED FUNDS FROM PRIOR PROGRAM YEAR," TO NOTIFY H.U.D. THAT WE HAVE A CARRY-OVER. THESE UNUSED FUNDS MUST BE USED FOR THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH THEY WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED. IF THIS MONEY SHOULD BE EXPENDED BEFORE JULY, WE WILL AMEND THE APPLICATION. MR. BRENNAN NEXT DISCUSSED :HE STATEMENT OF NEEDS AND NOTED THAT A HOUSING SURVEY MUST BE DONE TO DETERMINE THE HOUSING NEEDS, AND THE NUMBER OF HANDICAPPED AND ELEDERLY MUST ALSO BE DETERMINED. HE CONTINUED THAT WHEN WE MADE THIS APPLICATION LAST YEAR, WE DEVELOPED OUR HOUSING NEEDS AS NEEDING REHABILITATION OF HOUSING RATHER THAN NEW HOUSING. SEC- TION 8 HOUSING ASSISTANCE MONEY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN TO THE COUNTY THREE YEARS AGO, BUT WAS ONLY ALLOTTED LAST YEAR IN THE AMOUNT OF $108,000. H.U.D. IS SUPPOSED TO PUT A NOTICE IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER TO LET CONTRAC- TORS KNOW THAT THIS MONEY IS AVAILABLE, AND SINCE WE HAVE STATED WE NEED REHABILITATION, IT WILL BE ADVERTISED FOR CONTRACTORS TO REHABILITATE HOUSES RATHER THAN BUILD LOW COST HOUSING. MR. BRENNAN NOTED THAT UNTIL RECENTLY THERE HAS BEEN NO PARTY INTERESTED IN BUILDING LOW INCOME HOUSING UNDER SECTION S. CHAIRMAN SIEBERT INQUIRED AS TO WHAT WAS CONSIDERED LOW-COST HOUSING, MR, BRENNAN STATED THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL DOLLAR COST OF THE HOUSING. THE GOVERNMENT LOOKS AT THE INCOME OF THE PEOPLE TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD, AND THEN THE GOVERNMENT SUBSI- DIZES THE REMAINDER. IN THIS WAY THE DEVELOPER CAN GET A MORTGAGE. CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ASKED WHAT SECTION S HAS TO DO WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT APPLICATION. . MR. BRENNAN EXPLAINED THAT THESE ARE TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, BUT ONE IS PREDICATED ON THE OTHER AS H.U.D. DETERMINES OUR HOUSING NEEDS BY WHAT WE STATE IN OUR APPLICATION. COMMISSIONER SCHMUCKER NOTED THAT OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM DOES NOT HAVE A SECTION 8 IN IT, AND HIS SUGGESTI:ON-IS TO GET INTO A LIMITED REHABILITATION UNDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM AND NOT GET INVOLVED IN ALL THE CONTRACTURAL OBLIGATIONS AND RED TAPE INVOLVED UNDER SECTION H. 9 APR 2.8 117 6 ..2-5 vn 4.7 11 s ADMINISTRATOR JENNINGS STATED THAT THE APPLICATION UNDER DIS- CUSSION DOES NOT INVOLVE SECTION H, AND IT HAS BEEN THE DECISION TO CON- TINUE ON THE BASIS WE ARE ON. IF WE GO INTO SECTION 8, IT WILL NOT BE UN- TIL NEXT YEAR. IN THE MEANTIME WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET ALL OF THE REHABILITATION AND ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN OUT OF THE MONEY THAT IS ALLOTTED TO US AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. COMMISSIONER WODTKE NOTED THAT SECTION 8 IS NOT SET UP FOR THE COUNTY, BUT FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AND THE COUNTY WILL PROBABLY ONLY HAVE TO CERTIFY THE NEED. MR. BRENNAN POINTED OUT THAT THE TIME ELEMENT IS SUCH THAT ANY CHANGES TO BE MADE IN THIS APPLICATION MUST BE MADE TONIGHT. COMMISSIONER LOY ASKED IF THIS APPLICATION COMES RECOMMENDED BY THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. MR. BRENNAN STATED THAT IT DID AND NOTED THAT THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SENT TO ADLEY ASSOCIATES TO REVIEW. CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ASKED IF ANYONE WISHED TO BE HEARD. FRED CALHOUN OF FORT PIERCE STATED THAT HE OWNED APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES IN GIFFORD WITH HOUSES ON IT THAT COULD STAND IMPROVEMENT AND WONDERED IF HE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE IN THE REHABILITATION CATEGORY. WILLIAM C. MINIS, JR., OF 63RD AVE., WABASSO, APPEARED AND STATED HE WISHED TO KNOW THE STATUS OF LINDSEY ROAD AS THEY HAD HAD A MEETING IN GIFFORD IN REGARD TO THIS ON MONDAY NIGHT. ADMINISTRATOR JENNINGS EXPLAINED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, IT LOOKED AS IF THERE WOULD BE AN OVER- RIDE OF MONEY SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO SPEND THE MONEY BEFORE THE DEADLINE WHEN IT MIGHT BE LOST, HE SUGGESTED TWO POSSIBLE PROJECTS - A BRIDGE OVER THE OUTFALL OF THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT DITCH ON LINDSEY ROAD OR PAVING ANY PORTION OF LINDSEY ROAD THAT GOES INTO THE GIFFORD AREA. THE ADMINISTRATOR REITERATED THAT THESE ARE JUST POSSIBLE PROJECTS THAT COULD BE DONE BEFORE JULY IST IF THERE SHOULD BE ANY SURPLUS MONEY. MR. MINIS NOTED THAT LINDSEY ROAD HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT UP WITH MARL AND IS PRETTY WELL PACKED, BUT THERE ARE ROADS IN GIFFORD THAT ARE SO BAD YOU GET STUCK IN THEM IN WET WEATHER. 10 om5 fui3 i 0 THE ADMINISTRATOR STATED THAT LINDSEY ROAD IS NOT A "MUST" ON THE PRIORITY LIST, BUT WAS MAINLY CONSIDERED BECAUSE IT COULD BE PAVED VERY QUICKLY AND THE TIME ELEMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT. COMMISSIONER WODTKE INFORMED MR, MINIS THAT IN .THIS YEAR'S APPLICATION $80,000 IS COMMITTED TO PUBLIC WORKS (STREET PAVING AND IM- PROVING DIRT ROADS TO MARL ROADS), AND THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WOULD WELCOME INPUT FROM INTERESTED CITIZENS SUCH AS MR. MINIS. ON MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WODTKE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER Loy, THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. ON MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MASSEY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER Loy, THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT APPLI- CATION AS PRESENTED AND RECOMMENDED BY THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEEi CHAIRMAN SIEBERT ANNOUNCED THAT THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS APPLICATION WILL BE HELD AT 5:01 O'CLOCK P.M. WEDNESDAY, MAY 5TH. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, ON MOTION MADE, SECONDED AND CARRIED, THE BOARD ADJOURNED AT 9:45 O'CLOCK P.M. ATTEST: A 11 APR 2 825 R4�t;1319. f V