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INDEX TO MINUTES OF PUBLIC WORKSHOP
OF BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
MARCH 3, 2006
PROPOSED PROPORTIONATE SHARE ORDINANCE
SENATE BILL 360
1.CALL TO ORDER........................................................................................ 1
2.INVOCATION ............................................................................................... 2
3.PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE- .................................................................... 2
4.COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ............................................................. 2
5.QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS ........... 2
6.PUBLIC COMMENTS................................................................................. 4
7.ADJOURNMENT. ........................................................................................ 8
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PUBLIC WORKSHOP OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS
PROPOSED PROPORTIONATE SHARE ORDINANCE TO
AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County, Florida, met in
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Special Session at the County Commission Chambers, 1840 25 Street, Vero Beach, Florida, on
Tuesday, March 3, 2006, at 9:00 a.m. The purpose of this workshop was to discuss a proposed
Proportionate Share Ordinance amending the Comprehensive Plan allowing developers to enter
into agreements to improve roads and/or contribute toward road improvements and obtain
concurrency. Present were Chairman Arthur R. Neuberger, Vice Chairman Gary C. Wheeler, and
Commissioners Sandra L. Bowden, Wesley Davis and Thomas S. Lowther. Also present were
County Administrator Joseph Baird, County Attorney William G. Collins II, Executive Aide to the
Board Kimberly Massung, and Deputy Clerk Maria I. Suesz.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Neuberger called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.
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2. INVOCATION
Planning Director Stan Boling delivered the Invocation.
3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE-
Vice Chairman Gary C. Wheeler led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
4. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Community Development Director Bob Keating, through a PowerPoint presentation
(copy on file), discussed Senate Bill 360, the 2005 Growth Management Act, which modifies
Chapter 163 of the Florida Statutes. It mandates school concurrency, changes concurrency
requirements, and specifically mandates that all local governments in the State have to adopt a
proportionate fair share concurrency ordinance by December 1, 2006. The intent of the
Legislature is to provide a method by which the impact of development on transportation facilities
can be mitigated by the cooperative efforts of the public and private sectors. To incorporate the
proportionate fair share mitigation program into the County’s concurrency management system,
section 910.09(4)(a) of the LDRs must be amended, and a new section 910.12 must be added.
Section 910.09(4)(a) of the County LDRs must be changed to make this section consistent with the
recently adopted Comprehensive Plan Capital Improvement Element (CIE). He discussed the
proportionate share concept, the draft proportionate share ordinance and its provisions and
procedures. He presented a proportionate share example and illustrated formulas. Mr. Keating
concluded his presentation by asking the Board to review the proposed/draft proportionate share
ordinance to amend Chapter 910 of the LDRs, identify needed changes, and provide direction and
comments to staff.
5. QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Commissioner Davis felt Senate Bill 360 was going to make the County’s current
situation worse, and he saw it defeating the purpose of the County’s pending ordinance.
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Director Keating agreed with Commissioner Davis, but only in certain projects.
Commissioner Davis would like to see a “build-as-you-go,” rather than
“pay-as-you-go,” format to alleviate a lot of concerns regarding inflation. He would like to see the
County join the developer, let the developer build the road, and have the developer pay back the
County with interest.
George Hamner
, Vice Chairman of the Planning and Zoning Commission, posed
several questions to staff regarding the cost inflation factor, the policy on limiting projects to the
Capitol Improvement Plan (CIP), and concurrency.
Discussion continued regarding decisions the Board would be allowed to make
under Senate Bill 360. The Board learned that the Department of Transportation would be
involved in decisions regarding Stategic Intermodal System (SIS) roadways (I-95 and SR-60).
Discussion ensued and several members of the Planning and Zoning Commission
asked for additional detailed information from staff regarding the procedures and requirements
that would be mandated by Senate Bill 360 and the proportionate share ordinance.
Administrator Baird noticed the Impact Fee’s 15% discount was not factored into
the formula used by staff and requested staff to rework the formula.
Commissioner Lowther commented that the Proportionate Share agreement would
apply only to the developers with insufficient links, and the Board would have the opportunity to
decide whether the 15% discount should be applied.
George Christopher
, P&Z Commission member, wanted to see the Board wait
until they heard from the Consultant before taking action because he was troubled with only one
public hearing requirement and the 3-year period.
County Attorney Collins shared the same reservations as Mr. Christopher. He saw
similarities to the way utilities’ extensions currently operated and suggested that the Board set up
an analogous program, to add a link not on the CIP now, and structure an agreement where the
developer pays for it and the cost recovery comes from other people entering into similar
proportionate share agreements. Those costs go to repay the developer. If development stops, and
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there is a recession, then those funds may be at risk. All of those costs will go through negotiation,
but he said a method similar to what utilities use may be something to explore.
Commissioner Davis liked this idea a lot.
Administrator Baird said staff felt the developer should be on the line if the economy
slows down.
Commissioner Wheeler felt to be fair the developer should build the road with no
time limit to recoup his cost, and the County should not interfere.
Chairman Neuberger felt there has to be an end-point at some time.
Discussion ensued regarding why the County always used the 5-year end-point,
which has nothing to do with the proportionate share agreement.
George Gross
, Planning & Zoning member, wanted to know the rationale behind
changing the definition of concurrency because of Senate Bill 360, and if staff used that definition
to approve or reject projects. He learned this ordinance changes the current procedure from
3-years from Certificate of Occupancy to 3 years from obtaining a building permit.
6. PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mark Brackett
Developer liked Attorney Collin’s idea. He wanted to see
additional language in the ordinance discussing a private sector percentage threshold that would
mean automatic placement in the 5-year plan. He thought the formula used was fair, and he
wanted to see consistency regarding public hearings.
(Clerk’s note: The Chairman called for a recess at 10:29 a.m., and he reconvened
the meeting at 10:34 a.m., with all members present.)
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John Higgs
, resident on Myrtle Way, wanted the Board to make sure that the public
and the people are not saddled with a development they do not want. He agreed with Mr. Brackett
who suggested they enter into a discretionary agreement and follow the process used to amend the
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5-year plan. He felt it would eliminate a lot of dissension and any legal problem.
expressed concerned that the Board may find themselves in a position to pre-approve a developer
that has not gone through any process, but staff advised him it has to be financially feasible to go
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on the CIP, and the Board has complete discretion when a project is not in the 5-year plan.
Higgs
agreed with Mr. Christopher regarding waiting for the consultant’s report and then consider
the two ordinances.
Chairman Neuberger announced that they would not be taking action today.
Joseph Paladin
, Chairman of the Growth Awareness Committee, a private sector
group, felt our County would be less affected by Senate Bill 360 because we have taken on a
management plan. He thought staff took a conservative approach to Senate Bill 360 in wording
the ordinance, and he sees the proportionate share as another tool to getting roads built where
normally they could not. He felt it was important to point out that part of the model ordinance was
not included in the draft ordinance. He read “…under this process development may proceed
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despite a lack of adequate capacity or impact of the transportation system.”
concluded stating that the developer can always pay more than his impact fee allowance, but he
can never pay less.
Director Keating explained that there is a provision in Senate Bill 360 that actually
allows local government to approve a development project where the applicant is entering into a
proportionate share agreement, even if he does not fix all the existing deficiencies. It has some
qualifying wording that the proportionate share improvements have to supply some significant
benefit to the impact of the transportation system. Staff did not feel it needed to be in the ordinance
and felt it was not consistent with the County’s philosophy.
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Ernie Cox’s
Attorney stated his Firm has been engaged with staff to suggest some
improvements to the ordinance, as follows:
1.define any of the terms that do not have a natural meaning;
2.include a long term concurrency management system;
3.hold a workshop or meeting regarding projects that have capacity and do not
need the proportionate share, modifying the ordinance to “at the stage of PD”
to pay the impact fees from “at the stage of the building permit.”
Discussion ensued by the Commissioners regarding item 3, listed above.
Director Keating explained that the County has not adopted a long-term concurrency
management system and that is why it was not included in the ordinance.
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Bob Swift
, 2145 14 Avenue, a local developer, liked Mr. Cox’s suggestions. He
was hoping the proportionate share ordinance and the pending ordinance could be linked, because
there is a lot of contradiction between the two. He saw the proportionate share ordinance as a very
effective tool to give the County a way to solve some of the existing issues and he urged the Board
to stay on track and move forward.
There was a lengthy discussion regarding linking the two ordinances.
Jerry Swanson
, 2300 Ocean Drive, a commercial developer, felt the proportionate
share ordinance would eliminate the problem that he had, of a developer not being able to build
because of a deficient link. He said staff misleads the public when they state most roads are taken
care of in the CIP when US 1 is not in the program. He was concerned that the Board is loosing the
common sense aspect, because a commercial developer needs to pay the impact fees now, not
later.
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In response to Commissioner Neuberger’s question, Director Keating said to put
insufficient links on the CIP now they would have to show a written commitment and agreement in
place and this would be discussed in detail later.
Bob Johnson
, Coral Wind subdivision, thought the state is imposing a situation that
does not exist in our County. He recommended that the County ask the State to be exempt from
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Senate Bill 360. He would like to see staff take examples existing in the County, such as 27
Avenue, and show exactly what the impact would be.
Nancy Offutt
, representing the Treasure Coast Builders Association, made some
observations regarding the proportionate share ordinance. The Builders Association encouraged
the Board to go forward with collecting impact fees in advance of the project going on the road and
they want them to continue in a vicious fashion. She commended Commissioner Wheeler for
recognizing initial infrastructure costs and for suggesting a longer period, provided initial
infrastructure can be paid back. She liked Mr. Cox’s suggestion that when you have a project and
you can get support to get it approved, that is when you should vest.
Joseph Paladin
commented that he supports the pending ordinance admitting that it
was a reaction to what was happening in the County at that time. With the adoption of Senate Bill
360 he thinks it does not keep anyone from going forward, it just keeps one from vesting. It
protects a vast amount of people in the County. He just did not want the Board to feel that they
went in the wrong direction.
David Etter,
Castaway Cove, said it was impossible for him to justify the expense
of hiring a consultant, negotiating with the County, hiring a lawyer, and paying the impact fees as
a single developer, and he thought it would be great if there could be diminimus provisions.
Director Keating said one the components that the traffic consultant is looking at is a
project’s overall impact and how far out it will go. It will be discussed when the traffic consultant
reviews his report. He has advertised and scheduled this to go to the P&Z Commission on March
9, 2006, and he was looking at mid-April to bringing back his report to the Board. He encouraged
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comments and recommendations to be submitted until then through email or by contacting him or
Stan Boling.
Discussion continued regarding Mr. Etter’s concurrency problem.
(Clerk’s Note: Commissioner Wheeler exited the meeting at 11:50 am.)
Richard Vialoski
questioned if the proportionate share agreement gave the
developer the right to move forward before dealing with the impact fees.
Director Keating responded that he would be dealing with impact fees first,
especially if he has a deficient link.
Ray Fletcher,
P&Z member, wanted to know what triggers a deficient link, and felt
the most important factor was to have a fixed math formula.
Commissioner Davis disagreed.
(Clerk’s note: Commissioner Lowther and Commissioner Bowden exited the
meeting at 11:55 am.)
Traffic Engineer Chris Mora added that the traffic consultant was looking at other
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counties’ models throughout the State, and he will have recommendations by April 17 , which is
the end of his contract.
7. ADJOURNMENT.
There being no further business, on Motion duly made, seconded and carried, the
Board adjourned at 11:56 a.m.
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ALL BACKUP DOCUMENTATION ARE ON FILE IN THE OFFICE OF
THE CLERK TO THE BOARD AND ARE HEREBY MADE A PART OF THESE MINUTES
ATTEST:
_________________________________ ________________________________
Jeffrey K. Barton, Clerk Arthur R. Neuberger, Chairman
Minutes Approved: _________________
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