HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/21/2008 (2)SPECIAL CALL MEETING
REQUEST FOR RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF
SEBASTIAN'S STAN MAYFIELD WORKING WATERFRONT
GRANT APPLICATION, AND REQUEST FOR MATCHING
GRANT FUNDS ASSISTANCE
NOVEMBER 21, 2008
1. CALL TO ORDER.........................................................................................1
2. INVOCATION................................................................................................1
3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.......................................................................2
4. COMMISSIONERS ITEMS.........................................................................2
A. COMMISSIONER WESLEY S. DAMS, CHAIRMAN.........................................................2
1. CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST FOR RESOLUTIONINSUPPORT OF THE CITY OF
SEBASTuN'S STANMAYFIELD WORKING WATERFRONT GRANT APPLICATION,
AND REQUEST FOR MATCHING GRANT FUNDS ASSISTANCE......................................2
5. ADJOURNMENT.........................................................................................10
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November 21, 2008
Special Call Meeting
November 21, 2008
SPECIAL CALL MEETING OF THE INDIAN RIVER COUNTY
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County, Florida, held a
Special Call Meeting at the County Commission Chambers, 1801 27th Street, Vero Beach,
Florida, on Friday, November 21, 2008, to discuss a Resolution in support of the City of
Sebastian's Stan Mayfield Working Waterfront Grant Application and a request for matching
Grant funds assistance.
Present were Chairman Wesley S. Davis, Vice Chairman Joseph E. Flescher, and
Commissioners Peter D. O'Bryan, Bob Solari, and Gary C. Wheeler. Also present were County
Administrator Joseph A. Baird, County Attorney William G. Collins II, and Deputy Clerk
Athena Adams.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Davis called the meeting to order at 11:00 a.m.
2. INVOCATION
Chairman Davis delivered the Invocation.
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3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Vice Chairman Flescher led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
4. COMMISSIONERS ITEMS
A. COMMISSIONER WESLEY S. DAVIS. CHAIRMAN
1. CONSIDERATION OF REpUEST FOR RESOL UTION IN SUPPORT OF THE
CITY OF SEBASTIAN'S STANMAYFIELD WORKING WATERFRONT
GRANT APPLICATION. AND REOUEST FOR MATCHING GRANT FUNDS
ASSISTANCE
Chairman Davis introduced Sebastian's City Manager Al Minner, who had
requested the Special Meeting.
Al Minner, City Manager, City of Sebastian, explained that the reason for the
City's request is to seek the County's partnership and also to obtain additional funding for
Sebastian's application to the Stan Mayfield Working Waterfront Grant Program. Through a
PowerPoint presentation he explained the purpose of the Stan Mayfield Program, which is to
rejuvenate and further the protection and continuation of Working Waterfronts in the State of
Florida. He pointed out that the State had allocated $7 to $7.5 million in the subject Grant, and
defined the two portions (A&B) of the Grant, as broken down by the State, which basically
stipulated the land use for each parcel or parcels of land.
Mr. Minner apprised the Board of the Sebastian City Council's actions, the first
of which, by way of Resolution R-08-25, supported the Fisherman's Landing Sebastian, Inc.,
Grant, which is a non-profit organization. They are seeking to buy a parcel of property in
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Sebastian that is an old working waterfront. Secondly, by passage of Resolution R-08-28, the
Sebastian City Council supported the City's Grant Application called the Sebastian Working
Waterfront Collaborative. This Grant aims to purchase Hurricane Harbor and the Sebastian
Entertainment Center. The total Grant request is $3.5 million with a match of $878,750, hence
the request for a matching $500,000 from the County. The City of Sebastian would contribute
$378,750 from their Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) Fund.
In summary, Mr. Minner believed their Grant has potential to be really strong,
because it has a unified vision, and if the County joins with them it would have that multi -
jurisdictional approach. He requested the County's support of the Sebastian Working
Waterfront Collaborative SMWWG Application, which is aimed at supplementing the
Fisherman's Landing Application, with a multi jurisdictional effort, and that the County allocate
up to half a million dollars ($1/2 million) for a Grant match.
Mr. Minner responded to questions from Chairman Davis as to the boundaries of
Sebastian's CRA; and whether Sebastian had checked with the Property Appraiser to ascertain
how Amendment 6 would affect those dollars, and when Amendment 6 would go into effect.
Property Appraiser David Nolte, responding to the latter, said Amendment 6
should go into effect on January 6, 2009.
Mr. Minner also responded to questions from Commissioner O'Bryan on whether
the Archie Smith Fish House was within the CRA; whether they had identified a funding source
for renovations; and once bought, from where would the funding come, for the next step.
Commissioner Solari asked if Sebastian had any plan on what the renovation
would cost, and Mr. Minner did not anticipate a lot of expenditure to get the Sebastian
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Entertainment Center facility going, because it was a fairly new building. He said the largest
expenditure he foresaw would be for Fisherman's Landing in Sebastian.
Commissioner Wheeler questioned funding for insurance, upkeep, management,
construction, the types of plans in place, and whether there was money coming back in. He
thought the concept was a great one, but felt there was the concern for money.
Chairman Davis talked about Archie Smith property and where they ran into
problems, as well as, where funds would come from for this venture. He thought it was very
unfortunate to hold the Archie Smith project to a higher standard than any other of our bond
purchases, and elaborated on those comments.
Commissioner Wheeler felt whenever we acquire an asset, a liability comes along
with it, and we have to be concerned about cost and liability. He thought the idea was great and
wanted to see it happen, but was more concerned with how they would pay for it.
Vice Chairman Flescher shared the concerns of Commissioner Wheeler. He
commended Sebastian's City Council's unanimous decision on using CRA funds to make this
happen. Although he supported Sebastian's efforts, he, too, could not see how the County could
afford this presently.
for the region.
Mr. Minner explained what a potential working waterfront would achieve/create
Commissioner Solari referred to earlier comments by Mr. Minner that if the land
value rose in that area, the County would share in that, but his understanding was that this is
community redevelopment area and any marginal increase in property taxes would go to the
community redevelopment area. Mr. Minner said after 30 years the County would share in that.
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Commissioner O'Bryan inquired about the total balance in Sebastian's CRA funds,
and Mr. Minner said they have about a half million dollars a year, but have it split into specific
projects that are allocated.
Chief of Environmental Planning, Roland DeBlois, responding to Commissioner
Flescher's questions of where the County stood with regards to bond money, and how much we
have available, disclosed that there was about a $738,000 balance, and was expecting, in a year
from now, a reimbursement on one of our investments for Sebastian Harbor Preserve Property in
the amount of $5.5 million. He thought the other issue was, would this qualify for use of the
bond funds, which he explained.
Chairman Davis was not in favor of using bond funds and asked Administrator
Baird if we did this for educational, and eco -tourism purposes, what would be the most
reasonable non -ad valorem fees for this $500,000 to come from.
Administrator Baird said it would probably be the optional sales tax and we would
probably have to go back and reprioritize our budget because sales tax is off and if the Board
thought this was a priority they could take other capital projects and put this in.
Chairman Davis then questioned the use of impact fees, and Administrator Baird
said we could not legally use the recreational impact fees because the County does not collect
them in Sebastian.
Attorney Collins explained the legal use of recreational impact fees, which has to
be expended on recreational improvements to parks and recreational facilities under the
jurisdiction of the County, and that would not be the case here. He said they have to be used
exclusively in the areas where they are collected, and if we were collecting in the unincorporated
areas we could not spend it in the cities, so the impact fees were pretty much off the table.
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Chief DeBlois responded to more questions from Vice Chairman Flescher
regarding the hurricane harbor building and whether it could be deemed to have a rich cultural
past, and if there was a historical value to which it could be aligned. Mr. DeBlois said it would
have to be determined that it is eligible for historic structure designation. He also explained the
process of getting eligibility status, and added for information that the County was working with
John Dean (pro bono) on the restoration of the Archie Smith Fish House, as well as, looking at
other funding source opportunities.
Commissioner Wheeler mentioned the need not to rush and Chairman Davis
explained that the seeming rush was because of the application deadline.
Chairman Davis expressed his excitement about this opportunity and was pleased
to see the amount of support from various entities.
David Nolte, 900 Royal Palm Place, concerned citizen, asked if any of the subject
properties were in foreclosure. He was concerned that when government buys land they seem to
pay more than the minimum price for them. He hoped that a reasonable price would be paid for
the subject property and the authorities do not just throw millions of dollars at land that is not
worth that kind of money.
Mr. Minner explained how the negotiations process would be conducted, which
would be done by the Florida Communities Trust.
Mr. Nolte said these two (subject properties) were the only two really high private
purchases, the other two were government, along the riverfront in Sebastian; and the Property
Appraiser has had to be lowering the assessed values of all the riverfront properties. He
suggested that a million, million and a half could cover the purchases.
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Commissioner O'Bryan was uncomfortable because the Florida Communities
Trust (FCT) would be handling the negotiations. He fully supported the Part A purchase, which
he thought was a very good option that the Board should fully support. He was concerned that
we already have the Archie Smith Fish House and thought that with the extra $800,000 lying
around, that could go towards getting that structure up and working. He was also concerned
about taking CRA money to buy property to take it off the tax roll, and gave his understanding of
what CRA money should be used for. He wondered what would make them successful if we
buy them. Commissioner O'Bryan expressed further concern that we would be buying a
liability; questioned who would pay for insurance; thought this was rushed; felt there was not
enough public input; supported the Fisherman's Landing Application; but could not support part
B of the Grant Application.
Vice Chairman Flescher also supported part A and could not support part B, based
on budget cuts this year and employees who have lost their jobs.
Mr. Minner responded to Vice Chairman Flescher's comments concerning a
business plan being available. He asked that if the County finds it is unable to fund this request,
that the Resolution be amended, excluding all mention of money and just supporting the City's
application for the Grant, and to amend the text to reflect the County's "support for the
Fisherman of Sebastian Landing Grant." He said a support from the County would emphasize
to the State that this is an important project.
The Commissioners had no problem with that request.
MOTION WAS MADE by Vice Chairman Flescher,
SECONDED by Commissioner Wheeler, to support the
City of "Sebastian Working Waterfront Collaborative"
SMWWG (Stan Mayfield Working Waterfront Grant)
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application aimed at supplementing the Fisherman's
Landing Application with multi jurisdictional effort.
Mr. Minner and Attorney Collins outlined the revisions to the Resolution based
on the Board's Motion to only support the Resolution for a Grant Application, and to remove all
mention of county funding from said Resolution.
Damien Gilliams, 1623 US 1, Sebastian, mentioned that there has been talk in
Sebastian about purchasing his Marina and they are short on about $700,000. He knew there is
recreation money here in the County and thought maybe the Board could find some money in its
recreation fund to help the City of Sebastian purchase his Marina before he sells it to a private
enterprise.
Administrator Baird again in response to whether they could use impact fees, said
Sebastian has its own impact fee money, which they could use.
Mr. Gilliams felt it would be a real asset to the community if the County could
purchase his Marina, and added his support to the City of Sebastian moving forward to get the
Grant money.
boundaries.
Administrator Baird reiterated that we are not allowed to expend money out of
Attorney Collins, for the Board, gave his understanding of revisions to the
Resolution as follow:
1. The Title of the Resolution will now read "A Resolution of the Board of
County Commissioners of Indian River County, Florida, supporting the City of
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Sebastian's Stan Mayfield Working Waterfront Grant and the Fisherman's
Landing Sebastian, Inc. Grant Application."
2. Page 1 — "NOW THEREFORE... would read " ...the Board supports the City
of Sebastian's Stan Mayfield Working Waterfront Grant Application and the
Fisherman's Landing Sebastian, Inc. Grant Application."
3. Paragraph 2 would be stricken.
4. Paragraph 3 would be re -numbered to paragraph 2.
There were no further discussions.
The Chairman CALLED THE QUESTION and the
Motion carried unanimously approving Resolution 2008-
180, as amended, supporting the City of Sebastian's Stan
Mayfield Working Waterfront Grant Application and the
Fisherman's Landing Sebastian, Inc. Grant Application.
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5. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Chairman declared the Meeting adjourned at
11:58 a.m.
ATTEST:
Jeffrey, K. Barton, Clerk Wesley S. Davis, Chairman
Minutes Approved: DEC 2 3 2006
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