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JULY 16, 2003
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JULY 16, 2003
July 16, 2003
SPECIAL MEETING OF BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County, Florida, met in
Special Session at the County Commission Chambers, 1840 25th Street, Vero Beach, Florida, on
Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 10:00 a.m. Present were Kenneth R. Macht, Chairman; Caroline
D. Ginn, Vice Chairman; and Commissioners Fran B. Adams, Thomas S. Lowther, and Arthur
R. Neuberger. Also present were James E. Chandler, County Administrator; William G. Collins
II, County Attorney; Assistant Administrator Joe Baird; Budget Manager Jason E. Brown; and
Patricia "PJ" Jones, Deputy Clerk. (Patricia Ridgely, Deputy Clerk — afternoon session)
CALL TO ORDER
The Chairman called the meeting to order.
INVOCATION & PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Ginn gave the Invocation.
Commissioner Lowther led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
GENERAL OVERVIEW BY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR JAMES
CHANDLER
County Administrator James Chandler gave a brief overview of the proposed
Budget and advised that staff will be glad to answer any questions.
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GENERAL FUND
Jim — overview — hold line taxes and fees — 2 factors impacting — personnel
expenses and mixed revenue picture — page 2 highlights — page 6 — Article V partial year
implementation reflected in our budget for 3 months decrease in expense and decrease in
revenue and half cent sales tax - full impact next year — impact this year 39,000 decrease in
revenue — page 9 — increase related to interfund transfers — $1.3 million tied to MSTU transfers
sheriff and transportation —North County Pool revenue 69,000 more than projected — page 10 —
transportation — ESD page 11 — environmentally sensitive land page 11 — SWDD page 12 — spec
rev and capital projects page 12 — shooting range — golf — bldg — utilities — pg 13 — self insurance
pg 14 — very quick overview
Commissioner Neuberger - cap on workers compensation
Administrator Chandler - won't affect us — will take a period of time to kick in —
significant help — as time progresses
Commissioner Ginn - suggestion lot of things quickly people came in after time
stick to time schedule take a break
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird notified people to be half an hour ahead
Commissioner Adams - no decisions today — they can address on issue if we have
passed it
Commissioner Macht - suit everyone
Administrator Chandler - this morning depts. — this afternoon outside
Administrator Chandler - proceed general fund page 17 and 18 (A1625 — 10:24)
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
COUNTYATTORNEY
JULY 16, 2003 2
Will salaries — decrease and deputy position which has not been filled — 21,000 75% will
be eliminated — come down a little
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - recalculate today or tomorrow
Administrator Chandler - suggest end of basic and Board give increase and decrease
suggestions and factor in at that time (Clerk's Note: Actually set out on handout by staff and
approved at end of 7/17/03 session.)
COMMUNI CA TIONS/EMERGENCY SER VICE
MAINLIBRARY
MEDICAID
Administrator Chandler - probably see major increases following year
NORTH COUNTYLIBRARY
IRC SOIL AND WATER CONSER VA TION
Administrator Chandler - decrease snook tag — used for best management practices
50,000 not used yet — not rec'd
David Gunter - Appreciate opportunity =- I cannot see how County is lumping
grant monies in with County budget — totally separate from budget =- flow thru Finance but not
included in budget request
Administrator Chandler - when grant comes in reflected in that department — see
same in FPL grant — receive grant and shown as expense in department =- another BMP 250,000
from St. Johns — ag department
Not so sure I understand shows decrease in budget which you may or may not be
aware — established to give local control and guidance for federal programs national resource and
JULY 16, 2003
conservation services tech division assists age div in design of water control and irrigation =-
local conservation through local working group establish priorities where we want cost share
monies to be applied have met with you to be aware where we want monies to be applied federal
government have moved — leaves us with work load increase and manpower shortfall =- 250,000
3 year grant people receiving money have to contribute money to improve discharge Lagoon and
St. Johns River we have administered 1 year of money comes thru snook tag comes back to
county — we got 50,000 grant last year all of cost share practices have to be implemented —0
county had hired stormwater extension agent she got us started —0 we got in the middle of it and
stormwater agent quit and left it up to our staff who is county employee to finish contracts get
money in field and check to make sure practices installed - he put in excess of 200 hrs unpaid —
district staff had to do this — our budget proposal was for designation change — more and more
work with grants and hope we can continue to pursue them — clean up river — info I gave you you
can see federal government brought 180,000 in cost share money — snook tag 37,000 — FDAC
money also came in — legislature intent to make BMP programs — side benefit presumption of
compliance — as you can see federal government 180,000 and District 287,000 so soil and water
conservation more money and it appears that will proceed — (David Gunter?) we will continue to
get 250,000 for this year and next year and will have to administer — no cost to county — fronted
60,000 so that when county receives bills they submit to Florida Dept. of Ag and get reimbursed
— both also included education and equipment — snook grant had 4,000 in equipment and the
FDAC had 10,000 that came to District for equipment did not come from county's budget =-
recommend additional person to be more in line with responsibility and compensated for
additional time — when you add the cost share dollar with contribution of landowner and add in
what the taxpayer would pay for private services 966,000 environmental benefit to the county for
which county expended 142,000 — we are doing good job — Board members not compensated
because programs important — request revisit this any way give us additional person and give Jim
change in designation and 5% or 12,500 a yr — we approached county for salary increase for Jim
and county said no salary — 42 pond designs a year planning charges $100 permit fee — some
companies charge $700 for engineering fee — raise to $800
JULY 16, 2003 4
Commissioner Ginn - how much
Gunter $100 District gets none — it would cost $800 for engineering firm — if you
include in permit fee would offset part of cost of position
in mind
David Gunter Indian River Soil and Conservation (states his name & affiliation)
Commissioner Lowther - where is it held
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - MSTU — passing cost on to consumer — keep
Commissioner Ginn - basically for affidavit of exemption
David Gunter - not in viable ag and want pond permit
Commissioner Ginn -
David Gunter - last year 42 more and more every year
Commissioner Adams - cost of those using it
Administrator Chandler - expense of additional position we eliminated value
about 52,000 additional position and upgrade — made our recommendation to cut that position
and cut —
Commissioner Lowther - we do the 44 ponds
Administrator Chandler - value of that additional position is about 52,000 as well
as handle the other —
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - 56,576 — cannot raise because of grant — we
don't do that as a policy — soil district charges 12,500 administrative fee on grant which we don't
get — they get the grant and we pay all operating fees
David Gunter - we were to receive administrative fee — first year of grant — our
staff member did not get compensated for his overtime — trying to figure out way to pay him —
funnel thru county back to him
Commissioner Adams - before Jimmy did administration of grant who did that —
who would do it normally
David Gunter - would have to be staff —
Commissioner Adams - give me a title who would handle
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David Gunter - District Board member — federal employee that you supply —
hand shake with federal employee
Commissioner Adams - he would handle grant
Dg fed employee should not admin state money — oversees fed cost sharing —
Commissioner Adams - who runs your office — basically a title change
David Gunter - salary based on raise and title change
Commissioner Adams - does salary go down because grant not received
David Gunter - Clair Nichols never worked for county
Administrator Chandler - 56,000 would have to come out of general fund
Commissioner Adams - take note of what is being requested and when we get
thru
Administrator Chandler - look at tax budget this year — we have to find a way to
get job done with people we have
Commissioner Adams - different what we are talking about but I hear what you
are saying can't solve it right now this is important job with grants is priority
David Gunter - just wanted to make presentation =- told Jim and Joe both I
would lobby you — I understand but wanted you to know good job to taxpayers and if you can
see fit at least get Jim a salary and title commensurate with responsibility
Commissioner Neuberger - justifiable items in budget — they do a big job in
county — we can find 50,000 we ought to do it
Commissioner Macht - resume
LAW LIBRARY
Side A 1625 at 10:24
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - salary main thing —
Commissioner Adams - what is salary seems like big increase
Administrator Chandler - part is health insurance and workers compensation
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Budget Manager Jason E. Brown - 41,000 for that position — rest in benefit
20,000 — 40,000 in books and office supplies
subscriptions
Commissioner Adams - aren't we more online
Budget Manager Jason E. Brown - still have to pay for online services and
Joe - Article V - big decision next year - don't know if cost goes away - we may
not be able to charge fees next year so we'll lose about 35,000 year - so whole thing may change
- will cost us more next year
Commissioner Adams - increase include new person in north county library
ADMINISTRATOR - OPERATIONS
GENERAL SER VICES
HUMANRESOURCES
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - all benefit double digits workers comp 40%
majority - all benefit line items
Administrator Chandler - no expenses related to additional positions most all
related to benefits — some capital outlay
VETERANS SER VICE
EMERGENCYMANAGEMENT
PARKS
HUMAN SER VICES
JULY 16, 2003 7
AG EXTENSION
YOUTH GUIDANCE
PURCHASING
BUILDINGSAND GROUNDS
OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET
Go to side B — 11:02
FPL GRANT EXPENDITURES
EMERGENCYBASE GRANT
COMPUTER SER VICES
INSURANCE PREMIUMS
COUNTYANIMAL CONTROL
MAILROOM/SWITCHBOARD
WATERSHED ACTIONPROGRAM
JULY 16, 2003 8
FDA CS CITRUS BMP GRANT
Administrator Chandler - current year 2 year accumulation — next year
PROBATION
MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING UNIT (M.S.T.U.1
page 21 — 11:06 — side B at 3112
RECREATION
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
COUNTYPLANNING
CODE ENFORCEMENT
PARKS
TELECOMMUNICA TIONS
TAX COLLECTOR
F-WITIYA
Frank Coffey 1200 Admirals Walk Taxpayers Assn Pres — clarification — Main,
North County, Law Library — Gifford part of library system entitled to funds to assist them in
operation —0 asked for 77,000 — issue recreation concerned —0 general fund 19902000 — seems to
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me need to have breakdown or have similar to revenue source because as I understand it and in
general comments expenditures for north county 734,798 revenue of 152,000 — keep revenue
question records of expenditures — same for Gifford Pool 262,000 expense — consider accounting
enterprise fund better handle on cost later on discussion about south county park and pool and
accounting would help
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - government cannot account as enterprise
funds because you have to have fees to cover entire costs never anticipated fees to cover that —
lucky to get 25% of operating cost and we think we will meet or exceed over time — never told
anyone it would pay for itself it is recreation facility cannot classify as enterprise fund — check
with Jeff Barton's office — recreation to improve quality of life in county
Administrator Chandler - athletic programs fees only pay for a portion - not
unique to us true anywhere
Commissioner Adams - frank concerned about expenses
Administrator Chandler - expenses reflects pool — personnel capital outlay
materials etc
Frank Coffey - not suggested classify just suggesting accounting — estimated cost
as far as tracking revenue
Administrator Chandler - by source and location — anticipate 152,000 —
Frank Coffey - seems to me monthly report at present time you issue revenue but
no specifics as expenditures - know how expenditures go up and down
Administrator Chandler - as example each month reports those 4 expenses versus
revenues about 2-3 weeks on shooting range, golf, etc.
Frank Coffey - I have been getting copies show revenue not expenses — seems to
me better handle
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - point out operating costs less than initially
thought —
Commissioner Neuberger - question about Gifford library
Administrator Chandler - not funded Gifford library - address this afternoon —
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Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - agency request — not facility — library drops
off books at Gifford youth activity center they run that center agency
Commissioner Macht approaching becoming branch library for purposes of this
budget year
Commissioner Ginn - branch library in facility owned by
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - they have a long term lease
Commissioner Macht - we are providing computer services through fiber optics
Commissioner Ginn - recreation dept take over
Administrator Chandler - summer recreation program we coordinate
Commissioner Ginn - some salaries that relate to programs
Commissioner Macht - resume
TRANSPORTATION FUND
11:20 — side B @ 2560
ROAD AND BRIDGE
PUBLIC WORKS
COUNTYENGINEERING
TRAFFIC ENGINEERING
EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT (ESD)
Side B @ 2463 — 11:22
JULY 16, 2003 11
FIRE DEPARTMENT
ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT
AGGREGATE MILLAGE
Side B at 1866
Bruce Anderson - 926 28th Ave county employee 16 year firefighter — rate
increase on retirement — more expensive along with increase health increase — another $30
increase - $35 - $132.50 — is that difference between what we are absorbing
Administrator Chandler - what county — our total expense fire and ALS amts to
$142,000,000 as well as salary —
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - health insurance - 60% for county not
employee cost $1,038,300 in ESD health $206,400 to the taxpayer over last year — national
problem — Wall St. Journal — our increase last national average 16% - County's trust fund pays
over $10,000,000 — part of the cost benefit all facing today
Bruce - echo concern- national problem — showing increase for fire and ALS —
question was employees increase $35 monthly — does this offset difference what we are paying
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - $1,007,000 — employee paying other
$1,400,000 — county paying a lot more than employee — probably paying lowest we conducted
survey — anticipated increase — included in union contract
Jason - County's portion $85.00 month
Bruce - other question couple new vehicles — don't see additional staffing
Commissioner Lowther - special training required
Bruce - question was larger type of apparatus — which is good — 3 people on it — is
that what we are doing
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - yes
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Station # 1
Bruce - we have larger at Station 41 and it only has 2 people on it — 2 people at
Emergency Services Director John King - replacing engine at Station 48 get rid of
very old vehicle truck for truck replacement no additional staff — only 2 people on ladder truck in
Vero Beach does not respond by itself in Sebastian responds by itself
Bruce - it does in respect to keeping staff — reduced capability not sure about hose
also can reach high places question I have logically we have 100 ft at Station # 1 with 2 people —
aerial; ladder in north county with 3 people and you don't have elevated platform — need — have
concerns
Administrator Chandler - sit down w chief and
Bruce - food for thought it is a big truck
Commissioner Adams - work through with department — chief and John need to
advocated — if
Commissioner Lowther - Station 41 has another vehicle with it
Director King - correct — total of 5 — don't have high rise in north county
Bruce - my point is it is a large piece of equipment — staffing improves overall
safety
STATE PROPOSED AGGREGATE MILLAGE
Side B-1866
ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND ACOUISITION BOND
Commissioner Macht - saved taxpayers very very large sum of money — thanks
staff
NON -DEPARTMENTAL
JULY 16, 2003 13
Side B-1797
STATE AGENCIES
NEWHORIZONS OF THE TREASURE COAST. INC.
Commissioner Ginn - New Horizons cut out outpatient services for children
remove 76,000 from this budget and put it toward out patient psychiatric services - Karen Degel
and Dr. Dean here — my memo — assessment plan done for children's services =- cannot blame
committee — desire of Jean Kline due to death of father and myself we do something to address
this problem remove 76,000 from this budget add to children's services
Dr. Dean center emotional and behavior health — Raymond executive director
psych 20 years child and adolescent as leading 2 different psychiatric hospital past 10 years
working living IRC feel for needs grossly underserved in that area in 10 years gained only 1
child Dr. Judy Lerner Dr. Mercedes former gone into retirement — not accepting new patients —
population growing led to increase in demand various facilities only 2 New Horizons and center
— New Horizons outpatient center shut down and nothing was done to replace that need now
need even greater — we have outpatient services approximately 380 patients waiting list over 2
months growing every day can only do small piece am basically full dire situation heard about
possibility of monies of appropriated community desperately needs —0 many desperately alcohol
and drug rehabilitation longer term care most vehemently outpatient emotion AD/HD bipolar
basic family and school problems needs made in part by family and pediatricians uncomfortable
waters propose I would gladly take on responsibility of finding person 76,000 would pay for 12
hours per week tremendous help fill about 50% of gap maybe more I would be glad to work with
Dr. Leger for solutions or keep her and recruit new doctor would desperately like to bring new
JULY 16, 2003 14
Commissioner Ginn - stress Dr. Woodley District 15 will provide augment
position — psychotherapist cannot provide medication — please next year consider something else
under children's services
Commissioner Macht - additional info Children's Services allocation is 1.25 mills
annually RFP was put out for this year had 76,500 set aside for contract applicant failed to show
up at interview funds not allocated unsure process hope to set money aside and put under Ms.
Kline's jurisdiction and she could contract with service so funding is available under that
category as well as subtract from new horizons
Commissioner Ginn - did contact Dr. Holtzclaw they want to go to CEBH
Commissioner Macht - just addressing source of funding — hear this from all that
this is number 1 problem — CCCR woefully inadequate
Commissioner Macht DEFER UNTIL ENTIRE PROCESS
Dick Mills - interim chief exec New Horizons 3212 memory lane Dr. Dean
correct what he said point out couple of thing reduce current funds by any amount would
necessity further reductions in our staff good to know services that were discontinued were
losing money — 43,000 plus 15,000 to serve 4 counties were discontinued — message went out no
longer serve children we do serve on site just don't do psychotherapeutic very expensive to
provide
Commissioner Ginn - critical element
Dick - don't disagree but I do disagree with taking money away from New
Horizons
Commissioner Ginn - ask questions did I read that you did not use 1 mil of
funding
Dick - they overspent if anything — not using money 40,000 craft program plus
about 15,000
Commissioner Ginn - district director has moved money from some areas —
management audit is not pretty long way to go
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medications —
Dick agree with you — take away 135,000 that we use to buy psychotropic
Commissioner Ginn - my understanding is you got over 400,000
Dick we got 73,000 from State of Florida for medications
Commissioner Ginn - majority Medicare
Dick less than 2% private pay few on Medicare — private to CEBH
Commissioner Macht - fair to say organizational problems in last year — intensive
effort to reorganize and get moving — catastrophic only game in town and services badly needed
— at any rate we will consider 76,000
STATE HEAL THDEPAR TMENT
Side B @ 861 — 11:54
STATE FOREST SER VICE
TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL
ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL BOARD
CIRCUIT COURT- JUDGES
Joe — Article V — only funding through July — then thru Article V
COUNTY COURT - JUDGES
VICTIMS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM
STATE ATTORNEY
JULY 16, 2003 16
PUBLIC DEFENDER
COURT REPORTING
Joe - this will also go away next year
MEDICAL EXAMINER
Dr. Middleman Medical Examiner for District increase is at recommendation of
college approved by St. Lucie County bulk 50,000 compensated refund employees have over 10
years with office if they retire they need money for compensated leave — policy of IRC if they
leave
Joe we don't create on — they don't have cap — he could come midyear — last year
had 25% increase
Dr. because of survey
Joe what happens if they don't retire — if they retire they could come back
An line by line all these items — look at page or dept if they have a question — I
don't need them to read
Commissioner Ginn - nice for public
Commissioner Neuberger - Chandler told me to say that
Recess to 1:30
4B365 — 12:01
side B 279 12:02
LUNCH BREAK BACK AT 1:30
Reconvene at 1:30 p.m. Begin side 4C-001
All present from morning session except Commissioner Adams who arrived at 1:41 p.m.
JULY 16, 2003 17
Commissioner Macht - Turn off cell phones
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird last year & this year Goes thru each account total
210516 + vets = 256516 cap on agencies (policy pool of dollars)
Commissioner Ginn - KIRB?
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird funded thru SWDD recommending zero
Commissioner Ginn - wants to revisit that
CULTURAL COUNCIL OFIRC
DEAF SER VICE CENTER
GIFFORD SATELLITE LIBRARY
Commissioner Neuberger — Gifford Satellite Library? Wants to approve their request
Commissioner Ginn - against private libraries wants regional libraries. Cast off books
Commissioner Neuberger - thinks it should be considered a regional
Commissioner Ginn - problem with the $s but other areas (neighborhoods) will want too
Commissioner Macht - what is the request?
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - when contracted with them, anything else will
reduce what they get, if we fund staff, it will reduce another part requesting 2 staff members.. no
staff now funded for their library. We now give $125,000 by agreement. If give more, then
need to reduce elsewhere.
the rest.
Commissioner Macht - Carter Hopkins gave assurances their organization will provide
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - now have regional, will have to go to neighborhood
libraries ... they now have fiber optics.
JULY 16, 2003 18
Bobbi Howard Davis executive director Gifford Youth Activities Center — request was
done in good faith to open the Gifford library, part of agreement with that we would submit for
half books, more than 1/2 is — now have only 500 books as a gift from a book company. Fiber
optics hooked up ... Commissioner Adams in at 0729 1:41 Dm ... would like to have you
reconsider. Yes, Mr. Hopkins said we would use one of the staffers for the library. Need
additional person to keep it open all the same time to be part of the library system & have
adequate staffing. ..
Commissioner Macht - question to t frame to report on the library board's position.
General Services Director Tom Frame re memo of understanding entered into ... PLAB
recommended approval of MOU & Gifford folks never executed it. Had a conversation with
Mrs. Davis and they are waiting to sign till outcome of this meeting. He had anticipated that the
MOU would have been back before this.
Commissioner Macht several conflicts operating, book collection from head librarian
as a minimum standard & some furniture & another collection & hookup to fiber optics. Then
the Bd rejected it to bring back as a line item. We put ourselves here and we need to deal with it.
Frank Coffey 1200 Admirals Walk, member of PLAB, and he raised the issue and was
told yesterday, it would be part of the Library system. Getting ready to talk about another library
out west and should have a branch in Gifford so kids can learn to read & write & recommends
they be given some money. (part of the Library system)
Commissioner Macht - Library is an enrichment tool. Taken back that there's not a full
understanding and it need to be developed and understood and the disposition of funding here.
Report back from PLAB recommendation. How they want to consider this library.
library.
Commissioner Lowther - needs to come under the Library budget if it's going to be a
Commissioner Macht - librarian has developed a system how to run the libraries —
recommends tentatively funding and report at final budget session.
Commissioner Ginn - thinks it needs to be moved to library.
JULY 16, 2003 19
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird — this is an outside agency here. Not under our — they
submitted an outside request.
Administrator Chandler — under Our Library system or different .. it depends on the
level of service and who's in charge of the operations.
Commissioner Neuberger - then needs to be on Library budget.
Commissioner Macht - get back to PLAB and new name Deal with it at the end —
Commissioner Ginn - thinks Library should be under BCC's direction, it has to be 1
thing or another.
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - announces next ones — old amt & new amt
HOMELESS ASSISTANCE CENTER
NEW HORIZONS IN -JAIL SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT
PROGRESSIVE CIVIC LEAGUE OF GIFFORD
SUBSTANCEABUSE COUNCIL OFIRC
TEEN CHALLENGE OF VERO BEACH
TREASURE COAST HOMELESS SERVICES COUNCIL, INC.
KEEP INDIANRIVER BEAUTIFUL (K.I.R.B. )
Joel Tyson 22 N. Mulberry St., Fellsmere ... Agrees that KIRB belongs in non-profit -
goes thru a handout (was received/is on file) with all the time & $s & tons of trash & $ benefit
to the community. If we go away, the Front Porch grant will have to be returned to the State.
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I've been a part of this since 1998 challenging other groups to help with the cleanup. Same areas
cleaned up each time 4 x per yr. Phenomenal amount of trash collected.
Commissioner Neuberger - need to leave it in;
Commissioner Lowther - agrees; CONSENSUS to leave it in.
OUASI-NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS
COMMUNITY TRANSPORTATION COORDINATOR (INDIANRIVER
COUNTY COUNCIL ON AGING. INC.)
COMMUNITY TRANSPORTATION COORDINATOR FTA GRANTS
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION
(Clerk's Note: See below)
GIFFORD YOUTH CENTER
HUMANE SOCIETY OF VERO BEACH & IRC. FL.. INC.
CHOOSE LIFE LICENSE PLATE PROGRAM
CARENET PREGNANCY CENTER
CHILDREN'S SERVICES
Side C -1880 (after KIRB)
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird
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Commissioner Ginn - not taking issue with these listed, however, now doing Cultural
Council and thinks its getting out of hand. Healthy Start has $900,000 - we have real needs in
the community, under children's services, have to be taken care of before the "nice to have"
programs... need to take care of the critical needs. Mentioning it now. Next year it's got to be
different.
Commissioner Macht - children's services prevention and Cultural Council is summer art
camp, sounds like a "nice to do" but has more serious implications of dealing with children and
making a difference. Element of therapy built in. expert recommends these (at -risk) children to
the programs.
Commissioner Ginn - lot of $.
Commissioner Macht - a lot of children, too.
Deal with it later.
Clerk's Note: It was decided to continue without a break and go back to an item if a
speaker wished to speak
Side C at 2134 2:07
CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS
CLERK OF CIRCUIT COURT - JEFFREY K. BARTON
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird reads it at 2:07 pm 42149 on C (scheduled for 3:15
p.m.) (Clerk's note: See later in the meeting.)
JULY 16, 2003 22
TAX COLLECTOR - CHARLES SEMBLER
Trying to estimate at 2:08 (Clerk's Note: See later in the meeting.)
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - thinks should pay for garbage collection
PROPER TYAPPRAISER - DA VID C. NOL TE
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - at 2:08 p.m.
Notice from the State, varied
SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS - KAY CLEM
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - at 2:09 p.m.
Commissioner Ginn - they didn't sharpen their pencils
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - we asked them and they cut.
Have the non -profits been told?
At 2:10 — Commissioner Macht
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION
Penny Chandler (2300 on side C) — we are after KIRB Wanted to point out that in the
request, the amount, $11,561 difference - when it was put together in the winter had to figure
what programs we will have to perform, "commerce park", included programs going directly
into that commerce park will have to have marketing & advertising & printing costs in it, let you
know it was based on real costs & quotes we received. Those are the only areas that are
increase. Also good to point out, that Indian River County had not gotten a serious hit with the
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economy but in last 6-8 weeks serious hits locally. Business community contributions hit first
for all non -profits ... advertising increases, dues money also down, those things are impacting
Indian River County - she requests to work with Jason or Joe so we can make adjustments later
to make it work. No problems with that an & cg & others?
Frank Coffey re cultural council — noticed under Tourist Development budget increased
229,
Joe answers about the cultural council and they got highest rating of all the agencies and
those costs are in area of attracting tourist and is another part of the budget. 42590 @ 2:17 pm
$60,000 is ....
Commissioner Macht institutionally budgeted multi -
An 27 sub funds
Commissioner Macht invited Tax Collector to make his presentation at this time
TAX COLLECTOR - CHARLES SEMBLER
Side "C" @ 4220 approximately 2:20 pm
Charlie Sembler — rebuilt the office, reduced turnover, 99.7% collected old taxes and
contacted the people who are on payment plans, just chasing $57,000 left. — project to return
$1.64 million which helps and is due to collection efforts. Board gave them the tools to revamp,
getting back collections caught up. Software, great baseline, balances and extremely accurate.
How accelerate cleanup of old software. His office is cost effective & efficient but not perfect.
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - it's all included in the budget (this one) —
Tax Collector Charles W. Sembler — we keep in touch and keep consistent with the
overall policy of the County. Stay in touch with Assistant Administrator Joe Baird and
Administrator Chandler.
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GIFFORD YOUTH ACTIVITY CENTER
Freddy Woolfork (2:24 pm @ 2856 on C — on Gifford Youth Activity center parent
youth activity program (handout we didn't get) letter to Commissioners — take a look at this
program and hope you'll se it's made a diff. Worthwhile investment — admit shock when denied
funding & can't understand why he takes full responsibility if not submitted correctly, but
doesn't want children & parents to suffer. GYC has many programs — positive difference —
asking you many times for $ for these programs. 6 year program successes.
Joe hand out something (Jason doing handing)
Joyce not here
Commissioner Adams — committee was set up
Clerk of Court Jeffrey K. Barton entered Chambers
CLERK OF COURT - JEFFREY K. BARTON
Question about credit card machine
Jeff — no credit card machine — explained why he cannot afford the cost — tried for ATM
in the building. Clerk to Board $1,605,163 a $19,637 increase and County Court 9 months only
a/o 7/1 there will be funding changes
Fran out at 2:33 — Side C @ 3206
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ARTICLE V
Commissioner Macht - what are revenues from the State
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird - sales tax down Article V; $7 million, revenue sharing
up and explains how,
Administrator Chandler - Article V affected us — Legislature — Joe not sure about Article
V yet. Interest rates are down, $650,000 overall; tourist income down, mixes bag of decreases.
year.
Commissioner Macht - some of the children's services due to State cuts.
(go over to "D" side of tape)
Administrator Chandler - including Medicare and Medicaid and pushed back to next
Commissioner Macht - many unfunded mandates. Dangerous time is when Legislature
in session.
Clerk's note: The Board decided to take some of the items from the next day's agenda.
STREET LIGHTING DISTRICTS
Side D @ 3237 — 2:36 p.m.
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird advised all same as last year and announced each one.
MISCELLANEOUS FUNDS
Side D @ 3138 — 2:38 p.m.
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird announced each item on the agenda; commented on
IRCLHAP/SHIP — new position — and METRO PLAN ORGANIZATION — Jason gave an
explanation — LAND ACQUISITION Side D @ 2970 - MULTI -JURISDICTIONAL TRUST
SP LAW ENFORCEMENT — MACE unit confiscation fund — NATIVE UPLANDS — BEACH
RESTORATION — Budget amended as necessary — FLORIDA BOATING IMPROVEMENT
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PROGRAM — DISABLED ACCESS PROGRAMS — INTERGOVERNMENTAL GRANTS —
hard to predict/pass thru to Homeless — DODGER BONDS — debt service — next year
$1,249,028/Commissioner Macht — state contribution? — Assistant Administrator Joe Baird
explains how paid —
Frank Coffey — page 52 LAAC ? maintenance on acquired properties?
Jason — maintenance & services (survey, etc.)
Joe — management plan for Lost Tree a big part
Commissioner Macht — Joyce here now
Side D at 2760 — 2:47 p.m.
GIFFORD YOUTH CENTER
Appeal on non -granting for parenting program
Joyce Johnston -Carlson — rationale - need to work on outcomes and data on what they do
makes a difference — in-home services do work — 2 agencies do this and send data — talked is
important to track and prove — sat with Bobbie & Michael & explained, but same application this
year
Frank Coffey questions & notes
Freddie Woolfork — apologies for not including info in grant application
Commissioner Adams — measure outcome
Michael Williams — explains their programs — classroom settings
Joyce not received data
Bobbie -Howard -Davis — clarification of funding — agrees sat with Joyce and worked on
goals — not in-home but classroom — teach parenting skills — bring children to the center —
partnership with IRCC — day care center certificate program
funded
Commissioner Macht — needs assessment study established in-home and that's what's
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Move to elements Board wanted to look at again
Side D @ 2000 — 3:05 p.m.
Economic Development $11,000
KIRB $30,600
Gifford Library $77,299
Soil & Water $56,000 +
New Horizons deduction of $76,000 to CEBH
Mental Health for Children Source
County Attorney's office decrease $25,809
No motion required. Staff bring back adjustments. %age? Discussion on Soil & Water
Administrator Chandler — heard all this for a month
Soil & Water — determine funding - $58,314 with all costs including benefits - discussion
2 positions, 3 funding sources, recommendation to upgrade that position
Psychiatrist- $76,000 New Horizons
Joyce — New Horizons have taken a huge cut from the State. Dissatisfied — adults & kids
services have been difficult- no Indian River County rep on the Board — Hamner is on the Board
— a problem, director resigned, looking for a new executive director- they are on the edge of
closing
Commissioner Lowther — give minimum
Commissioner Ginn — audit — poor management — remedial plan not seen — mgt changing
— new president will talk to new president — take away — must fund CEBH
Commissioner Macht — committee would have spent the money + Commissioner Ginn &
Commissioner Macht — fund the $76,-78,000
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Side D @ 1026
Administrator Chandler — another item the Gifford Library - $77,000 — go thru PLAB — be in
Library budget? Send it back to PLAB
Assistant Administrator Joe Baird — look at cutting departments or raise tax
Commissioner Macht — Gifford Library is working — Carter said they'd raise the $ - MOU
should be returned
Side D @ 715 — 3:29 pm
Bobbie -Howard -Davis — MOU states ... 1 person cannot work 8-8, before signing need to know
we can meet the obligations.
Commissioner Adams — hours, volunteers
BHD — need obligated paid staff
Commissioner Adams — needs to go to the committee — needs more info. Refer to PLAB
Commissioner Neuberger — great potential
KIRB - $30,000 Solid Waste Disposal District
Consensus to fund it — 18cents — cash fwd
Cut $11,000 — wait & see?
ENTERPRISE FUND
Law enforcement games data is being gathered by Tourist Development — we want it
SHOOTING RANGE
GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE
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FOOD & BEVERAGES
CLUBHOUSE
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
6 new positions
ENTERPRISE FUNDS
Side D @ 403 — 3:33 p.m.
UTILITIES - VARIOUS
Wastewater treatment etc — 3 new positions —
Eric Olson doing a great job
INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS
FLEET MANAGEMENT
RISK MANAGEMENT (SELF INSURANCE)
HEALTHINSURANCE
Up to $10,254,233 a 1.7 million increase of which 1.3 million is paid by the county &
rest by employees
CAPITAL PROJECTS
DODGER TOWN FACILITY
DODGERTOWN CAPITAL R ESERVE FUND
SHOOTING RANGE
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Construction
OPTIONAL ONE -CENT SALES TAX
Changes substantial
GIFFORD ROAD IMPROVEMENTS
HOMELESS ASSISTANCE CENTER
A pass thru
Side E at 3:39 pm
OLD FELLSMERE SCHOOL
Frank Coffey — page 63 on Capital Projects (1) Station 49 — any assessment done on
renovating an old building? (2) South County Park — page 3 — multi-purpose fields, pool?
Station 45 Status
Joe: computers for Election — so postponement on Station 45 — Grand Harbor
development but intend to build; Station 49 — wonders about new site or rehab — earmark it and
sometimes ballpark figure; South County park — pool? Or whatever set aside committee to
decide
Coffey: Station 45 - $ still available?
Commissioner Lowther — Station 44
Joe — nothing in budget now
Side E @610 — 3:45 p.m. evaluate 49 — site will be checked etc.
Agenda complete except for Solid Waste Disposal District public hearing scheduled for
tomorrow and the Sheriff's budget.
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Side E @ 659 — F not used
ADJOURN AT 3:47 P.M.
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