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COMMISSIONERS AND THE INDIAN RIVER COUNTY
SCHOOL BOARD, REGARDING ITEMS OF MUTUAL
INTEREST
MARCH 13, 2008
I. CALL DISCUSSION TO ORDER — CHAIRMAN
DISNEY-BROMBACH..................................................................................2
II. PURPOSE OF THE DISCUSSION - CHAIRMAN
DISNEY-BROMBACH..................................................................................2
III. DISCUSSION BY BOARD MEMBERS AND COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS ON ITEMS OF MUTUAL INTEREST -
CHAIRMAN DISNEY-BROMBACH.........................................................2
IIIA. KAREN DISNEY-BROMBACH, INDIANRIVER COUNTYSCHOOL BOARD
CHAIRMAN -COOPERATIVE SPENDING...
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III. B. WESLEYS. DA VIS, INDIANRIVER COUNTY VICE CHAIRMAN.....................................5
III. B. I. PLEASANT RIDGE - PAGES I - 41.............................................................................. S
ADDITION: SCHOOL BOARD'S NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE ..................5
III. C. LENORA QUIMBY, BOARD MEMBER............................................................................. 6
I. JOINT USE OF FACILITIES............................................................................................ 6
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2. SUMMER PROGRAMS..................................................................................................... 7
3. LAND SWAP................................................................................................................... 8
III. D. ANN REUTER, BOARD MEMBER ..................................................................................9
1. BIKE TRAILS, SIDEWALKS, FITNESS............................................................................. 9
2. COMBINING RESOURCES.............................................................................................11
IV. ADJOURNMENT.........................................................................................11
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March 13, 2008
JOINT WORKSHOP OF THE INDIAN RIVER COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS AND THE INDIAN RIVER COUNTY
SCHOOL BOARD REGARDING ITEMS OF MUTUAL
INTEREST
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County, Florida, met in a Joint
Workshop meeting at the Teacher Education Center (TEC) of the Indian River County School
District's Administrative Offices, 1990 25th Street, Vero Beach, Florida, on Thursday, March 13,
2008, to discuss items of mutual interest. Present for Indian River County were Board Chairman
Sandra L. Bowden, Vice Chairman Wesley S. Davis, Commissioners Joseph E. Flescher, Peter D.
O'Bryan, and Gary C. Wheeler, who joined the meeting later. Also present were County
Administrator Joseph A. Baird, County Attorney William G. Collins II, Community Development
Director Robert Keating, Environmental and Code Enforcement Chief Roland DeBlois, Deputy
County Attorney William DeBraal, Planning Director Stan Boling, and Deputy Clerk Maureen
Gelfo.
Present for the Indian River County School Board were Chairman Karen
Disney-Brombach, Vice Chairman Carol Johnson, Board Members Lenora Quimby, Ann Reuter,
Debbie MacKay, Superintendent Dr. Harry La Cava, and Executive Assistant to the School Board.
Judy Stang.
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I. CALL DISCUSSION TO ORDER - CHAIRMAN DISNEY-BROMBACH
Indian River County School Board Chairman Disney-Brombach called the Meeting to
order at 12:36 P.M. She explained that School Board Members and County Commissioners have
the option to discuss any issue of concern that has not been placed on the Agenda.
II. PURPOSE OF THE DISCUSSION - CHAIRMAN DISNEY-BROMBACH
School Board Chairman Disney-Brombach stated that the purpose of today's Workshop
was to open up discussion on items that the elected officials deemed important which are
coordinated with the School District, and to brainstorm on items of mutual interest.
III. DISCUSSION BY BOARD MEMBERS AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
ON ITEMS OF MUTUAL INTEREST - CHAIRMAN
DISNEY-BROMBACH
IILA. KARENDISNEY-BROMBACH. INDIANRIVER COUNTYSCHOOL BOARD
CHAIRMAN -COOPERATIVE SPENDING
Chairman Disney-Brombach felt that the School Board and the County could work
together to find ways to reduce financial impact on expenditures. She believed that the School
Board and the County, two of the regions' largest employers, could pool their buying power to
purchase supplies or fuel. Ms. Disney-Brombach asked for other ideas for cooperative spending.
County Vice Chairman Davis declared that diesel fuel costs had increased, and he believed
that biodiesel was cheaper. He wanted to look into the County using biodiesel if it was cheaper
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and if no retrofit of County vehicles was necessary. He inquired whether the County shared fuel
with the School District, and learned from County Administrator Joseph Baird that fuel was
purchased in bulk and used by all County vehicles, the School Board, and the Sheriff's
Department.
School Board members and County Administrator Baird speculated on whether there
might be a joint savings relative to telephone services.
Commissioner Flescher informed everyone that Hess has incorporated 10% ethanol into
their fuel and has reduced their prices. He felt that this might be one avenue to pursue. He urged
both Boards to explore opportunities to reduce costs by combining recreational and other facilities
which could be shared by the County's youth.
School Board Vice Chairman Carol Johnson agreed that in today's economic times, it
was important not to have duplication of services or facilities.
Chairman -Commissioner Bowden conveyed that the County and Indian River Community
College were jointly building a new library. She believed that sharing library use, including
personnel, would be another pertinent avenue for reducing costs through County and School Board
partnership.
School Board Vice Chairman Johnson talked about the media center at the new school,
which would be built at 66th Avenue. School Board Members and County Commissioners
speculated on who would be allowed to access the school media centers. Discussion ensued
regarding possible safety measures which could be established to allow public access to the media
centers without jeopardizing the safety of the students.
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School Board Member Lenora Quimby talked about the opportunities available for joint
use of facilities, such as the libraries, Citrus Bowl, tennis courts, and gymnasiums.
Commissioners Davis and Flescher discussed the need for more efficient utilization of the
existing athletic fields.
Commissioner Flescher was concerned about allowing outside access to the media centers
and into the schools, and spoke about the need to ensure student safety.
County Administrator Baird discussed, and distributed to the School Board members, a list
of facilities (copy on file) which are currently shared by the Indian River County Recreation
Department and the School District.
County Vice Chairman Davis felt that once budget cuts were made, ways to save money
through partnering with the School Board, and with other municipalities, would become more
obvious.
School Board Chairman Disney-Brombach agreed with Vice Chairman -Commissioner
Davis, and noted that this was a good time to examine every angle to cut costs by sharing services
and facilities.
School Board members made further observations about safety and maintenance concerns
regarding joint use facilities, such as school libraries. They also talked about the need to establish
a suitable meeting place for County residents.
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IILB. WESLEYS. DAMS, INDIANRIVER COUNTY VICE CHAIRMAN
III.B.1. PLEASANT RIDGE - PAGEs 1- 41
Clerk's Note: This item was heard after Item III.D.1. and is placed here for continuity.
Clerk's Note: The School Board has placed this item on the Agenda as Pleasant Ridge,
because that is the way it was originally platted. The site is now known as the Winter Beach
School.
Vice Chairman Davis introduced this item, which pertains to the future of the Winter
Beach School, located at 6500 North Old Dixie Highway, which is soon to be acquired by the
School District. He wanted to let the School Board know that since the Historic Resources
Advisory Committee (HRAC) has placed the school on their list for historic preservation, the
Committee might have concerns about the School District's future plans for the building.
School Board Vice Chairman Carol Johnson reported that School Superintendent Dr.
Harry La Cava had already met with a representative of the HRAC. She believed that no one was
yet ready to make a decision on what would be done with the Winter Beach School property. She
commended Vice Chairman Davis, County Administrator Joseph Baird, County staff, and School
Superintendent Dr. Harry La Cava for their cooperation and excellent handling of this matter.
ADDITION: SCHOOL BOARD'S NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE
School Board Chairman Disney-Brombach conveyed the School Board's dire need for
additional space. She inquired whether the County Commissioners would allow a trailer to be
placed upon their property, and told the Commissioners that the extra space would accommodate
the School District's need for additional square footage.
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Discussion ensued regarding whether there was suitable space available for the School
District's use at Building B of the new County Administration Building. Administrator Baird
discussed why the subject space would not be suitable, and told the School Board that if it was all
right with the County Commissioners, staff had no problem with the School Board erecting
modulars. Vice Chairman Davis and Commissioner O'Bryan noted that they had no problem with
the modulars, provided they were approved by the City of Vero Beach.
School Board Chairman Disney-Brombach conveyed that the modulars would provide a
temporary solution to accommodate Superintendent La Cava's staff, until the new administrative
building is built in the future.
County Vice Chairman Davis and Commissioner Flescher wanted to keep "on the table"
the option of the School Board using space in the new County Administration Building B.
Commissioner O'Bryan inquired whether the County needed all the space remaining
where the old Administration Building formerly stood, and learned from County Community
Development Director Bob Keating that the subject space was under the jurisdiction of the City of
Vero Beach.
A brief discussion ensued regarding the modulars which were vacated by the Supervisor of
Elections, and which are no longer on-site.
III. C. LENORA V UIMBY. BOARD MEMBER
1. JOINT USE OF FACILITIES
Clerk's Note: Please refer to Item X.A. for this discussion.
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2. SUMMER PROGRAMS
School Board Member Lenora Quimby introduced this topic, which focused on
providing an opportunity for all County youth to participate in quality supervised summer
programs. She discussed how summer programs could provide nutrition for those not eating
properly, how to prepare the students to succeed in school, and how to help deter problem
behaviors. Ms. Quimby wanted to see a committee or task force established, which, through
cooperative efforts, could evaluate current, and establish future summer programs.
Discussion ensued between the School Board and Commissioners regarding the
importance of making the summer programs affordable for all County youth. The Gifford Youth
Activity Center was cited as a model program to emulate.
Vice Chairman Davis suggested that the Recreation Department would be a good starting
point from which to begin the cooperative effort.
Commissioner O'Bryan talked about the possibility of using Indian River Community
College students (gratis), to supervise the youth, through prospective College summer internship
programs.
Further discussion ensued between School Board members and Commissioners regarding
what groups might best assist in the effort to establish more widespread summer programs, with
the following suggestions:
• Barbara Musselwhite, the School District's Supervisor of Extended Day Programs
• Other School District Personnel
• The Early Learning Coalition
• Recreation Committee members
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• Churches
• The Gifford Youth Activities Center
• Law enforcement.
3. LAND SWAP
School Board Member Lenora Quimby wondered whether there might be some
mutually beneficial property exchanges which could be transacted between the School District and
the County. She conveyed that there was a serious need for more parking at Vero Beach High
School, and wondered if the County would be receptive to making available to the School District
the property which fronts the High School, and which currently has ball fields. In return, the
County would receive acreage on 66th Avenue, an area of future growth in the County.
Vice Chairman Davis asked what would be the School District's goals for the existing ball
fields, and School Board Member Quimby stated that an evaluation would have to be done to
determine what the needs of the High School were.
In response to Vice Chairman's Davis query, County Administrator Baird revealed that
there are four ball fields. He said that the fields were a "maintenance headache" for the County,
and felt that because of the huge parking problem at the school, it might be in the community's best
interest to have the School District utilize the property.
Vice Chairman Davis supported the idea of expanded parking for the High School, but
wanted to know how the School District would address the loss of the ball fields.
Administrator Baird wondered if the School District would build fields on the 66th Avenue
property.
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Commissioner O'Bryan stated that a lot of teams use the ball fields. Although he
understands the need for increased parking, he thought that the 66th Avenue location would be
inconvenient for many people.
School Board Member Quimby and School Board Superintendent Harry La Cava
agreed that there were not enough ball fields in the community.
Administrator Baird addressed Superintendent La Cava's concerns about the subject
property being a "maintenance headache."
Discussion ensued between School Board Members and County Commissioners regarding
other possible locations, besides the 66th Avenue property, for the construction of the ball fields.
School Board Vice Chairman Johnson emphasized that this should be a joint effort, with
staffs conducting some evaluations, and bringing information back to the respective Boards.
Clerk's Note: Vice Chairman Davis exited the meeting at 1:45 p.m.
HID. ANNREUTER. BOARD MEMBER
I. BIKE TRAILS, SIDEWALKS. FITNESS
Clerk's Note: This item was heard following III.A., and is placed here for continuity.
Indian River County School Board Member Ann Reuter recounted her experience
taking a walk between Rosewood and Glendale Schools, during which a round -about route had to
be found in order to remain on a sidewalk. She proposed putting in sidewalks/bike paths near the
schools as a cost-effective way to encourage fitness among students and their parents, and to
ensure that there is a safe way for neighborhood children to get to school.
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Vice Chairman Davis agreed that sidewalks would be a great idea, noting that by State
Statute, the School Board is not required to transport students within 2 to 3 miles of the school. He
suggested having the School Board pick a school with a large amount of pedestrian traffic, analyze
its infrastructure, and return to the County with the information.
County Community Development Director Bob Keating said that a number of sidewalk
projects are in the works, although some of them are, by necessity, tied in with roadway projects.
Commissioner Flescher invited Metropolitan Planning Organization Staff Director Bill
Mathis to speak about the "Safe Schools" program.
Clerk's Note: Indian River County Commissioner Wheeler entered the meeting at 1:03
Bill Mathis disclosed that the County's Land Development Regulations (LDR) which
require developers to build sidewalks has resulted in seventy-six (76) miles of sidewalks over a
ten-year period. He explained that there was a legal distinction regarding the roads for which the
"Safe Schools" money could be used. Mr. Mathis supported the idea of picking one school as a
pilot case; one which has or potentially could have a high walking population.
Commissioner O'Bryan cautioned that all the sidewalks in the world would be of no
importance if parents would not let their children use them, for safety reasons. He advocated
having parents fill out a survey to see if they would allow their children to walk to school.
School Board Member Reuter agreed that the parents would have to support this
initiative; otherwise, it would be a waste of money.
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Vice Chairman Davis declared that the County was ready to build sidewalks, and he tasked
the School Board to show the County where they should be placed.
2. COMBINING RESOURCES
Clerk's Note: As most of today's discussion was centered on "Combining Resources ", Ms.
Reuter noted that she did not need to add anything specific.
The meeting concluded with positive comments offered by School Board members and
County Commissioners regarding today's meeting, and about the need for continued cooperation.
Both groups expressed the desire for more meetings in the future.
IV. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Chairman Disney-Brombach adjourned the Meeting at
1:51 p.m.
ATTEST:
Jeffr&K{ ton, Clerk Sandr L. Bowden, Chairman
Minutes Approved: APR 1 5 2008
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