HomeMy WebLinkAbout9/24/1979MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 1979
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF INDIAN RIVER COUNTY,
FLORIDA, MET IN SPECIAL SESSION AT THE COURTHOUSE, VERO BEACH,
FLORIDA, ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 1979, AT 5:00 O'CLOCK P.M.
PRESENT WERE WILLIAM C. WODTKE, JR., CHAIRMAN; ALMA LEE Loy, VICE
CHAIRMAN; WILLARD W. SIEBERT, JR.; R. DON DEESON; AND PATRICK B.
LYONS. ALSO -PRESENT WERE NEIL NELSON, ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR;
GEORGE G. COLLINS, JR., ATTORNEY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS;
JEFFREY K. BARTON, FINANCE OFFICER; AND VIRGINIA HARGREAVES, DEPUTY
CLERK.
THE CHAIRMAN CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCED THAT
IT IS BEING HELD TO CONSIDER THE BUDGET OF THE FIRE PROTECTION MUNICI-
PAL SERVICE TAXING UNIT.
THE HOUR OF 5:01 O'CLOCK P.M. HAVING PASSED, THE DEPUTY CLERK
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The Board of County Commissioners,
Indian River County, Florida, on
behalf of The Indian River County
Fire Protection . Municipal Service
Taxing Unit proposes to increase
your property,.. taxes from zero to
.67425 mills. •
District Defined by Ordinance
Number 78-43
The Boundaries of said Taxing Unit to
Include The Unincorporated Portions
of Indian River County.
A public hearing will be held on Mon-
day, September 24, 1979 at 5:01 P.M.
in the ; County., Commissioners
Meeting Room in the Indian River
County Courthouse.
Sept. 16, 1979 ,
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CHAIRMAN WODTKE EXPLAINED THAT THIS
IS A FUND THAT
HAS
NOT
BEEN IN EXISTENCE IN PAST YEARS, BUT IS A RESULT OF THE RECOMMENDATION
IN THE SOUTHERN-KELTON DUAL TAXATION STUDY THAT THE COUNTY RAISE
IN A SEPARATE FUND THE DOLLARS WE ARE USING IN THE UNINCORPORATED
AREAS FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES.
THE CHAIRMAN ASKED IF ANYONE PRESENT WISHED TO BE HEARD.
ED WARD OF THE ROSELAND PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION NOTED
THAT THIS DISTRICT APPARENTLY WAS CREATED BY ORDINANCE 78-43, WHICH
WAS ADOPTED DECEMBER 20, 1978, AND MADE EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 26, 1978.
HE STATED THAT HIS ASSOCIATION HAD NO PREVIOUS KNOWLEDGE OF THIS
ORDINANCE AND ASKED IF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAS THE
AUTHORITY TO INITIATE SUCH AN ORDINANCE WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM THE
TAXPAYERS AFFECTED.
ATTORNEY COLLINS INFORMED MR, WARD THAT AT THE TIME THE
ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED, IT WAS PROPERLY ADVERTISED; FIFTEEN DAYS
NOTICE WAS GIVEN; A PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD; AND THE ORDINANCE WAS
ADOPTED. THE REASON FOR TODAY'S HEARING IS TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AN
OPPORTUNITY TO OBJECT TO THE MILLAGE PROPOSED, TO SUGGEST ALTERNA-
TIVES, OR TO PRAISE. THERE WILL BE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS
SAME MATTER ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 27TH.
COMMISSIONER LYONS STATED THAT HE DID NOT FEEL THIS SHOULD
COME AS A SURPRISE BECAUSE THE BUDGET SESSIONS WENT ON FOR SOME TIME,
AND THEY WERE PUBLICLY NOTED, HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY WORD DOESN'T
GET OUT AND STATED THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PEOPLE HERE WHO
HAVE A DISTINCT INTEREST.
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT POINTED OUT TO MR. WARD THAT A MEMBER
OF THEIR ASSOCIATION IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE FIRE STUDY COMMITTEE AT
WHICH THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN DETAIL, ALTHOUGH POSSIBLY AT A MEETING
HE MISSED. MR. WARD REPLIED THAT THE MEMBER MR. SIEBERT IS REFERRING
TO STATED HE DID NOT KNOW OF THIS ORDINANCE.
ATTORNEY COLLINS INFORMED MR. WARD THAT HE PERSONALLY HAS
DISCUSSED THIS ORDINANCE WITH GROVER FLETCHER, THE MEMBER IN QUESTION,
ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.
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CHAIRMAN WODTKE FELT THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION ABOUT
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND EXPLAINED THAT WE ARE NOT
TAXING ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, THESE DOLLARS HAVE SIMPLY BEEN MOVED
OUT OF THE AD VALOREM TAX AND ARE NOW BEING RAISED ONLY IN THE UNIN-
CORPORATED AREA. HOPEFULLY, NEXT YEAR THERE WILL BE A NORTH COUNTY
FIRE DISTRICT AND A SOUTH COUNTY FIRE DISTRICT.
MR. WARD INFORMED THE BOARD THAT THE ROSELAND AREA IS
SERVICED BY THE ROSELAND VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH RECIPROCAL
ARRANGEMENTS WITH MICCO, THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, AND THE CITY OF
FELLSMERE, AND THEY HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS MEETING THEIR NEEDS THROUGH
THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. HE CONTINUED THAT THE PEOPLE OF ROSELAND HAVE
RAISED OVER $10,000, AND WITH VOLUNTEER EFFORTS AND MATERIALS CONTRIBU-
TED, HAVE ALMOST COMPLETED A FIREHOUSE ON DONATED LAND, WHICH FIRE-
HOUSE WILL HOUSE THEIR NEEDS, AS FAR AS EQUIPMENT IS CONCERNED; FOR
SEVERAL YEARS TO COME. HE FURTHER NOTED THAT APPLYING THE PROPOSED
TAX RATE TO ROSELAND'S TAX BASE (OR APPROXIMATELY $18,500,000) WILL
RAISE ABOUT TWICE WHAT IS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THAT DEPARTMENT. MR, WARD
STATED THAT WHILE HIS FIGURES MAY NOT BE ENTIRELY ACCURATE, HE BE-
LIEVED THEY WERE CONSERVATIVE, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE NEW ROSELAND
SHOPPING CENTER WAS NOT INCLUDED AT ALL. HE POINTED OUT THAT THE
AREA HE IS TALKING ABOUT IS THE AREA FROM THE NORTH LINE OF THE CITY
OF SEBASTIAN TO THE NORTH COUNTY LINE, NOT THE SAME AREA AS PRECINCT
#1, HE FELT THAT EVEN THOUGH MORE FUNDS WILL BE RAISED THAN ARE
NEEDED BY THE AREA, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THE TOTAL FUNDS WOULD
BE SPENT IN THAT AREA; PRESUMABLY SOME OF IT WOULD BE USED TO TAKE
CARE OF THE SOUTH COUNTY UNINCORPORATED AREA, MR, WARD FELT IT IS
IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISH ROSELAND AS AN ENTITY, BUT HE DID NOT KNOW
HOW IT CAN BE DONE SINCE THEY ARE WITHIN TWO MILES OF SEBASTIAN AND
UNDER STATE LAW CANNOT INCORPORATE.
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT FELT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE ASKING
THEM TO DO NEXT MARCH - FORM A TAXING DISTRICT FROM WABASSO ON THE
MAINLAND ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH COUNTY LINE JUST TO SUPPORT THE
FELLSMERE, SEBASTIAN, ROSELAND AREA. THIS WOULD INCLUDE THE MUNICI-
PALITIES AS WELL.
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MR. WARD FELT THE PROBLEM IS THE REPRESENTATION BE-
CAUSE ANY MANAGEMENT GROUP OF THE FIRE DISTRICT WOULD INVOLVE ONE
INDIVIDUAL AT MOST FROM THE ROSELAND AREA AND SEVERAL FROM SEBASTIAN .
AND FELLSMERE; ROSELAND, THEREFORE, WOULD AGAIN HAVE THE PROBLEM
OF BEING OVERRULED ON EVERYTHING THEY TRY TO DO TO PROTECT THEIR
OWN INTERESTS.
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT EXPLAINED THAT THE RECOMMENDATION OF
THE STUDY GROUP IS TO HAVE TWO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, TWO ELECTED
OFFICIALS FROM THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN AND ONE FROM FELLSMERE, THE
THEORY IS THAT IF THEY HAVE TAXING AUTHORITY, THEY SHOULD BE ELECTED
OFFICIALS. THERE WOULD BE ADVISORY MEMBERS FROM ALL VOLUNTEER ORGANI-
ZATIONS, -AND ONE COMMISSIONER WOULD BE THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM
DISTRICT K.
MR. WARD REITERATED THAT ROSELAND HAS NO CONTROL OF ITS OWN
DESTINY, AND THEY WISH TO HAVE A TAXING DISTRICT WHICH INCLUDES JUST
ROSELAND.
ATTORNEY COLLINS INFORMED HIM THAT THE CONCEPT OF THE TWO
DISTRICTS IS TO TRY AND GET UNIFORMITY OF EQUIPMENT, AND IF MANY
SEPARATE DISTRICTS ARE SET UP WITHIN EACH CONCLAVE WITHIN THE COUNTY,
YOU WILL HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF DUPLICATION WHICH WILL COMPOUND EXPENSES,
THE BOARD IS TRYING TO SET THIS UP IN A WAY THAT WILL BE FOR THE
BEST INTERESTS OF THE WHOLE COUNTY.
MR. WARD STATED THAT THE NORTH COUNTY EQUIPMENT IS DIFFERENT
BECAUSE IT IS OFF-ROAD EQUIPMENT, AND HE DID NOT BELIEVE THERE IS ANY
DUPLICATION.
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT EXPLAINED THAT ONE REASON FOR SPLITTING
INTO NORTH COUNTY AND SOUTH COUNTY FIRE DISTRICTS IS BECAUSE THE NORTH
COUNTY IS ALL VOLUNTEER, HE WAS CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE NORTH
COUNTY IS COST OF FIRE PROTECTION BY HAVING A NORTH COUNTY DISTRICT
WHICH WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE SOUTH COUNTY,
MR. WARD NOTED THAT THE PROPOSED RATE 'IS AN OVERALL RATE.
CHAIRMAN WODTKE COMMENTED THAT AN 18 MILLION DOLLAR TAX
BASE WILL RAISE ABOUT $12,000, AND ROSELAND'S SHARE IN THIS BUDGET
YEAR IS $44,000.
$7,000,
MR. WARD STATED THAT THEY ARE ONLY REQUESTING
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CHAIRMAN WODTKE FELT THAT ROSELAND IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE
TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR NEEDS WITH ONE TRUCK, AND MR. WARD NOTED THEY
HAVE RECIPROCAL ARRANGEMENTS. THE CHAIRMAN REMINDED HIM THAT THOSE
HAVE TO BE FUNDED ALSO.
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT POINTED OUT THE ROSELAND'S BUDGET
REQUESTS JUST LOOKS AT ONE YEAR, AND -THERE IS VERY LITTLE CAPITAL
OUTLAY OR MAINTENANCE INCLUDED IN IT SINCE'THEIR TRUCK IS RELATIVELY
NEW. MORE THAN THAT WILL BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE.
MR. WARD FELT THAT -WHEN THE SHOPPING CENTER IS INCLUDED
IN THEIR TAX BASE, AND WITH THE RATE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, THE
BASE WILL INCREASE TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT THEY NEED. HE STATED THAT
HE MAINLY CAME TO THIS -MEETING TO GET INFORMATION AND ASKED IF' THERE
IS ANY WAY THEY CAN ESTABLISH ROSELAND AS A TAXING DISTRICT SINCE
THEY CANNOT INCORPORATE UNDER STATE LAW,
ATTORNEY COLLINS DID NOT FEEL THAT IT IS FEASIBLE WITHIN
THIS YEAR TO SET UP SUCH A DISTRICT, BUT STATED THAT IT IS FEASIBLE
TO SET ONE UP.
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT INFORMED MR. WARD THAT THEY WOULD HAVE
TO PETITION THE COMMISSION TO SET UP SUCH A DISTRICT, AND THE COM-
MISSIONERS MUST DECIDE IF THEY FEEL IT IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF
THE COUNTY. IN ADDITION, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WOULD HAVE
TO BE THE GOVERNING BOARD OF THE DISTRICT.
MR. WARD WAS OF THE OPINION THAT AS A SEPARATE DISTRICT, THEY
WOULD HAVE MORE IMPORTANCE AND MORE CLOUT.
ATTORNEY COLLINS FELT IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL IF
MR, WARD WOULD ATTEND THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON THE FIRE DISTRICTS,
AND COMMISSIONER SIEBERT SUGGESTED THAT HE STUDY THE MINUTES OF THE
NORTH COUNTY FIRE DISTRICT MEETINGS.
CHAIRMAN WODTKE STATED HE DID NOT WANT TO MISLEAD MR. WARD.
HE NOTED THERE IS A VOTE COMING UP ON THE NORTH COUNTY DISTRICT IN
MARCH, AND HE WOULD CERTAINLY FEEL THAT THERE WILL BE A POSITIVE VOTE.
IF THAT IS SO, THEN THERE WILL BE ONE TAXING DISTRICT IN THAT ENTIRE
NORTH COUNTY AREA, AND HE FELT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO DELETE ONE
AREA.
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COMMISSIONER SIEBERT AGAIN ENCOURAGED MR. WARD TO COME TO
THE STUDY GROUP MEETINGS AND HEAR WHAT IS BEING SAID ABOUT THE FIRE
DISTRICTS. HE DID NOT FEEL ROSELAND WOULD LOSE ITS REPRESENTATION.
MR. WARD STATED THAT THEY HAVE BEEN OUTVOTED MOST TIMES,
AND THEY ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND A WAY IN WHICH ROSELAND CAN DEVELOP
A MORE EQUITABLE SITUATION AND ONE WHICH WILL CONSIDER THE WISHES OF
THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA.
C. E. YODER OF ROSELAND STATED THAT THE MORE HE SEES, THE
LESS HE FEELS THAT THE GRASS ROOTS ARE GETTING MUCH ATTENTION, AND
THEY ARE WHAT MADE THIS COUNTRY. HE FELT THE PEOPLE IN THE ROSELAND
AREA ARE DUE A LITTLE CONSIDERATION; THEY TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN
THEIR COMMUNITY, AND THEY DON T NEED HIGH RISE EQUIPMENT. MR. YODER
STATED THAT IT HAS BEEN A BATTLE TO GET ANYTHING MUCH IN THAT END OF
THE COUNTY.
COMMISSIONER SIEBERT INFORMED HIM THAT IF WE HAD A BUDGET
ESTABLISHED FOR THE NORTH COUNTY AND THE SOUTH COUNTY, THE NORTH COUNTY
BUDGET WOULD BE $66,000 AND THE SOUTH COUNTY WOULD BE OVER ONE MILLION.
NO ONE FURTHER WISHED TO SPEAK, AND ON MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
SIEBERT, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LYONS, THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY CLOSED
THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CHAIRMAN WODTKE ANNOUNCED THAT A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON
THIS SAME MATTER WILL BE HELD SEPTEMBER 27TH AT 5:01 O'CLOCK P.M.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, ON MOTION MADE, SECONDED
AND CARRIED, THE BOARD ADJOURNED AT 6:00 O'CLOCK P.M.
ATTEST:
CLERK CHAIRMAN
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