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October 18, 2005
EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT
The Board of Commissioners of the Emergency Services District met at the County
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Commission Chambers, 1840 25 Street, Vero Beach, Florida, on Tuesday, October 18, 2005.
Present were Chairman Thomas S. Lowther, Vice Chairman Arthur R. Neuberger,
Commissioners Sandra L. Bowden, Wesley S. Davis, and Gary C. Wheeler. Also present were
Joseph A. Baird, County Administrator; William G. Collins, II, County Attorney; Kimberly
Massung, Executive Aide to the Board; and Patricia M. Ridgely, Deputy Clerk.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 10:40 a.m.
14.A.1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – AUGUST 23, 2005
The Chairman asked if there were any corrections or additions to the Minutes of the
Regular Meeting of August 23, 2005. There were none.
ON MOTION by Commissioner Wheeler, SECONDED by Vice
Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously approved the Minutes of
the Meeting of August 23, 2005, as written.
14.A.2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – SEPTEMBER 13, 2005
The Chairman asked if there were any corrections or additions to the Minutes of the
Regular Meeting of September 13, 2005. There were none.
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ON MOTION by Commissioner Neuberger, SECONDED by
Commissioner Wheeler, the Board unanimously approved the Minutes of
the Meeting of September 13, 2005, as written.
At 10:33 a.m. the Chairman called a brief recess for the benefit of the closed captioning
writer. The Chairman reconvened the meeting at 10:40 a.m.
14.A.3. CONSIDERATION OF FINAL FIRE AND EMS
CONSOLIDATION IMPLEMENTATION STUDY REPORT - STAFF TO
INITIATE THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS (MANAGEMENT
ADVISORY GROUP)
MOTION WAS MADE by Vice Chairman Neuberger, SECONDED by
Commissioner Davis, to approve staff’s recommendation.
Caroline Ginn
, 1134 Old Galleon Lane, Vero Beach, was unhappy with the location of
the ad about the workshop for this matter and stated the Board should again publish the agenda
in the newspaper. She asked for clarification on several components of the report including the
meaning of the Fair Labor Standards Act with regard to overtime. She also pressed for answers
concerning the staffing of Stations 6 and 11 (on the beach); reclassifications of paramedic
lieutenants; who will bear the cost for training toward dual certification; and concerns about the
beach stations being used for training. She believed the consolidation plan to be unfair to
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paramedicswas concerned it would downgrade service on the beach, and was still not convinced
it would result in a cost-savings to the County. She also believed the County should return the
paramedics to the hospital for continuum of care for cardiac patients and questioned the
percentages of increase in firefighter salaries.
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Emergency Services Director John King, County Administrator Baird, Assistant County
Administrator Mike Zito, and Donald Long (consultant with Management Advisory Group, Inc.)
responded to Mrs. Ginn’s questions and concerns.
In responding, Assistant County Administrator Mike Zito made the point that the goals
are to unify the two groups and to apply the new regulations fairly. He also stated that by law
the bargaining units would have an opportunity to bargain the impact of the consolidation.
Emergency Services Director John King stated that training would be a big part of what
happens at all stations. He has recommended that employees pay their own training costs but
some of that training would be provided in-house. He also stated that our 2 ALS (advanced life
support) engines would probably be located at Stations 4 and 7 to give coverage where the
greatest numbers of calls occur. He anticipated that we would have more ALS engines as time
goes by. He stressed that all services would be based on teamwork and explained how staffing
of vehicles would occur based on the priority of the incident to which it is responding. He also
explained how backups are handled. Although there will be fewer people, they will be better
trained and there should be no reduction in services. He declared State law requires that only
certified professionals perform certain procedures, and he estimated how long it will take for the
entire department to become dual certified.
Steve Myers
, business representative for the Teamsters (paramedics), inquired as to
changes from the last version of the plan to this version.
Mr. Long
advised the change concerned a reduction in staffing for Stations 6 and 11.
A discussion was launched on the reasons for and effect of staffing one less person,
during which it was pointed out that Stations 6 and 11 (on the beach) have the lowest volume of
calls both in-season and off-season as compared to any other stations. County Administrator
Baird pointed out that there is a third station on the beach as well and that he has observed on
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numerous occasions an ambulance stationed near the 17 Street bridge.
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In response to Mr. Myers’ question about grandfathering current employees, County
Administrator Baird stated that no employee will lose their job because of this consolidation, but
he could not guarantee the same pay or position for every employee. The job description might
change but his understanding is they would be able to keep their standard of living. The
administration will make every effort to make this consolidation work.
Bob Johnson
waspleased the Board approved another station for the south part of the
county and asked for clarification on the timing of rebuilding of Station 4 and the building of
Station 12.
County Administrator Baird advised that old Station 4 would be kept open the entire
time. The new Station 4 will be built right behind the old one. The new Station 12 will be
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located on 5 Street SW somewhere between 43 and 58 Avenues (location to be determined).
He assured Mr. Johnson there would be no interruption in service to the area.
In response to Mr. Johnson’s next questions, Director King explained the procedure for
replacement of a sick employee and the drug-testing program for the District’s employees.
Commissioner Bowden asked to hear from the other gentleman from Management
Advisory Group.
John Fasana
listed his credentials as a retired and former chief in the Fire and EMS
fields in Waco, Los Angeles, Boston, and northern California. He stated he had witnessed a
successful consolidation of Fire and EMS, knows it will work, and predicted it will improve
service levels in both fire and emergency medical services. He believed this to be a good plan
that will make a healthier organization and the citizens of Indian River County would benefit.
The Chairman CALLED THE QUESTION and the motion carried
unanimously. \[The Board 1) approved the Fire and EMS Consolidation
Implementation Study, subject to any negotiations with the unions
required by law; 2) authorized staff to move forward with the
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implementation process described in the memorandum, including the
elimination and creation of new positions as presented in the Study
subject to revision by the County Administrator or his designee; 3)
authorized staff to bargain with the respective unions to the extent
required by law; 4) authorized staff to modify the deployment practices
of the District; 5) authorized staff to begin fire suppression and
emergency medical training activities; and 6) authorized staff to take any
action necessary to complete the consolidation in a timely manner, all as
recommended in the memorandum of October 12, 2005.\]
ALL BACKUP DOCUMENTATION IS ON FILE IN THE
OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD AND
IS HEREBY MADE A PART OF THESE MINUTES
Commissioner Bowden stated she is looking forward to the quality of service going up
and everyone getting along.
There being no further business, on Motion duly made, seconded and carried, the Board
adjourned at 11:25 a.m.
ATTEST:
___________________________________ ____________________________
Jeffrey K. Barton, Clerk Thomas S. Lowther, Chairman
Minutes Approved: _________________________
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