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INDEX TO MINUTES OF JOINT MEETING
OF BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY
OF PALM BAY COUNCIL MEMBERS
OF APRIL 11, 2007
1.CALL TO ORDER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE......................... 1
2.OPENING REMARKS AND INTRODUCTIONS ................................... 2
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HAIRMAN ARY HEELER
3.GROWTH ...................................................................................................... 2
4.TRANSPORTATION ................................................................................... 6
5.UTILITIES ..................................................................................................... 6
6.WATER SUPPLY ......................................................................................... 6
7.QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS AND COUNTY COMMISSION MEMBERS ..................... 7
8.QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC....................... 8
9.ADJOURNMENT ....................................................................................... 10
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JOINT MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS AND THE
CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL MEMBERS
April 11, 2007
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County, Florida, met in Joint Session
at the City of Palm Bay Council Chambers, 120 Malabar Road, S.E. Palm Bay, Florida, on
Wednesday, April 11, 2007, at 7:00 p.m. Present were Chairman Gary C. Wheeler, Vice Chair
Sandra L. Bowden arrived at 7:05 p.m., and Commissioners Wesley S. Davis, Joseph E. Flescher
arrived at 8:25 p.m., Peter D. O’Bryan. Also present were County Administrator Joseph A. Baird,
County Attorney William G. Collins II, and Maria I. Suesz, Deputy Clerk.
Present from the City of Palm Bay were Mayor John Mazziotti, Deputy Mayor Ed Geier,
City Council Persons Pat Woodard, Andy Anderson, and Donna Brooks.
1. CALL TO ORDER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
City of Palm Bay Mayor John J. Mazziotti called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m., and
Deputy Mayor Ed Geier led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
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2. OPENING REMARKS AND INTRODUCTIONS
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The City Council Members listed above introduced themselves, and City Manager Lee
Feldman introduced Deputy City Manager Sue Hann, Deputy City Manager Jon Lewis, Growth
Management Director David Watkins, Public Works Utilities Director Jason Yarbrough, and City
Attorney Nick Tsamoutales.
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Indian River County Commissioners introduced themselves and Assistant County
Administrator Mike Zito introduced County Attorney William G. Collins, II; Utilities Director
Erik Olson; and Community Development Director Bob Keating.
Commissioner Davis also introduced Susan Adams, City Council Member of Fellsmere,
and Beth Mitchell, Sebastian Inlet Taxing District.
Chairman Gary Wheeler thanked the Council for inviting the Commissioners. He stated
the purpose for this meeting was for updates on information regarding the growth plans for the
City of Palm Bay.
3. GROWTH
City Manager Lee Feldman
explained that the City of Palm Bay in the past year and a
half had taken a number of voluntary annexations for property in southern Brevard County, which
included several parcels that are on the Indian River County border.
(Clerk’s Note: Vice Chair Sandra Bowden entered the meeting at 7:05 p.m.)
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Mr. Feldman
displayed a Brevard County Map showing portions of Palm Bay covering
100 square miles and provided detailed information on current and possible future annexation
properties and land densities. It was revealed that geographically the city is the seventh largest
community in the State. Mr. Feldman advised that Palm Bay is in the Comprehensive Plan Process
of the land development phase of most of the annexation properties. He discussed Palm Bay’s
general growth pattern and stated that the city is concentrating on having a good mix of plans. He
disclosed that the Joint Planning Agreement (JPA) between Palm Bay and Brevard County
delineates “no annexation areas” including Grant-Valkaria, Barefoot Bay, Micco, and Little
Hollywood.
Commissioner Davis posed questions to the City Manager regarding what predicated the
“no annexation areas”, and what generated the number of annexations to the City. City Manager
Feldman explained there was concern that the City was going to annex everything, and Palm Bay
officials made it clear they were only interested in dealing with property owners on a voluntary
basis. Mr. Feldman stated that having guaranteed access to utilities was the main reason for the
annexations, as Palm Bay must provide water and sewer for those inside the city limits.
Deputy Mayor Geier
believed it was important to review the past when planning for the
future and he provided a brief history and tenure of the Mayor and Council members. Vice Chair
Bowden also spoke of her history with the City of Palm Bay. Mayor Mazziotti communicated that
two of Palm Bay’s goals are self-sufficiency and smooth functioning.
Mr. Feldman
continued discussing the annexations, stating that in Community
Developments the Homeowner Associations would be responsible for the infrastructure so the
long-time residents are not burdened. Any main thoroughfares would be the city’s responsibility.
Mr. Feldman noted that these are long-range plans that would be executed in phases, thoughtfully
and carefully, and he talked about Bayside Lakes that is ten years old and 50 percent built out. Mr.
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Feldman believed that there probably would be a 20-30+ year build out, with plenty of time to set
the infrastructure in place. Growth Management Director Watkins described Bayside Lakes, a
PUD consisting of 2,000 units on 2,000 acres, approximately one unit per acre. There is 25% open
space minimum, and the development includes a mix of small and large lots, single-family homes,
commercial areas, and a government center. He divulged that all large landowners are told that
they must comply with certain environmental stipulations; they are also informed that a variety of
development is desired.
Director Watkins
discussed the Willowbrook Property and the C-1 Diversion, which is
the Melbourne-Tillman Water Control District canal. He hoped that a large ecotourism base could
be created for South Brevard County.
Deputy Mayor Geier
pointed out that the neighborhood council has been able to maintain
a balance between open space and commercial property. He invited the Commissioners to contact
City Manager Feldman if they would like to tour the city.
Commissioner Davis wondered whether Palm Bay has annexation plans for the Merrier
Ranch. Mayor Mazziotti stated that the city would like to annex the area (with no intention of
altering the wetlands). He revealed that the annexation would allow Palm Bay to take credit for
the wetlands, resulting in reduced flood insurance costs for the residents. Commissioner Davis
commented that this would become a mitigation bank.
Chairman Wheeler asked City Manager Feldman what the anticipated population build out
would be as a result of annexations. Mr. Feldman believed the population might grow to between
350,000 and 400,000 residents.
Chairman Wheeler asked city officials to explain how zoning is handled before
Director Watkins
annexations. replied that the city looks at the overall density of per unit per
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acre. He pointed out that Palm Bay has already reduced the allowable densities in their
Director Watkins
Comprehensive Plan by over 30,000 units. anticipated a future maximum
density of less than two units per acre.
Commissioner Davis wanted to know if Palm Bay’s Comprehensive Plan allows for the
transfer of development rights (TDR). Mr. Watkins replied that the policy is in place, but has not
yet been implemented.
In response to a query from Vice Chair Bowden, Director Watkins disclosed that the only
utilities service provider in Brevard County is Florida Power and Light (FPL).
Discussion ensued among Commissioners and Palm Bay officials regarding a possible
interstate interchange being developed near the Capano property. It was noted that the longest
stretch of interstate without an interchange is the 18 miles between the northern most interchange
in Sebastian and the southernmost interchange at Malabar Road. City Manager Feldman stated
that Palm Bay is going to be responsible for 60 % of the new parkway (within the city). Deputy
Mayor Geier added that Palm Bay is also opening a Charter school.
City Manager Feldman
commented that Palm Bay is beginning to engage all the property
owners in comprehensive development agreements to deal with the responsibility of providing the
infrastructure. He displayed a map showing a projected road and interchange that would be
financed through developer participation, although the city has not yet worked out the cost sharing
details.
In response to Chairman Wheeler’s query, information was provided on Palm Bay’s
current impact fees on a single-family residential unit.
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4. TRANSPORTATION
Mayor Mazziotti
estimated the current impact fee on a single-family residential unit to be
$4,000.00.
5. UTILITIES
Mr. Feldman
announced that Palm Bay is building a 2 million gallon per day sewer plant
that would have a 10 million gallon per day capacity. Commissioner Davis asked how the city
handled the resultant brine and Mr. Feldman stated that the substance was managed by deep
injection into a 3,000 foot well.
Indian River County Utilities Director Erik Olson noted that Indian River County had sold
Palm Bay their sewage plant. He expounded upon Indian River County’s wastewater system and
detailed their methods of handling the brine.
6. WATER SUPPLY
City Manager Feldman
revealed that Palm Bay’s water comes from the Florida Aquifer.
There are two water treatment plants, the newest of which has a 4 million gallon per day reverse
osmosis plant, which can expand to 20 million gallons a day.
Commissioner Davis talked about creating a new water reservoir (utilizing a large area in
the western boundaries) in conjunction with St. John’s Water Control and Indian River Farms
Drainage Districts. He hoped to reduce pollutants and fresh water run off entering the Indian River
Lagoon.
Mayor Mazziotti
conveyed that he considered Indian River County a good neighbor and
stated that Palm Bay would be happy to work with Indian River on common issues. Vice Chair
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Bowden stated that the County Commission had a history of meeting with counties on both sides,
and the meeting with Palm Bay completed this process.
7. QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
AND COUNTY COMMISSION MEMBERS
Mayor Mazziotti
talked about Palm Bay’s emergency services. He made it clear that
Palm Bay is fairly self-sufficient. Although Palm Bay has its own fire and police departments, the
County is currently responsible for the ambulance service. Commissioner Davis stated that each
municipality in Indian River County has a different police system, but there is a countywide
dual-certified EMS (except for Indian River Shores).
Council Member Woodard
spoke about the importance of the counties working together
(perhaps as part of the Metropolitan Planning Organization) on the issues of transportation and
eco-tourism, and thanked the Commissioners for participating in the Joint Meeting.
Commissioner Davis commented about a project (the Sculling Facility, a world wide training
facility) that had resulted after a Joint Meeting between Brevard and Indian River Counties.
Deputy Mayor Geier added that it is key to the future of Florida to continue looking at issues as
regional, rather than local.
Commissioner O’Bryan brought up the importance of cooperation between Palm Bay and
Indian River County on transportation. Council Member Anderson agreed that Palm Bay and
Indian River County should work together in order to affect improvements in the community.
Council Member Anderson
thanked the County Commissioners for attending the Joint
Meeting and mentioned that there is concern about the environmentally sensitive lands being
annexed. He noted that citizens’ health and safety is also a primary concern, and mentioned the
importance of the residents having easy access to disaster exodus routes.
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Assistant County Administrator Michael Zito asked what the County’s reactions to the
annexations had been. City Attorney Tsamoutales replied that all annexations had been voluntary;
statutory requirements had been followed.
City Manager Feldman
stated that the Joint Planning Agreement sets up a
communication process between Palm Bay and Brevard County when there are land use changes
in any designated joint planning areas. There is a period of comment and a dispute resolution
process used to handle objections. Commissioner O’Bryan asked how binding the agreement was,
and Mr. Feldman acknowledged that three JPA members could vote to break off the agreement,
noting that it was a five-year agreement with a 30-day cancellation period.
Indian River County Public Works Director Jim Davis asked if there were any immediate
plans for a causeway to bridge Indian River to the barrier island along Indian River County, to
which he was told “no”; the prohibitive cost was cited as one (but not all) of the reasons.
8. QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
Vicki Benoit
, Micco, voiced her concern that some developers may build to the 20 unit per
acre specification detailed in the Comprehensive Plan.
Clerk’s Note: Commissioner Flescher entered the meeting at 8:25 p.m.
There was a brief discussion regarding the Comprehensive Plan, with Director Watkins
discussing the density stipulations. Palm Bay was aware of everyone’s concerns, and those will be
addressed before the amendment is adopted. Mr. Watkins acknowledged that there might be areas
that will have 20 units per acre, but a cap will be set.
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Commissioner Davis wanted to know if there were height restrictions in Palm Bay, and he
wondered what a 20 unit per acre structure would look like. City Manager Feldman stated that
parts of the city have height regulations. He indicated that any high-density structures were likely
to be Planned Unit Developments (PUDs), which have inherent zoning rules and noted that the
appearance would depend on surrounding developments and planning and marketing issues.
Diane McCauley
, Micco, asked why there was a right angle on the plan for the I-95
interchange, and wanted to know if it was possible for the intersection to be located on Babcock
Road. City Manager Feldman responded that the interchange could not occur on Babcock. The
right angle is only a theoretical alignment to provide an approximation for the location of the
interchange.
Vicki Benoit
had attended water workshop meetings in both Indian River County and
Palm Bay. She stated that there seemed to be a discrepancy among each jurisdiction as to whether
or not a water problem exists. City Manager Feldman clarified that Palm Bay is not in one of the
areas of critical concern delineated by the St. John’s River Water Management District
(SJRWMD); the city’s water supply is sufficient for expansion.
The County Commissioners made observations regarding the water situation in Indian
River County, touching upon the SJRWMD, water quality, well usage, water use boundaries, and
consumptive use permitting, and voiced their concerns for the future county water supply.
Chairman Wheeler asked whether Palm Bay intended to supply Fellsmere with water.
City Manager Feldman responded that Palm Bay had approached Fellsmere to see if they needed a
water supply from them, but nothing further has resulted. Mayor Mazziotti assured the
Commissioners that Palm Bay would not undertake any type of involvement with Indian River
County without having the Commission involved.
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9. ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Mazziotti thanked the Commissioners for attending the Joint Meeting with Palm
Bay.
There being no further business, on Motion duly made, seconded and carried, the Board
adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
ATTEST:
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Jeffrey K. Barton, Clerk Gary C. Wheeler, Chairman
Minutes Approved: _________________
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