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SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL DISTRICT
The Board of Commissioners of the Solid Waste Disposal District met at the County
Commission Chambers, 1801 27th Street, Vero Beach, Florida, on Tuesday, February 5, 2008.
Present were Chairman Sandra L. Bowden, Vice Chairman Wesley S. Davis, and Commissioners
Joseph E. Flescher, Peter D. O'Bryan and Gary C. Wheeler. Also present were County
Administrator Joseph A. Baird, County Attorney William Collins, II, and Deputy Clerk Athena
Adams.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 11:02 a.m.
14.B.1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES MEETING OF JANUARY 15, 2008
The Chairman asked if there were any additions, deletions or corrections to the
Minutes of the Regular Meeting of January 15, 2008. There were none.
ON MOTION by Commissioner Wheeler, SECONDED by
Commissioner Flescher, the Board unanimously approved
the Minutes of the Regular Meeting of January 15, 2008, as
written.
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14.B.2 WASTE HAULING FRANCHISE
Utilities Director Erik Olson described the County's waste hauling system, and disclosed
that the current Franchise Agreements with Waste Management and Treasure Coast expire in
September 2009. He presented and explained the following four (4) options from which the
Board may choose to approve:
1. Open the current contracts for open bid at this time rather than waiting for the
expiration of the contracts in September 2009.
2. Open the current contracts for negotiations at this time rather than waiting for the
expiration of the contracts in September 2009.
3. Wait until the current contracts are about to expire in September 2009 and bid the
contracts at that time.
4. Wait until the current contracts are about to expire in September 2009 and then
negotiate a new contract with the two existing solid waste haulers.
Himanshu Mehta, Managing Director of the Solid Waste Disposal District, provided
further details on the process of waste haulage and disposal, and the need to change our recycling
program.
Administrator Baird also explained some of the reasons staff wants to change the
recycling program.
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MOTION WAS MADE by Commissioner Wheeler,
SECONDED by Vice Chairman Davis, under discussion, to
approve Option 1 - "Open the current contracts for open bid
at this time rather than waiting for the expiration of the
contracts in September 2009."
Discussion ensued among Board members regarding which option was best. They also
looked at and compared how other counties were handling their waste programs.
Director Mehta responded to Commissioner Flescher's question of how prepared we are
to shift into this new program. He also responded to questions from other Commissioners.
Commissioner Flescher did not know if moving forward with this option was wise because the
market was extremely volatile. Board members continued to discuss and contemplate the best
option.
Denise Arnold, Arnold's Cleanup, understood this is recycling, but was concerned about
the small haulers that are doing the construction and demolition (C&D), and that years ago the
franchise was that one could not have a dumpster over 15 yards and now there is talk of 20 -yard
dumpsters. She asked what would happen if that yardage is changed.
Vice Chairman Davis and Utilities Director Erik Olson responded to Ms. Arnold's
concerns. Director Olson asked that the County be in a position to ensure that we do not lose
the 6% franchise fee, and that whatever we negotiate in the process captures that back into the
system. Ms. Arnold and staff engaged in further discussion regarding outsiders using 20 -yard
dumpsters versus her smaller ones.
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Tod Westover, Treasure Coast Refuse, agreed with Ms. Arnold that the franchise
agreement states that the 6% franchise fee is paid on gross revenues. He provided his knowledge
of the waste industry, and displayed comparative researched data in support of his arguments.
He highlighted his organization's achievements and expertise, his employees' character and
ability, and the services they provide.
George Geletko, representing Waste Management as its Florida Governmental Affairs
Director, reminded the Board of his company's commitment and expertise in getting the job
done. He presented a copy of Waste Pro's proposed fee increase, and compared rates from other
counties and different companies. He thereafter responded to questions from Commissioner
Wheeler regarding residential rates for haulage of trash in St. Lucie County.
Ardra Rigby, Capital Sanitation, talked about language in the contract that has provision
for "small/minority participation". He presented arguments showing why the contract should not
go out for bid. He asked that the Board get a hauler that would be willing to work with minority
contractors. He suggested the County "could put the whole thing out and let it be mandatory
pickup" even for residential, and that would bring the cost down. He appealed to the Board to
enforce the language in the contract to promote fairness. He asked the Board to consider
minority contractors.
Bill Rigby supported his brother's plea to the Board for consideration of minority
businesses. He urged the Board to put some strong language in the contract aimed to protect
local businesses/minority. He asked the Board to not put words like "encourage", but to put
words like, "they will", and "they shall".
Russell MacKie, Regional Vice President of Waste Pro, Florida, informed the Board
that they are interested in bidding for the contract. He provided a brief history of the services
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provided by his company, and informed the Board that the letter given to the Board by George
Geletko was a proposal that was withdrawn sometime ago, and also that the figures they charge
St. Lucie County are inclusive of disposal. He hoped the Board would afford them the
opportunity to bid on the contract if the Board went that way.
Rod Delacruz, 3D Waste Services, talked about language in the contract regarding
haulage that is hidden. He informed the Board that "If you open this up you are making us
obsolete."
Joseph Paladin, President of Atlantic Coast Construction & Development,
supported anything the Board could do to protect the interest of local businesses. He thought the
Board should start thinking about the repercussions if more local people go out of business. He
believed language should be kept in the contract for the 15 -yard roll -off, and the issue be looked
at very closely before anything is changed.
Scott Harrington, H&H Dumpsters, briefly described his business. He disclosed
that he spent $100,000.00 to comply with County rules for roll -off dumpsters, and felt that for
the County to change the rules years later to invite outsiders would hit hard and would not be fair
to him. He begged the Board to consider the small local people who have served the County
well.
Chairman Bowden expressed appreciation for small local businesses. Discussion
ensued regarding the change in haulage from 15 to 20 -yard dumpsters. Vice Chairman Davis
favored putting a level of protection in the contract for small businesses.
Vice Chairman Davis wanted to know if the County would violate the Franchise
Agreement if it was put out to bid. Assistant County Attorney Marian Fell did not believe there
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would be a violation because the Franchise Agreement is a privilege. Attorney Fell provided an
update on the Franchise Agreement including the requirements and provisions of said
Agreement.
The Board continued to discuss the options presented and the increase in renewal
rates. Chairman Bowden did not think they needed to put undue pressure on our local economy.
She echoed Commissioner O'Bryan's sentiments of giving opportunities where available.
Charlie Wilson, 1936 19th Avenue, believed in the bidding process, and thanked
Administrator Baird for bringing this forward. He supported protective language being in the
contract for new, growing, and minority businesses in the County.
Mr. MacKie cleared up comments about price comparisons from unincorporated
St. Lucie County.
Bob Johnson, Coral Wind Subdivision, hoped the Board was not following the
process Mr. Gary Pinto had a decade ago.
Mr. Paladin did not understand Mr. Johnson's statement. He agreed with
Commissioner O'Bryan that incorporation of wording discussed ("they shall", and "under 15
yards" on the dumpster) was important.
Vice Chairman Davis was not in favor of mandatory pickup. Administrator Baird
said maybe they could do an RFQ (Request for Qualifications) and discuss the matter with
everyone, and they could negotiate.
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Director Olson recommended a negotiation process, if the Board had to make a
choice. He thought there was some possibility, if they go out to bid, that the bar would be set for
the process.
Commissioner Wheeler withdrew his Motion for approval of Option 1.
Commissioner Wheeler thought that if we are going to negotiate, we should
probably wait until we are close to the expiration date of the current contracts. He did not have a
strong feeling on either option.
MOTION WAS MADE by Commissioner Wheeler, SECONDED by Vice
Chairman Davis, to approve Option 2 — "Open the current contracts for
negotiations at this time rather than waiting for the expiration of the contracts
in September 2009."
Director Olson supported the Option. Commissioner Flescher was concerned with
ending this prematurely and the need for changes in this uncertain economic climate. Board
members and staff continued to discuss the options presented.
The Chairman CALLED THE QUESTION and the Motion
carried unanimously. The Board approved Option 2 - "Open the
current contracts for negotiations at this time rather than waiting
for the expiration of the contracts in September 2009."
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14.B.3. AMENDMENT NO. 1 TO WORK ORDER NO. 8 - CAMP
DRESSER & MCKEE, INC. FOR ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING
SERVICES RELATED TO THE 2007 ANNUAL FINANCIAL
ASSURANCE REPORT
MOTION WAS MADE by Vice Chairman Davis, SECONDED by
Commissioner O'Bryan, to approve staff's recommendations (a) & (b).
Commissioner O'Bryan asked if we could send a bill to the Department of Environmental
Protection (DEP) for the additional cost. Director Mehta responded to Commissioner O'Bryan's
question.
The Chairman CALLED THE QUESTION and the Board
unanimously approved Amendment No. 1 to Work Order
No. 8 with Camp Dresser & McKee, Inc., in the amount of
$6,980.00 to provide additional engineering services related
to the Annual Financial Report. The Board also authorized
the Chairman to execute said Amendment, as recommended
in the memorandum of January 14, 2008.
AMENDMENT ON FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
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14.B.4. WORK ORDER NO. 10 TO CAMP DRESSER & MCKEE, INC.
FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES WITH THE 2008 ANNUAL FINANCIAL
REPORTS & GENERAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
ON MOTION by Vice Chairman Davis, SECONDED by
Commissioner Flescher, the Board unanimously approved
Work Order No. 10 with Camp Dresser & McKee, Inc., in
the amount of $82,170.00 to provide engineering services
related to the Annual Financial Reports and General
Technical Assistance. The Board also authorized the
Chairman to execute said Work Order, as recommended in
the memorandum of January 14, 2008.
WORK ORDER ON FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, on Motion duly made, seconded and carried, the Board
adjourned at 12:27 p.m.
ATTEST:
Jeffrey K. Barton, Clerk
Minutes Approved:
MAR 1 8 2008
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