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INDEX TO MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
OF BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
OF MARCH 16, 2004
1.CALL TO ORDER ........................................................................................ 1
2.INVOCATION ............................................................................................... 1
3.PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ...................................................................... 1
4.ADDITIONS/DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA/EMERGENCY
ITEMS............................................................................................................. 1
5.PROCLAMATION HONORING CHARLES WARD ON HIS
RETIREMENT EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 19, 2004 ............................... 2
6.APPROVAL OF MINUTES ........................................................................ 2
7.CONSENT AGENDA.................................................................................... 2
7.A.R ...................................................................................................................2
EPORTS
7.B.R ...................................................................................................................3
EPORTS
7.C.AW .........................................................................................3
PPROVAL OF ARRANTS
7.D.2004EBZA(BZA)C
LECTION OF OARD OF ONING DJUSTMENTS HAIRMAN
CMVCWC..................................3
HRISTOPHER ARINE AND ICE HAIRMAN AYNE OMET
March 16, 2004 1
7.E.CCGASP’G
HAIRMAN AROLINE INN PPOINTED TO ENATOR RUITTS ROWTH
TF ................................................................................................................3
ASK ORCE
7.F.AC2004–CAWG.CII ...............4
NNUAL ONTRACT OUNTY TTORNEY ILLIAM OLLINS
7.G.EEDSSD ........................4
XCESS QUIPMENT ECLARED URPLUS FOR ALE OR ISPOSAL
7.H.AB#6005–ABCB,SI
WARD ID NNUAL ID FOR ATCH ASINS TORMWATER NLETS
-ACI,I.(PW-RB
MERICAN ONCRETE NDUSTRIES NC UBLIC ORKS OAD AND RIDGE
D) ....................................................................................................................5
IVISION
7.I.AB#6001–ABT-S,JBC
WARD ID NNUAL ID FOR HIRTS ERSEYS AND ASEBALL APS
–TCCVS’SG–
HE HISHOLM ORPORATION OF ERO DBA COTTS PORTING OODS
(RD) .....................................................................................5
ECREATION EPARTMENT
7.J.B,M,STDRP
AYTREE ARBRISA EAGRAPE RAIL UNE ESTORATION ROJECT
#03103–HFS,I.–FRR–
ENRY ISCHER AND ONS NC INAL ELEASE OF ETAINAGE
(PW) .........................................................................................................6
UBLIC ORKS
7.K.VBI,LLC-NPC
ERO EACH NVESTMENTS OTICE OF ROPOSED HANGE TO THE
VG/CDRI(DRI)
ILLAGE REENOUNTRYSIDE EVELOPMENT OF EGIONAL MPACT
DO(D.O.)–PHDS
EVELOPMENT RDER UBLIC EARING ATE CHEDULED
(CD) ....................................................................................7
OMMUNITY EVELOPMENT
7.L.CP–BRG(S125–I
AFETERIA LAN ENEFITS ESOURCE ROUP ECTION NTERNAL
RSC)(HR) .....................................................7
EVENUE ERVICE ODE UMAN ESOURCES
7.M.RN.2004-027–MBA007
ESOLUTION O ISCELLANEOUS UDGET MENDMENT
(B) ....................................................................................................................8
UDGET
7.N.TCHSC,I.–TC
REASURE OAST OMELESS ERVICES OUNCIL NC REASURE OAST
HMISP-TSUS
ROJECT ECHNICAL UBMISSION FOR THE NITED TATES
DHUD(HUD)2003G–
EPARTMENT OF OUSING AND RBAN EVELOPMENT RANT
FL29B309003(HS) ...........................................................................8
UMAN ERVICES
7.O.PHCWHR
ROCLAMATION ONORING HARLES ARD ON IS ETIREMENT
EF19,2004 .................................................................................9
FFECTIVE EBRUARY
9.B.1.PUBLIC DISCUSSION ITEM – C. W. CARL – BREEZY
VILLAGE SUBDIVISION, INC. OF SEBASTIAN DEED
RESTRICTIONS ........................................................................................... 9
March 16, 2004 2
9.B.2.PUBLIC DISCUSSION ITEM – THOMAS EMBRO – REQUEST
THTH
FOR LOT SPLIT ON 57 STREET WEST OF 66 AVENUE .......... 10
11.A.IMPACT FEE STUDY CONSULTANT - RECOMMENDATION
AND FINAL RANKING OF SELECTION COMMITTEE –
APPROVAL OF CONTRACT WITH TINDALE-OLIVER &
ASSOCIATES, INC. (COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT) .................... 11
11.B.EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE GRANT
FUNDING AND EXPENDITURES EMERGENCY SERVICES -
DIRECTOR JOHN KING AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE THE
DOCUMENTS (EMERGENCY SERVICES).......................................... 13
11.C.RFP #6047 – CONSULTANT SERVICES FOR LIBRARY
MASTER PLAN (GENERAL SERVICES) (HARVARD JOLLY
CLEES TOPPE, ARCHITECT/RUTH O’DONNELL, LIBRARY
CONSULTANT............................................................................................ 14
TH
11.I.1.ROAD MAINTENANCE OF 84 AVENUE SOUTH OF CR 510
(AKA DAVIS ROAD) BRIAN & WESLEY DAVIS – GRAVES
BROTHERS GROVES (PUBLIC WORKS) ............................................ 15
11.I.2.EXPANSION OF COUNTY FIRING RANGE – ADDITION OF
LAW ENFORCEMENT RANGE REQUESTED BY SHERIFF
ROY RAYMOND (PUBLIC WORKS)..................................................... 18
11.I.3.LEGEND LAKES SUBDIVISION – DEVELOPER’S
AGREEMENT – SMIGIEL PARTNERS XII, LTD. (PUBLIC
WORKS) ....................................................................................................... 18
March 16, 2004 3
11.I.4.KITCHING STATION TRAILHEAD – PROJECT #0219 –
AMENDMENT NO. 2 TO DEP (DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION) AGREEMENT NO. S0017 –
EXTENSION OF COMPLETION DATE (PUBLIC WORKS) ............ 18
11.I.5.RESOLUTION NO. 2004-028 - COST SHARE AGREEMENT
WITH FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
(FDOT) FOR CR 510 (WABASSO ROAD) PROJECT
DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENT (PDE) STUDY
(PUBLIC WORKS) ..................................................................................... 19
11.J.GREENLEAF SUBDIVISION PETITION WATER SERVICES –
THTH
55 COURT SW, SOUTH OF 13 STREET SW – PROJECT NO.
UCP-2414 (UTILITIES SERVICES)......................................................... 20
12.COUNTY ATTORNEY – GROWTH TASK FORCE – ST. LUCIE
COUNTY CHARETTE .............................................................................. 21
13.ACHAIRMAN CAROLINE D. GINN ......................................................... 23
13.B.VICE CHAIRMAN ARTHUR R. NEUBERGER ................................... 23
13.C.COMMISSIONER FRAN B. ADAMS...................................................... 23
13.D.COMMISSIONER THOMAS S. LOWTHER ......................................... 23
13.E.COMMISSIONER KENNETH R. MACHT ............................................ 23
14.A.1.A.EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT ................................................... 24
March 16, 2004 4
14.A.1..AM–D16,2003........................................24
A PPROVAL OF INUTES ECEMBER
14.A.1..AM–J13,2004 ...........................................24
B PPROVAL OF INUTES ANUARY
14.A.1..AM–F17,2004 .........................................24
CPPROVAL OF INUTES EBRUARY
14.A.2.TPABIR
RAINING ARTNERSHIP GREEMENT ETWEEN NDIAN IVER
CCESD ................................24
OMMUNITY OLLEGE AND MERGENCY ERVICES ISTRICT
14.B.SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL DISTRICT .................................................. 24
14.B.1.AM–J6,2004 ..............................................24
PPROVAL OF INUTES ANUARY
14.B.2.CD&MK(CDM)–WAN.30–
AMP RESSER CEE ORK UTHORIZATION O
AESEC
NNUAL NGINEERING ERVICES AND NVIRONMENTAL OMPLIANCE
A ...............................................................................................................24
SSISTANCE
14.C.ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL BOARD ............................................. 25
March 16, 2004 5
March 16, 2004
REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County, Florida, met in
th
Regular Session at the County Commission Chambers, 1840 25 Street, Vero Beach, Florida, on
Tuesday, March 16, 2004, at 9:00 a.m. Present were Caroline D. Ginn, Chairman; Arthur R.
Neuberger, Vice Chairman; and Commissioners Fran B. Adams, Thomas S. Lowther, and Kenneth
R. Macht. Also present were Joseph Baird, Acting County Administrator; William G. Collins II,
County Attorney; Kimberly Massung, Executive Aide to the Board; and Patricia Ridgely, Deputy
Clerk.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Ginn called the meeting to order.
2. INVOCATION
Dr. Norman Pavey, Community Church, delivered the Invocation.
3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Neuberger led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
4. ADDITIONS/DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA/EMERGENCY
ITEMS
March 16, 2004 1
Chairman Ginn requested the following changes to today’s Agenda:
1.Move 5.A. to Consent Agenda as new Item 7.O.
2.Additional backup for Item 11.B.1.
3.Additional backup for Item 11.I.5.
4.Additional backup for Item 14.A.2.
5.Revision Item 7.F.
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Commissioner Adams, the Board unanimously made the
above changes to the Agenda.
5. PROCLAMATION HONORING CHARLES WARD ON HIS
RETIREMENT EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 19, 2004
Moved to 7.O.
6. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
None.
7. CONSENT AGENDA
7.A. R
EPORTS
Received and placed on file in the Office of the Clerk to the Board:
Report of Convictions February 2004
March 16, 2004 2
7.B. R
EPORTS
Received and placed on file in the office of the Clerk to the Board:
State of Florida, Auditor General, Financial, Operational and Federal Single Audit
Report of the Indian River County District School Board for FY Ended 06/30/03
7.C. AW
PPROVAL OF ARRANTS
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Vice Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously
approved the list of warrants issued by the Clerk to the
Board for the period February 27-March 4, 2004, as
requested.
7.D. 2004EBZA(BZA)
LECTION OF OARD OF ONING DJUSTMENTS
CCMVC
HAIRMAN HRISTOPHER ARINE AND ICE HAIRMAN
WC
AYNE OMET
The Board noted the above election of officers.
7.E. CCGAS
HAIRMAN AROLINE INN PPOINTED TO ENATOR
P’GTF
RUITTS ROWTH ASK ORCE
The Board noted Chairman Ginn’s appointment to Senator Pruitt’s Growth Task
Force.
March 16, 2004 3
7.F. AC2004–CAWG.
NNUAL ONTRACT OUNTY TTORNEY ILLIAM
CII
OLLINS
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Vice Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously
approved the Employment Agreement with William G.
Collins II as presented as an attachment in the memorandum
dated March 10, 2004.
CONTRACT IS ON FILE
IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
7.G. EEDSS
XCESS QUIPMENT ECLARED URPLUS FOR ALE OR
D
ISPOSAL
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Vice Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously declared
surplus and authorized the sale and/or proper disposal of the
items on the Excess Equipment List; authorized the
donation of surplus items to the Association for Retarded
Citizens (ARC) as noted on the Excess Equipment List; and
requested that the excess equipment be picked up and
delivered to the auction that will be held on April 24, 2004
at the Indian River County Sheriff’s Office, as recommended
in the memorandum of March 8, 2004.
March 16, 2004 4
7.H. AB#6005–ABCB,
WARD ID NNUAL ID FOR ATCH ASINS
SI-ACI,
TORMWATER NLETS MERICAN ONCRETE NDUSTRIES
I.(PW-RBD)
NC UBLIC ORKS OAD AND RIDGE IVISION
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Vice Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously awarded
Bid #6005 to American Concrete Industries, Inc. as the sole
responsive and responsible bidder meeting the specifications
as set forth in the Invitation to Bid; authorized the
establishment of an open end contract for the period of
March 16, 2004 through September 30, 2004 with the
recommended bidder; and authorized the Purchasing
Manager to renew this contract for two (2) additional one
(1) year periods subject to satisfactory performance, zero
cost increase, Bidder acceptance and the determination that
renewal of this annual contract is in the best interest of
Indian River County, as recommended in the memorandum
dated March 5, 2004.
7.I. AB#6001–ABT-S,J
WARD ID NNUAL ID FOR HIRTS ERSEYS AND
BC–TCCV
ASEBALL APS HE HISHOLM ORPORATION OF ERO
S’SG–(R
DBA COTTS PORTING OODS ECREATION
D)
EPARTMENT
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Vice Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously awarded
March 16, 2004 5
Bid #6001 to The Chisholm Corporation of Vero dba
Scott’s Sporting Goods as the sole most responsive and
responsible bidder meeting the specifications as set forth in
the Invitation to Bid; authorized the establishment of an
Open End Contract for the period of March 16, 2004
through September 30, 2004 with the recommended bidder;
and authorized the Purchasing Manager to renew this
contract for two (2) additional one (1) year periods subject
to satisfactory performance, zero cost increase, Bidder
acceptance and the determination that renewal of the annual
contract is in the best interest of Indian River County, as
recommended in the memorandum of March 5, 2004.
7.J. B,M,STDR
AYTREE ARBRISA EAGRAPE RAIL UNE ESTORATION
P#03103–HFS,I.–F
ROJECT ENRY ISCHER AND ONS NC INAL
RR–(PW)
ELEASE OF ETAINAGE UBLIC ORKS
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Vice Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously
approved the final payment and application for release of the
retainage in the amount of $20,677.25 to Henry Fischer and
Sons, Inc., as set forth and recommended in the
memorandum dated March 4, 2004.
DOCUMENTS ARE ON FILE
IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
March 16, 2004 6
7.K. VBI,LLC-NP
ERO EACH NVESTMENTS OTICE OF ROPOSED
CVG/C
HANGE TO THE ILLAGE REENOUNTRYSIDE
DRI(DRI)D
EVELOPMENT OF EGIONAL MPACT EVELOPMENT
O(D.O.)–PHDS
RDER UBLIC EARING ATE CHEDULED
(CD)
OMMUNITY EVELOPMENT
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Vice Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously
scheduled a public hearing for consideration of Vero Beach
Investments, LLC’s Notice of Proposed Change to be held
at the Board’s regular meeting on April 13, 2004, as
recommended in the memorandum dated March 9, 2004.
7.L. CP–BRG(S
AFETERIA LAN ENEFITS ESOURCE ROUP ECTION
125–IRSC)(H
NTERNAL EVENUE ERVICE ODE UMAN
R)
ESOURCES
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Vice Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously
authorized staff to negotiate a contract with Benefits
Resource Group who offered the lowest administrative cost
for services, as recommended in the memorandum of March
9, 2004. (A local servicing agent will be available to assist
staff and employees.)
March 16, 2004 7
7.M. RN.2004-027–MB
ESOLUTION O ISCELLANEOUS UDGET
A007(B)
MENDMENT UDGET
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Vice Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously adopted
Resolution No. 2004-027 amending the Fiscal Year
2003-2004 budget.
7.N. TCHSC,I.–
REASURE OAST OMELESS ERVICES OUNCIL NC
TCHMISP-TS
REASURE OAST ROJECT ECHNICAL UBMISSION
USDH
FOR THE NITED TATES EPARTMENT OF OUSING AND
UD(HUD)2003G–FL29B309003
RBAN EVELOPMENT RANT
(HS)
UMAN ERVICES
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Vice Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously
approved the Treasure Coast Homeless Services Council
Technical Submission for the HUD 2003 Grant for
signature, as requested in the memorandum dated March 10,
2004.
COPY OF SUBMISSION DOCUMENT IS ON FILE
IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
March 16, 2004 8
7.O. PHCWH
ROCLAMATION ONORING HARLES ARD ON IS
REF19,2004
ETIREMENT FFECTIVE EBRUARY
Proclamation presented at another time and noted here for the record.
9.B.1. PUBLIC DISCUSSION ITEM – C. W. CARL – BREEZY
VILLAGE SUBDIVISION, INC. OF SEBASTIAN DEED
RESTRICTIONS
th
Mr. C. W. Carl
, 6111 98 Street, Sebastian, president of Breezy Village
Subdivision, Inc., expressed concern because one of their property owners had received a permit
from the County for work not in compliance with their deed restrictions. On behalf of his
organization, he asked if the County would assist by adding a few questions to the County’s permit
applications that would indicate that an applicant was requesting something that was compliant with
the subdivision’s deed restrictions.
County Attorney Collins responded that the County cannot enforce a private deed
restriction; their property owners’ association would have to enforce their own deed restrictions.
He wondered whether the permitting section could flag subdivisions with deed restrictions.
Community Development Director Bob Keating responded that doing so would get
into the efficiency of how the permitting process is handled. The County has not historically
reviewed deed restrictions; most subdivisions have deed restrictions now and it could be pretty
cumbersome.
Discussion ensued.
Mr. Carl
stated that they had tried to enforce the deed restrictions by hiring a lawyer
who advised that they should not go to court. They paid the lawyer’s fee, they took the advice, and
he felt they got nothing for their money. He was concerned because the same person has other
properties in their subdivision and plans to do the same thing.
March 16, 2004 9
Commissioner Adams and Commissioner Macht suggested they have their deed
restrictions reviewed and corrected if necessary.
County Attorney Collins stated his office would contact Mr. Carl for the name of the
attorney to determine what the problem might be. (CLERK’S NOTE: Subsequently, Mr. Carl did
not identify the attorney.)
Brian Heady
thought the public interest would be served by putting the questions
on the permit application and the County would not have to assume any responsibility by having the
questions on the applications.
9.B.2. PUBLIC DISCUSSION ITEM – THOMAS EMBRO – REQUEST
THTH
FOR LOT SPLIT ON 57 STREET WEST OF 66 AVENUE
th
Thomas Embro
, 927 Ocean Place, advised that he owns a lot on 57 Street west
th
of 66 Avenue that he wished to split. He had been advised that the lot was a few feet short of the
required 200,000 square feet and it cannot be split. He claimed other lots nearby had been split and
other houses in the area were built on split lots and he wanted equal treatment.
Chairman Ginn explained the Commission does not sit as a body to make land use
decisions on specific lots; there is a procedure in place where the property owner goes to the
Planning Department.
Planning Division Director Stan Boling confirmed that 200,000 square feet is an
absolute minimum for lot size. He noted that some parcel maps give approximate sizes and Mr.
Embro could not use rights-of-way as part of the calculation of his lot size. Staff would be glad to
look over the surveys on other lot splits.
March 16, 2004 10
11.A. IMPACT FEE STUDY CONSULTANT - RECOMMENDATION
AND FINAL RANKING OF SELECTION COMMITTEE –
APPROVAL OF CONTRACT WITH TINDALE-OLIVER &
ASSOCIATES, INC. (COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT)
Community Development Director Bob Keating reviewed his memorandum dated
March 9, 2004 and offered to respond to questions.
Commissioner Lowther inquired whether the responding companies know they have
4 months to complete this project. He asked why the differences were so great in the amounts
proposed.
Director Keating responded that the firms were well aware of the 4-month time line.
He noted that Tindale-Oliver just completed the traffic impact study and the selection committee
had ranked them first.
Acting County Administrator Baird specified that all members of the evaluating
committee had picked Tindale-Oliver as #1 even though Tindale-Oliver was scored low in respect
to their bid amount. Tindale-Oliver will dedicate 10 people to our project and their resources and
qualifications were very important factors in the ranking.
The Chairman thought the Board should hear from the second-ranked Duncan
Associates.
Jim Duncan
, president of Duncan Associates, gave a lengthy PowerPoint
presentation and his associate, Tom Wright, gave each Commissioner a spiral-bound copy of it.
(Copy is on file with the backup in the Office of the Clerk to the Board along with three other pages
entitled Comparative Impact Fee Qualifications, Duncan Associates Impact Fee Clients by Facility
and Nicholas Impact Fee Clients by Facility.) He understood that the Board was not as aware of his
firm. He specified that his firm is an urban planning firm that specializes in impact fees and LDR’s.
He stated that this was the first time he had ever questioned the decision of a staff selection
committee. There were 5 factors that guided the selection committee’s ranking, two were fixed (the
March 16, 2004 11
time period and the scope of services). He then reviewed the other 3 factors the committee used and
listed his team’s experience, qualifications, and fee proposal. He believed the product Duncan
Associates would produce would be of high quality and tailored to the County’s specific needs. He
thought the Board should override the selection committee’s recommendation as difficult as it
would be to do so.
Commissioner Adams inquired whether the Duncan firm had ever done any work in
Indian River County and why there was no address on their presentation booklet.
Mr. Duncan advised they had never worked for our county although he had many
friends living here who have battled the battle of Broward. He had worked with Administrator
Chandler in earlier years. As to their address, the document presented was their PowerPoint
presentation and that typically does not include an address. They are based in Austin, Texas; they
have offices in Palm Beach, and do a lot of work in Florida.
Chairman Ginn then invited comments from Tindale-Oliver.
Bill Ball
, a principal with Tindale-Oliver, which has offices in the state of Florida,
stated that his firm has a 15-year relationship working with Indian River County staff. He
emphasized they are wrapping up several projects in Florida and are now in a strong position to
identify the 10 key people who will be working with Indian River County’s impact fees. They are
excited about the project and anxious to get started.
MOTION WAS MADE by Commissioner Adams,
SECONDED by Commissioner Macht, to approve staff’s
recommendation.
Under discussion, Chairman Ginn stated she was a little uncomfortable with the
dollar difference. She has confidence in staff and that makes it tough.
Brian Heady
interrupted requesting to speak and was ruled out of order by the
Chairman.
March 16, 2004 12
The Chairman CALLED THE QUESTION and it carried by
a 3-2 vote (Chairman Ginn and Commissioner Lowther
opposed). (The Board approved the consultant selection
prioritization list and authorized the Chairman to execute
the contract with the number one ranked firm,
Tindale-Oliver and Associates, Inc., for a total cost of
$183,346.00, as recommended in the memorandum dated
March 9, 2004.)
CONTRACT IS ON FILE
IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
11.B. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE GRANT
FUNDING AND EXPENDITURES EMERGENCY SERVICES -
DIRECTOR JOHN KING AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE THE
DOCUMENTS (EMERGENCY SERVICES)
ON MOTION by Commissioner Adams, SECONDED by
Commissioner Lowther, the Board unanimously approved
acceptance of the funding provided by the Emergency
Management Performance Grant and approved the
expenditures listed in the memorandum to be funded from
the Emergency Management Performance Grant and
authorized Emergency Services Director John King to
execute the documents associated with same, as
recommended in the memorandum dated March 8, 2004.
March 16, 2004 13
COPY OF SIGNED DOCUMENTS IS ON FILE
IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
11.C. RFP #6047 – CONSULTANT SERVICES FOR LIBRARY
MASTER PLAN (GENERAL SERVICES) (HARVARD JOLLY
CLEES TOPPE, ARCHITECT/RUTH O’DONNELL, LIBRARY
CONSULTANT
General Services Director Tom Frame reviewed the memorandum dated March 9,
2004. He asked the Commissioners to accept the ranking and the selection committee’s
recommendation of the firm Harvard Jolly Clees Toppe, Architects/Ruth O’Donnell, Library
Consultant. He explained that the selection committee felt the approach taken by Harvard Jolly was
far superior to that of Stottler-Stagg in spite of their higher fee proposal.
MOTION WAS MADE by Commissioner Macht,
SECONDED by Vice Chairman Neuberger, to approve
staff’s recommendation:
Under discussion, Director Frame responded to questions as to the makeup of the
committee and time frame.
The Chairman CALLED THE QUESTION and motion
carried unanimously. (The Board unanimously approved
the ranking by the committee and authorized staff to
commence negotiations with Harvard Jolly Clees Toppe,
Architects/Ruth O’Donnell for the design services defined in
March 16, 2004 14
RFP #6047, as recommended in the memorandum dated
March 9, 2004.)
AGREEMENT IS ON FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
TH
11.I.1. ROAD MAINTENANCE OF 84 AVENUE SOUTH OF CR 510
(AKA DAVIS ROAD) BRIAN & WESLEY DAVIS – GRAVES
BROTHERS GROVES (PUBLIC WORKS)
MOTION WAS MADE BY Commissioner Macht,
SECONDED by Vice Chairman Neuberger, to approve
staff’s recommendation. (To delay acceptance of
maintenance until the road maintenance study is complete
this summer. The County does not have an obligation to
maintain/construct a road in the right-of-way unless the
Board accepts the road for maintenance/construction. A
license agreement may be required to allow the gate to
remain.)
Under discussion, Public Works Director James Davis reviewed his memorandum
of March 9, 2004, and recounted that a recent title search pointed to the County’s ownership of this
road. Historically this road has been used for agricultural (citrus) purposes; the issue now centers
on citrus canker, a gate, and the desire of Wesley and Brian Davis (whose property abuts this road)
to develop their property. He recommended postponing a decision on maintaining this road until
this summer when the overall road maintenance study by Carter and Associates will be completed.
He hoped to wrap up the study within 6-8 weeks and bring the matter back on the agenda.
Because it appears the County owns this road, Commissioner Adams thought the
County has a responsibility to maintain it. The access question due to citrus canker is one that is
prevalent all over the county.
March 16, 2004 15
Director Davis estimated that about half of the roads in the study are within
dedicated rights-of-way; the other half are either in drainage district rights-of-way, not dedicated to
the general public, but to a specific taxing district. There are many miles of paper rights-of-way that
the County owns, but we physically do not maintain them. All of those roads are in the agricultural
area.
In response to Chairman Ginn’s inquiry, Director Davis explained Graves Brothers
put up the gate to restrict general public access when the citrus canker concern came up. Keys were
given to property owners to manage access; if property owners are comfortable in leaving it there,
staff would be agreeable as long as we have some license agreement concerning the gate.
County Attorney Collins recounted that Brian Davis had an application of exemption
application in for almost two years. They spent a lot of time working on a reciprocal
maintenance/ingress/egress easement agreement when they thought it was a private grove road.
The public deed surfaced when Graves Brothers wanted the agreement stopped.
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Brian Davis
, 9255 141 Avenue, distributed several photographs of the gates and
road under discussion. He suggested there could be liability issues because of the disrepair of the
road. He understood the citrus canker concern and because of the industry’s hard times he has put
cows on his property. He was concerned about emergency vehicle access and asked the Board to
remove the gates and make the road safe until the study comes out.
Jeff Bass
, Graves Brothers Company, 1240 Indian Mound Trail, thought there were
2 issues: the road ownership and the citrus canker. He specified that the gates were put in at the
dictate of the State. He stressed the seriousness of the citrus canker and what it could do to the
citrus industry in this area and the high cost of wash stations. Graves has stopped maintaining the
road and that is why it is deteriorating.
Commissioner Adams reiterated her recommendation that we need to maintain the
road if the County owns it.
Chairman Ginn thought there is obviously a question of ownership.
March 16, 2004 16
Commissioner Macht WITHDREW HIS MOTION, Vice
Chairman Neuberger WITHDREW HIS SECOND.
Vice Chairman Neuberger suggested the County Attorney investigate further in
order to establish ownership of the road since there appears to be a reason to determine ownership
at this time.
MOTION WAS MADE by Commissioner Lowther,
SECONDED by Vice Chairman Neuberger, to table the
matter until ownership of the road can be determined.
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James Douglas
, 6900 84 Avenue, claimed to have lived there for 25 years and his
wife’s family lived there prior to that. The County graded the road 25 years ago but stopped doing
it about 15 years ago. After that, he helped pay to grade the road and would help cut back trees over
the road. While he was a bit upset when the gates were put up, he understands the canker concern
and is agreeable to work with Graves.
In response to Vice Chairman Neuberger, County Attorney Collins advised that he
would try to bring back information on ownership at the first or second meeting in April.
The Chairman CALLED THE QUESTION and the Board
unanimously tabled this item until the first or second
meeting in April to allow time for the County Attorney to
research the documents presented.
(CLERK’S NOTE: See also Item 11.I.1. on April 13, 2004 meeting.)
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11.I.2. EXPANSION OF COUNTY FIRING RANGE – ADDITION OF
LAW ENFORCEMENT RANGE REQUESTED BY SHERIFF
ROY RAYMOND (PUBLIC WORKS)
ON MOTION by Commissioner Adams, SECONDED by
Commissioner Macht, the Board unanimously approved
expansion of the shooting range project and requested that
proposals be received for design services, as recommended
in the memorandum dated March 3, 2004.
11.I.3. LEGEND LAKES SUBDIVISION – DEVELOPER’S
AGREEMENT – SMIGIEL PARTNERS XII, LTD. (PUBLIC
WORKS)
ON MOTION by Commissioner Lowther, SECONDED by
Commissioner Adams, the Board unanimously approved the
Developer’s Agreement with Smigiel Partners XII, LTD,
and authorized the Chairman’s signature on same, as
recommended in the memorandum dated February 19,
2004.
AGREEMENT IS ON FILE
IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
11.I.4. KITCHING STATION TRAILHEAD – PROJECT #0219 –
AMENDMENT NO. 2 TO DEP (DEPARTMENT OF
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ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION) AGREEMENT NO. S0017
– EXTENSION OF COMPLETION DATE (PUBLIC WORKS)
ON MOTION by Commissioner Adams, SECONDED by
Vice Chairman Neuberger, the Board unanimously
authorized the Chairman to sign the two (2) proposed FDEP
Agreements No. S0017, Amendment No. 2, as
recommended in the memorandum dated March 10, 2004.
COPY OF PARTIALLY EXECUTED AGREEMENT IS ON FILE
IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
11.I.5. RESOLUTION NO. 2004-028 - COST SHARE AGREEMENT
WITH FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
(FDOT) FOR CR 510 (WABASSO ROAD) PROJECT
DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENT (PDE) STUDY
(PUBLIC WORKS)
ON MOTION by Vice Chairman Neuberger, SECONDED
by Commissioner Lowther, the Board unanimously adopted
Resolution No. 2004-028 approving a locally funded
agreement with the Florida Department of Transportation to
fund a portion of the project development and
environmental (PDE) study for CR 510 (and authorized the
Chairman to execute same, as recommended in the
memorandum dated March 9, 2004. Alternative No. 1).
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COPY OF PARTIALLY EXECUTED AGREEMENT IS ON FILE
IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
11.J. GREENLEAF SUBDIVISION PETITION WATER SERVICES –
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55 COURT SW, SOUTH OF 13 STREET SW – PROJECT
NO. UCP-2414 (UTILITIES SERVICES)
Assessment Projects Manager Dan Chastain reviewed his memorandum and
specified his recommendation is an exception to the Comprehensive Plan due to a health issue. He
recommended the County extend water service to the eight properties in this area.
Dean Mays
, a resident of this area, attested to having had the water tested and that
for 3 years his house had not had any good water in spite of multiple wells. According to the tests,
his water keeps getting worse and the family had illness because of it. Eight of the neighbors out
his way need the County’s water; there will not be any other impacts.
Mr. Chastain asked the Board to make an exception to serve just these 8 properties.
ON MOTION by Commissioner Macht, SECONDED by
Commissioner Adams, the Board unanimously approved the
project and authorized the Utilities Department to proceed
with the engineering design work and award of a contract
for survey services based on the most favorable quote in
preparation for the special assessment project, as
recommended in the memorandum dated March 3, 2003.
ANY DOCUMENTS PROVIDED WILL BE ON FILE
IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
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12. COUNTY ATTORNEY – GROWTH TASK FORCE – ST. LUCIE
COUNTY CHARETTE
(CLERK’S NOTE: Backup includes a 2-page memo from the County Attorney
along with a proposed resolution. Also, additional backup consisted of a list of 125 applicants to
serve on the task force.)
Chairman Ginn advised that she had contacted Dr. David Sullivan (Provost, Mueller
Campus of Indian River Community College) to facilitate this committee, but he was unable to make
a commitment at this time. If he is able to do it, he specified he could do it on Saturdays. She also
advised that St. Lucie County will host a charette tomorrow night and she invited everyone to
attend. She suggested the task force be postponed until April.
MOTION WAS MADE by Vice Chairman Neuberger,
SECONDED by Commissioner Macht, to table the item
until the first meeting in April.
Discussion was held on the advisability of postponing action, who would lead the
group, how many members would be appointed, whether or not to include staff, whether or not to
include elected officials, what their task assignment would be, when and how often the task force
might meet, how much time would be given for completion of their task, an understanding of time
frames and mechanisms, who would bring forward their recommendations, as well as other ideas
and suggestions.
It was determined that each Commissioner would submit 6 names to Executive Aide
to the Board Kimberly Massung who would review those names with Chairman Ginn to look for
duplication. It was understood that the task force would be subject to the Sunshine Law.
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The Chairman CALLED THE QUESTION and the motion
carried unanimously. (Tabled to April 6, 2004 meeting.)
Chairman Ginn assured everyone this was not an effort to get away from work but
to make an effort to gather more information at the charette and to speak with Dr. Sullivan as soon
as possible. It was pointed out that there has already been a lot of public input.
George Christopher
, 945 Painted Bunting Lane, spoke at length against the
formation of a task force and in support of a letter written by Dr. Richard Baker opposing the task
force. If the Board proceeds with a task force, he thought it needed to have a clear charter,
representation from the community and not special interest groups, and the expertise of staff to tell
them what is “doable” and what is not. He urged them to move forward by giving direction to staff
to draw up the suggested changes and hold public hearings.
Chairman Ginn commented that she was not thrilled with the task force, but that was
the direction the Board had chosen.
Commissioner Lowther suggested having staff come back with changes in
accordance with comments that came up during the workshops and after attending the charette in
St. Lucie.
Chairman Ginn thought that was a good suggestion.
Commissioner Adams noted that staff had asked the Commission what changes
needed to be made. She recalled they have talked about (strengthening) the tree ordinance.
Commissioner Macht specified that staff cannot give direction to the Board, all they
can do is refer to the law as it stands in the Comprehensive Plan. The task force will give the Board
their recommendations after they have reach a consensus, and then it is up to the Board to direct
staff. All we can expect staff to do is tell the task force what the law says and how it can be changed.
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Robert Swift
, 6450 Glendale Road (aka 8 Street), agreed with several points made
by Mr. Christopher. He thought the task force could serve a good function by digging into the
problems and the perceptions of the problems and how the problems can be addressed. He did not
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think it would be a futile exercise nor would it sidetrack the visioning process. He urged them to
make sure it is a balanced group.
Joseph Paladin
, president of Atlantic Coast Construction and Development, at 730
Congress Drive, lives at 6830 South A1A. He thought the task force should consist of individuals
who live, work and have interest in the county who can put their personal agenda aside to address
the issue with an open mind.
Vice Chairman Neuberger commented that he did not need anyone to tell him who
to appoint; he pointed out that there has already been a lot of discussion on this matter.
Penny Chandler,
executive director of the Vero Beach and Indian River County
Chamber of Commerce, believed that if the task force has a clear picture of the problems they could
reach a point where they could make recommendations. They need staff to be there to guide them
on what is lawful. She cautioned that many people have plans for the summer, weekends, and
travel.
13.A CHAIRMAN CAROLINE D. GINN
None.
13.B. VICE CHAIRMAN ARTHUR R. NEUBERGER
None.
13.C. COMMISSIONER FRAN B. ADAMS
None.
13.D. COMMISSIONER THOMAS S. LOWTHER
None.
13.E. COMMISSIONER KENNETH R. MACHT
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None.
14.A.1.. EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT
A
14.A.1.. AM–D16,2003
A PPROVAL OF INUTES ECEMBER
14.A.1.. AM–J13,2004
B PPROVAL OF INUTES ANUARY
14.A.1.. AM–F17,2004
CPPROVAL OF INUTES EBRUARY
14.A.2. TPABI
RAINING ARTNERSHIP GREEMENT ETWEEN NDIAN
RCCES
IVER OMMUNITY OLLEGE AND MERGENCY ERVICES
D
ISTRICT
The Chairman announced that immediately upon adjournment, the Board would
reconvene as the Board of Commissioners of the Emergency Services District. Those Minutes are
being prepared separately and are appended to this document.
14.B. SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL DISTRICT
14.B.1. AM–J6,2004
PPROVAL OF INUTES ANUARY
14.B.2. CD&MK(CDM)–WA
AMP RESSER CEE ORK UTHORIZATION
N.30–AES
O NNUAL NGINEERING ERVICES AND
ECA
NVIRONMENTAL OMPLIANCE SSISTANCE
March 16, 2004 24
The Chairman announced that immediately upon adjournment of the Emergency
Services District, the Board would reconvene as the Board of Commissioners of the Solid Waste
Disposal District. Those Minutes are being prepared separately and are appended to this document.
14.C. ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL BOARD
None.
ALL BACKUP DOCUMENTATION, RESOLUTIONS, AND ORDINANCES ARE ON FILE IN THE OFFICE OF
THE CLERK TO THE BOARD AND ARE HEREBY MADE A PART OF THESE MINUTES
There being no further business, on Motion duly made, seconded and carried, the
Board adjourned at 11:25 a.m.
ATTEST:
_________________________________ ________________________________
Jeffrey K. Barton, Clerk Caroline D. Ginn, Chairman
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Minutes Approved: _________________
BCC/PMR/MINUTES
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