HomeMy WebLinkAbout8/18/1981TUESDAY, AUGUST 18, 1981
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF INDIAN RIVER COUNTY,
FLORIDA, MET IN SPECIAL SESSION AT THE VERO BEACH SENIOR HIGH
SCHOOL AUDITORIUM, 1707 16TH ST., VERO BEACH, FLORIDA, ON TUESDAY,
AUGUST 181 19811 AT 7:30 O'CLOCK P.M. PRESENT WERE PATRICK B. LYONS,
CHAIRMAN; WILLIAM C. WODTKE, JR., VICE CHAIRMAN; DICK BIRD; ALFRED
GROVER FLETCHER; AND DON C. SCURLOCK, JR. ALSO PRESENT WERE NEIL A.
NELSON, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR; R. STEPHEN HOULIHAN, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY
TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS; AND VIRGINIA HARGREAVES, DEPUTY
CLERK.
THE CHAIRMAN CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER,
PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED LAND USE MAP FOR INDIAN RIVER COUNTY
THE HOUR OF 7:30 O'CLOCK P.M. HAVING PASSED, THE DEPUTY CLERK
READ THE FOLLOWING NOTICE WITH PROOF OF PUBLICATION ATTACHED, TO=WIT:
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INDIAN RIVER COUNTY
NOTICE OF REGULATION OF LAND USE .--
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River
County proposes to regulate the use of land within the area
shown in the map in this advertisement.
- ?'.Public hearingsi on the proposal will be held on Tues
day, August 18, 1981, and Tuesday, September 1, 1981, at
7:30 P.M., in the Vefo Beach Senior High School, 1707 16th
Street, Vero Beach, Florida.
The Land Use Element of the proposed Comprehensive
Plan will be discussed at both hearings. The Intergovernmen-
tal Co-ordination; Housing; Utility; Sanitary Sewers, Solid
Waste, Drainage and Potable Water; Recreation; Conserve -
tion and Coastal Zone Protection and Transportation
Elements will be discussed at the September 1 hearing.
ICopies of the proposed comprehensive Plan are
available at the Indian River County Planning and Zoning
Department located at 2121 14th Avenue, Vero Beach,
Florida, at a cost of $15.
If any person decides to appeal any decision made on
the above matter, he will need a record of the proceedings,
and for such purposes, he may need to insure that a ver-
batim record of the proceedings 'is made, which record in-
cludes the testimony in evidence on which the appeal is bas-
ed.
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIO R
OF INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA
By: /s/ Patrick B. Lyons, Chairman
THE PROPOSED FUTURE
L.AHD USE MAP
The Fuldre LAnd USO Map is an M egral Part
al Ibe land Use EfarneMof the eomprepeasire
Pian for Indian River county. fn purpose is m
yesignate ex,sh'� a1M funwe W W uee paf oras
-pr foe next twenty years. These activity
pdtteTS include residential may. commereias
gsef. entluitl,dl use. institutional assets. open
apace -preservation areas, agricultural assist.
and areas with d mfxtdr86t Use
. Vrpan residonTiause
l la1,tl districts ere
sbewn on the map by bur Isopulation demur
elastel.cations. Tbese are designated as:
Low Density 1 - t0 3 units-acm
Lew Oensny 7 -too linin -acre
Med,um Density ] • to 8 unitsaere
'r Medium Densiry3•m ltonitsa<r0
pq M1CulWral mttriels are shown an 1118 map
ay Twa populatron demiry clafsiNdtroof.
'these are designated aa:
Ag,� cultural • 10 attm•1 W,Ft
R ura I -Residential • 7.5 acrac-, unH
Three areas within Athe •hare
.il.ve1aped d historical mixture o1 ratidential.
commercial and Industrial land Uses. These
areas have aeon, classified as tRixed•Use
distriCts. Within the beelldaries of these
drafricis, the existing variety, of uses would Ee
Encouraged to develop in the future.
j Furore commercial and industrial land mea
`re designated at strategic fiscatlaUs or nodes
to accommodate anticipated demand. Each
node sp—ties a general activity or ectirides
that may be exlsetted to devetop wifhfa the
j pact twenty years. Tt1@ proposed Fpture Land
Use Map also designates tha general forAUanss
of environmentally sfllslHYetMdf.,Ub..1
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CHAIRMAN LYONS WELCOMED THOSE PRESENT AND THANKED THEM
FOR BRAVING THE STORM TO ATTEND THE MEETING. HE THEN INTRODUCED
THE BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF MEMBERS AND ANNOUNCED THAT THE FOLLOWING
PROCEDURE WOULD BE FOLLOWED:
FROM: Patrick B. Lyons REFERENCES:
Chairman
AGENDA
I would like to suggest the following agenda and procedures:
1. Brief opening statement by the Chairman, followed by
2. A detailed description of the Plan by Messrs. P,ever
and Challacombe, and
3. Statements for and against the Plan by members of
the public.
PROCEDURES
All those wishing to be heard will be given cards to be
filled out as they enter the room. Representatives of groups
will be given 10 minutes to speak, and individuals will be
given 5 minutes. Representatives of groups will be heard first.
We will take a ten minute break at 9 P.M. and will adjourn
at 10 P.M.
We will indicate to the public that those who have not
been heard at this meeting, will be heard at the next one. If
that is not sufficient, we will schedule an additional public
hearing.
All the public comments will be noted and the Commission
will answer those that require an answer after the last of the
public has been heard, -and not before.
I would appreciate if you will accede to the proposed
agenda and procedures.
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CHAIRMAN LYONS INFORMED THOSE PRESENT THAT THE COMMISSION
IS HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF GATHERING INPUT FROM
THE PUBLIC. HE THEN EXPLAINED THAT WE ARE MANDATED BY LAW TO PRODUCE
A MASTER PLAN, WHICH WAS DUE JULY 1ST AND IS NOW LATE MAINLY DUE TO
THE MANY PERSONNEL CHANGES WE HAVE HAD IN THE PLANNING.DEPARTMENT FOR
VARIOUS REASONS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. THIS HAS DELAYED THE PLAN
AND CREATED THE PROBLEM OF ACCELERATING THE END CONSIDERATIONS.
CHAIRMAN LYONS REPORTED THAT THE PLAN WAS PREPARED BY OUR
IN-HOUSE PROFESSIONALS AND CONSULTANTS; THE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
HAS HAD 48 WORKSHOPS REGARDING THIS PLAN DURING THE PAST YEAR AND THE
COUNTY COMMISSION FIVE, PLUS THREE JOINT WORKSHOPS, WHICH, HE BELIEVED
HAS AFFORDED THE PUBLIC AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AWARE OF THE PLAN.
CHAIRMAN LYONS THEN REVIEWED THE FOLLOWING FACTS -
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY IS A LOW DENSITY, LOW RISE COUNTY,
BREVARD COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE, ALLOWS 30 UNITS PER ACRE MAXIMUM WITH
NO HEIGHT LIMIT ON THE BEACH; ST. LUCIE 1E PER ACRE WITH THEIR NEW
PLAN AND NO HEIGHT LIMIT; MARTIN COUNTY HAS 10 PER ACRE OR 12 WITH
A P.U.D, AND A 40' HEIGHT LIMIT; VOLUSIA COUNTY, WHICH IS ANOTHER
COASTAL COUNTY, HAS 60 UNITS PER ACRE WITH AN 115' HEIGHT LIMIT.
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY PLANS A MAXIMUM 16 PER ACRE WITH A 35' HEIGHT
LIMIT, AND THE CHAIRMAN NOTED THAT ACTUALLY VERY LITTLE HAS BEEN
DEVELOPED AT 16 PER ACRE, MOST AT A MAXIMUM OF 12, SOME OF THOSE
PRESENT TONIGHT LIVE IN VISTA ROYALE, WHICH IS ZONED 15 UNITS PER ACRE.
SOME LIVE IN APARTMENTS OR CONDOS ON THE BEACH, AND MOST OF THOSE BUILT
AFTER 1974 ARE AT 13-15 UNITS PER ACRE, IN THE COUNTY'S PROPOSED PLAN,
NO 12 OR 16 UNIT DENSITY IS PROPOSED FOR THE BEACH.
WHAT DOES THE PLAN MEAN?
IF RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS PERMITTED IN A DESIGNATED AREA, IT
CANNOT EXCEED THE STATED DENSITY; IN EXAMPLE, ANYTHING IN AN LD -1
AREA COULD NOT EXCEED 3 UNITS PER ACRE. IF ZONING EXISTS IN A CERTAIN
AREA WITH DENSITY IN EXCESS OF THAT STATED IN THE PLAN, IT MUST BE RE-
ZONED TO CONFORM WITH THE PLAN.
WHAT THE PLAN DOES NOT MEAN -
IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT ALL ZONING IN AN AREA MUST BE CHANGED
TO BE RAISED TO THE DENSITY SHOWN ON THE PLAN, I.E., IT DOES NOT
MEAN THAT AGRICULTURAL WILL NECESSARILY CONVERT TO RESIDENTIAL FOR
THE LIFE OF THIS PLAN.
FOR THE ABOVE REASONS, YOU CANNOT USE THE MAP CONTRIBUTED
BY THE BEACH ASSOCIATION AND MAKE A MEANINGFUL POPULATION ESTIMATE
USING THEIR METHODS, AND THEIR 600,000 PROJECTED POPULATION FIGURE
IS MEANINGLESS AND INACCURATE. OFFICIAL POPULATION ESTIMATES, WHICH
ARE MADE BY THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, HAVE ON THE AVERAGE BEEN
REASONABLY ON TARGET, AND THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE THEY WILL
NOT CONTINUE TO BE,
THE
UNIVERSITY
OF FLORIDA ESTIMATES A POPULATION
OF AROUND 104,000 IN
THE
YEAR 2000,
THE COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT
TAKES A MORE CONSERVATIVE VIEW AND PROJECTS 127,000 FOR THE YEAR 20r'`.
WHAT IS THE SITUATION IF WE CONTINUE WITH THE EXISTING PLAN
AND DELAY ADOPTION OF THE MANDATED PLAN?
THE 1975 PLAN, WHICH WOULD CALCULATE TO ALLOW APPROXIMATELY
ONE MILLION POPULATION USING THE BEACH CIVIC ASSOCIATION METHOD, IS
A GUIDE, AND IT MAY AND HAS BEEN IGNORED;;YOU MAY REZONE CONTRARY TO
THE PLAN WITHOUT ALSO CHANGING THE PLAN. UNDER THE i981 -MANDATED PLAN,
YOU -CANNOT REZONE AT DENSITIES IN EXCESS OF THE DENSITY SHOWN ON THE
PLAN WITHOUT ALSO AMENDING THE PLAN, AND YOU ALSO MUST REZONE HIGH
DENSITY AREAS TO BRING THEM UNDER THE MAXIMUM STATED IN THE PLAN; THIS
REQUIRES TWO SETS OF PUBLIC HEARINGS,
CHAIRMAN LYONS CONCLUDED BY POINTING OUT THAT IT IS A LEGAL
REQUIREMENT OF THE PLAN THAT IT MUST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE HOUSING
NEEDS OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY - THE RICH, THE POOR, THOSE
IN BETWEEN, THE RETIREE, AND ALL SEGMENTS OF OUR WORKING POPULATION.
THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COUNTY RANGE IN INCOME FROM THE VERY, VERY RICH
TO A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION THAT ARE BELOW POVERTY LEVEL] WITH HOUSING
THAT RANGES FROM SOME OF THE MOST ELEGANT IN THE NATION TO OVER 2,001
HOUSES THAT ARE DILAPIDATED AND SUBSTANDARD. WE HAVE A MOBILE HOME
POPULATION ABOUT EQUAL TO THE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF VERO BEACH.
CHAIRMAN LYONS EXPLAINED THAT HE POINTED OUT THESE FACTS TO EMPHASIZE
THE NEED TO CONSIDER EVERYONE WHEN WE CONSIDER THE PLAN.
INTRODUCED PLANNING DIRECTOR REVER.
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PLANNING DIRECTOR REVER CONFIRMED THAT HIS DEPARTMENT, WORKING
AS A RELATIVELY NEW STAFF, HAS HAD TO PRODUCE THE PROPOSED PLAN IN A
LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR'S TIME, AND HE BELIEVED THE 4$ WORKSHOPS MEN-
TIONED BY THE CHAIRMAN ARE INDICATIVE OF THEIR EFFORT TO TRY TO EXPOSE
THIS PLAN IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO PUBLIC SCRUTINY. HE WENT ON
TO EXPLAIN THAT THE STATE MANDATE SPELLED OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE PLAN
SHOULD CONTAIN AT A MINIMUM AND ALSO SAID THERE WERE CERTAIN OTHER
ELEMENTS IT COULD CONTAIN AS A MATTER OF CHOICE. BE CAUSE OF THE TIME
ELEMENT, THE PLANNERS BASICALLY STAYED WITH THE REQUIRED ELEMENTS;
ALTHOUGH, THERE ARE A FEW THINGS IN THE PLAN THAT WERE NOT SPECIFICALLY
REQUIRED. MR. REVER REPORTED THAT THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH THE REQUIRED
PROCESS, HELD HEARINGS, AND DONE THE RESEARCH TO TRY TO ESTABLISH HOW
THE PLAN SHOULD BE PUT TOGETHER, SENIOR PLANNER CHALLACOMBE WILL
EXPLAIN THIS PROCESS IN HIS PRESENTATION.
MR, REVER WISHED TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE PLAN PROVIDES A CHOICE;
IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IF WE DESIGNATE A PIECE OF LAND AT A CERTAIN
DENSITY THAT IT MUST ALL BE DEVELOPED AT THAT PARTICULAR LEVEL, THE
PLAN STATES "UP TO AND NOT IN EXCESS OF, HE FURTHER EXPLAINED THAT
LAND USE DESIGNATION SHOULD NOT BE CONFUSED WITH ZONING. MR. REVER
NOTED THAT IF WE WERE TO RESTRICT LAND TO ONLY A CERTAIN POPULATION,
YOU WOULD BE MAKING SOME PEOPLE VERY RICH BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE THE
POSSESSORS OF THE LAND ON WHICH ONLY ONE KIND OF HOUSING COULD TAKE
PLACE.
PLANNING DIRECTOR REVER THEN WENT TO THE MAP TO DEMONSTRATE
AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT COULD AND SHOULD COME TO PASS WITH THE PASSAGE OF
THE PROPOSED PLAN, HE EXPLAINED THAT HE CHOSE THE GIFFORD MXD (MIXED
USE ZONE) WHICH ALLOWS A MIXTURE OF HOUSING TYPES AND RESIDENTIAL UP TO
16 UNITS PER ACRE FOR HIS EXAMPLE. MR. REVER EXPLAINED THAT IN ANALYZ-
ING AN AREA THEY FIRST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT,
AND THE PINK AND BLUE AREAS ON THE MAP INDICATE THE PRESENT LAND USE -
WHETHER RESIDENTIAL, INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL OR PUBLIC USE, THE LAND
IN THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE,WHICH IS PRESENTLY DEVELOPED OR SUBDIVIDED
FOR DEVELOPMENT, CONTAINS SOME SECTIONS DEVELOPED AT A DENSITY OF R,
SOME AT 6, 5, 2 AND EVEN 1, AND IT CALCULATES TO AN OVERALL AVERAGE
DENSITY OF 5.1.
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THE NEXT STEP IS TO LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA TO SEE
WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED, AND IN THIS CASE, TO THE NORTH WE HAVE AN LD -2
ZONE NOT TO EXCEED 6 UNITS PER ACRE AND TO THE WEST LD -1 NOT TO EXCEED
3 UNITS PER ACRE, NEXT TO THAT BORDER, WE HAVE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
AT 4 AND 5 UNITS PER ACRE. TSR. REVER THEN EXPLAINED HOW THEY LAID
OUT THE PROPOSED ZONING, DESIGNATING THE OUTERMOST AREAS AT 4 UNITS
PER ACRE AND MOVING INWARD WITH 6 UNITS PER ACRE WITH THE INTENT OF
INTERNALLY BUFFERING THE LOWEST ZONING; THEN ON TO AREAS WITH S AND
12 UNITS PER ACRE AS YOU MOVE TOWARDS THE CENTRAL CORE OF THE AREA.
IN THE MIDDLE AROUND WHAT IS AN EXISTING SCHOOL AND AN APPROVED PROPOSAL
FOR 12 UNITS PER ACRE,,IS THE HIGHEST DENSITY, WHICH CAN BE 16 UNITS
PER ACRE, AND FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS PROTOTYPE IS SET AT 16 UNITS PER
ACRE, WHEN ADDING TOGETHER THE AMOUNT OF ACRES AND THE LAND USE
DENSITIES JUST SPOKEN OF, YOU ARRIVE AT A DENSITY OF S UNITS PER ACRE
FOR THE NEW AREA.: WHEN THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
IS ADDED TO WHAT IS PROPOSED, THEY CAME UP WITH A TOTAL DENSITY OF
6.36 FOR THE ENTIRE AREA. HOWEVER, IN DETERMINING THESE FIGURES,
MR, REVER POINTED OUT THAT THE VACANT SPACE (PARKS, CEMETERIES, SCHOOLS,
COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL UNITS, AREAS WHICH DO NOT GENERATE MORE HOUSING)
WAS NOT ADDED IN, WHEN THE ACREAGE OF THE OPEN SPACE WAS ADDED IN,
THEY CAME UP WITH AN OVERALL DENSITY AT TOTAL BUILD -OUT IN THE GIFFORD
MXD AREA OF 4.1 UNITS PER ACRE - NOT 161 BUT 4.1,
MR, REVER EXPRESSED THE HOPE THAT, WITH THE PRECEDING EXPLANA-
TION IN MIND, THE PUBLIC WOULD LOOK AT,THE PLAN IN THE SAME PERSPECTIVE
AS THE PLANNERS ARE LOOKING AT THE PLAN AND REALIZE THAT IT IS INTENDED
TO ALLOW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FLEXIBILITY NEEDED TO PROVIDE HOUSING
FOR EVERYONE IN AREAS WHERE ECONOMICS WILL ALLOW, HE NOTED THAT WE
ALL REALIZE THE BEACH -IS LOVELY AND THE PLAN PROVIDES FOR THE LOWER
DENSITIES TO BE THERE, WE CANNOT ALL AFFORD TO LIVE THERE, HOWEVER,
AND WE MUST TAKE CARE OF ALL THE PEOPLE..' MR. REVER BELIEVED THAT THE
PROPOSED PLAN DOES THAT.
MR. REVER INTRODUCED SENIOR PLANNER CHALLACOMBE TO REVIEW
THE ANALYSIS AND THE IMPLEMENTATION GUIDELINES WHICH THEY USED TO CREATE
THE PLAN.
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SENIOR PLANNER ART CHALLACOMBE REVIEWED THE PLANNING PROCESS
IN GENERAL, EXPLAINING THAT FIRST THEY TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE
IN TERMS OF DATA AVAILABILITY AND THE OVERALL COMMUNITY STANDARDS FOR
A DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THEY DID THAT IN TWO PHASES - FIRST, BY TAKING
A SPECIFIC STRATEGY - MANAGING GROWTH THROUGH DENSITY, I.E., DETERMINING
WHAT THE LANDS WILL ACCOMMODATE AND WHAT THEY SHOULD ACCOMMODATE
AND ESTABLISHING A SET OF PARAMETERS BY WHICH GROWTH COULD TAKE PLACE.
IN DETERMINING CARRYING CAPACITIES OF THE LAND AND DETERMINING DEVELOP-
MENT, THEY RESEARCH HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND STUDY THE EXISTING
ZONING MAP TO SEE HOW THIS RELATES TO EXISTING LAND USES. MR. CHALLACOMBE
REPORTED THAT THEY DID FIELD SURVEY THE COUNTY, AND IT IS OBVIOUS THAT
WE DEFINITELY ARE NOT AT BUILD -OUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE EXISTING LAND
USE PATTERN AND THE LAND,USE INVENTORY; MANY AREAS WHERE ZONING SET LAND
USE, THERE WAS ORDERLY GROWTH, BUT THEY FOUND MANY PLACES ALSO WHERE
WHAT WAS ZONED IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES WAS NOT ACTUALLY
HAPPENING. HE GAVE AS AN EXAMPLE NUMEROUS R-1 RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN
THE SOUTH COUNTY AREA WHERE THEY ARE BUILDING BELOW THE ALLOWED CAPACITY
OF 6 UNITS PER ACRE,
THE NEXT STEP IS TO LOOK AT FACTORS THAT WOULD CONSTRAIN
GROWTH PATTERNS, SUCH AS SOIL SUITABILITY, DRAINAGE, ADEQUATE WATER
SUPPLY, ETC. MR. CHALLACOMBE CITED AS AN EXAMPLE THE NORTH BEACH AREA
WHICH HAS A PRESENT MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 15 UNITS PER ACRE BUT WHICH HAS
NO EXISTING WATER SOURCE)AND THE WATER POTENTIAL FOR THE BARRIER ISLAND
IS QUITE POOR, HE CONTINUED THAT, ON THE OTHER HAND, ON THE SAND RIDGE
WHERE THERE IS SUFFICIENT WATER SUPPLY, THEY DID NOT WANT TO PUT THE
HIGHER DENSITIES AND CAUSE A DEGRADATION OF THE NATURAL WATER SYSTEMS.
MAN-MADE CONSTRAINTS MUST ALSO BE CONSIDERED, THE OBVIOUS EXAMPLE
BEING STATE ROAD A1A ON THE BARRIER ISLAND. AVAILABILITY OF SEWER AND
WATER SERVICE IS AN ADDITIONAL CONSTRAINT. MR, CHALLACOMBE NOTED THAT
THE COUNTY IS PRESENTLY BEGINNING TO MOVE INTO THE -SEWER AND WATER
BUSINESS, AND UPON APPROVAL OF THE 201 PLAN FOR WASTE WATER AND THE
APPROPRIATE FEDERAL FUNDING, WE CAN HAVE A MORE EXTENDED AREA FOR
THOSE TYPE OF MUNICIPAL SERVICES. THERE ARE, HOWEVER, AREAS THAT THE
COUNTY COULD NOT REASONABLY SERVE IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, AND
THESE AREAS OBVIOUSLY WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME GROWTH CAPACITY AS THE
URBAN AREAS BORDERING ON THE CITY OF VERO BEACH AND THE CITY OF
SEBASTIAN.
MR. CHALLACOMBE THEN DISCUSSED THE SYNTHESIS OF THE DATA
COLLECTED INTO POLICY, WHICH HE FELT IS REALLY THE CRUX OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HE REFERRED TO THE POLICIES SET FORTH ON PAGES 7,
42
8, 9 AND 10 OF THE PROPOSED PLAN, USING AS AN EXAMPLE THE POLICY
RELATING TO FLOOD DESIGNATIONS AND PROVIDING FOR LOWER DENSITY IN
FLOOD PRONE AREAS. MR. CHALLACOMBE NOTED THAT WHEN PUBLIC AGENCIES
CONSIDER A ZONING MATTER, THEY WILL LOOK NOT ONLY AT THE LAND USE MAP,
BUT AT THE VARIOUS POLICIES, AND HE BELIEVED THESE POLICIES WOULD
OVERRIDE THE MAP IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, THIS CONCLUDED
MR, CHALLACOMBE'S PRESENTATION.
CHAIRMAN LYONS ANNOUNCED THAT A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON
THIS MATTER WILL BE HELD AT THE SENIOR HIGH AUDITORIUM ON SEPTEMBER �.ST
AT 7;30 P.M. HE REPORTED THAT HE HAS RECEIVED THE CARDS FILLED OUT
TONIGHT AND HAS NUMBERED THEM AS THEY WERE GIVEN TO HIM; DUE TO THE
LARGE NUMBER RECEIVED, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COVER ALL OF THEM TONIGHT.
THE CHAIRMAN REQUESTED THAT WHEN A NAME IS CALLED, THAT INDIVIDUAL
COME TO ONE OF THE MICROPHONES IN THE AISLE TO MAKE THEIR REMARKS -
INDIVIDUALS BEING LIMITED TO 5 MINUTES AND THOSE REPRESENTING A GROUP
TO TEN MINUTES.
THE CHAIRMAN THEREUPON OPENED THE MEETING TO THE PUBLIC AND
CALLED CHET HOGAN.
CHET HOGAN OF 835 28TH ST. CAME FORWARD REPRESENTING A
COALITION OF CONCERNED CITIZENS AND PRESENTED A PETITION IN SUPPORT OF
THE PROPOSED PLAN SIGNED BY 250 CITIZENS. SAID PETITION IS ON FILE
IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK. MR, HOGAN STATED THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS
GROWN TO BE WHAT IT IS OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE OF CONCERNED PEOPLE, AND
IF WE WANT VERO TO CONTINUE TO BE STRONGER, WE CAN'T DO IT BY CUTTING
EVERYBODY OUT OF HERE THE WORKING PEOPLE NEED A PLACE TO LIVE; THEY
NEED JOBS. HE REPORTED THAT OUT OF THE 327 IN HIS VERO HIGH SCHOOL
GRADUATING CLASS, ONLY 43 FOUND JOBS IN THIS AREA. HE EMPHASIZED THAT
WE ALL NEED SERVICE PEOPLE AND MUST PROVIDE THEM AN AREA WHERE THEY
CAN AFFORD TO LIVE.
THE CHAIRMAN CALLED PAULA CHURCH, WHO PASSED UP HER OPPORTU-
NITY TO BE HEARD,
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DOYLE ROGERS OF ROYAL POINCIANA PLAZA, PALM BEACH, ADDRESSED
THE BOARD SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO 30 ACRES PURCHASED BY HIMSELF AND
HIS TWO BROTHERS APPROXIMATELY TEN YEARS AGO, WHICH PROPERTY HAS 3900'
OF WATER FRONTAGE ON THE NORTH END OF MARSH ISLAND BY THE WABASSO
CAUSEWAY. HE NOTED THEY HAVE BEEN PAYING TAXES ON THIS PROPERTY OVER
THESE YEARS WITHOUT ASKING FOR ANY BENEFITS FROM THE COUNTY AND EVENTU-
ALLY HOPED TO TURN IT INTO A MARINA ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, MR. ROGERS
REPORTED THAT WHEN THEY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, IT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL,
AND ALTHOUGH THEY DO NOT NEED IT AS COMMERCIAL AND DID NOT WANT IT TO
BE USED AS COMMERCIAL, THE DOWNZONING IN THE PROPOSED PLAN WOULD DIS-
SOLVE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO REGAIN WHAT THEY HAVE PUT INTO THIS
PROPERTY, HE BROUGHT UP THE POSSIBILITY OF INVERSE CONDEMNATION..''.
MR. ROGERS THEN POINTED OUT THAT THIS PROPERTY, WHICH AT THIS POINT IS
STILL COMMERCIAL, COULD HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH 5E0 UNITS; NOW IT IS
PROPOSED FOR 3 UNITS PER ACRE, AS LATE AS JUNE, HOWEVER, IT WAS PRO-
POSED FOR 6 UNITS PER ACRE, AND THEY HAVE SPENT CONSIDERABLE MONIES
IN DEVELOPING THEIR PLAN ON THAT BASIS SINCE OCTOBER OF 1980, MR.
ROGERS THEN INTRODUCED THEIR ARCHITECT, CARROL PEACOCK, AND ASKED THAT
HE BE ALLOWED TO EXPLAIN THEIR PLAN FOR MARINA DEVELOPMENT.
CHAIRMAN LYONS NOTED THAT MR, ROGERS HAD MADE HIS POINT VERY
WELL AND ASSURED HIM THAT HIS REQUEST WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY CONSIDERED
AFTER ALL PUBLIC INPUT IS RECEIVED.
ARCHITECT CARROL PEACOCK BRIEFLY DISPLAYED THEIR DEVELOPMENT
PLAN ON WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR MANY MONTHS. HE STATED THAT
THEY ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO THIS TYPE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS PLANNED TO
BE A VERY LOW KEY DEVELOPMENT WHICH WILL KEEP THE BUILDING SUBSERVIENT
TO THE SURROUNDINGS AND PRESERVE THE BEAUTY OF THE ISLAND, HE INFORMED
THE BOARD THAT HIS FIRM HAS BEEN CONCERNED WITH SUCH DEVELOPMENT AS
AMELIA ISLAND AND HILTON HEAD.
GEORGE HAYES, III, OF DELTONA CORPORATION WAS CALLED AND
PASSED HIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
NAME.
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JOHN SCHLITT, JR., ARCHITECT, LIFE LONG RESIDENT OF INDIAN
RIVER COUNTY AND PRESIDENT OF THE CONCEPT OF VERO BEACH, NEXT CAME
FORWARD AND EXPLAINED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THIS CONCERNED GROUP CONSISTS
OF INVOLVED PROFESSIONALS (ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, LANDSCAPERS) WHO ALL
ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO GROW INTO A VERY
FINE COMMUNITY, BOTH RESIDENTIALLY AND COMMERCIALLY. THEY ARE VERY
MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE LAND USE PLAN AS IT HAS BEEN PLANNED BY OUR ABLE
CONSULTANTS AND LOCAL STAFF AND FEEL THAT THE PROJECTED 127,000 POPULA-
TION FIGURE IS VERY REALISTIC.
HERBERT W, KALE, II, MEMBER OF THE PELICAN ISLAND AUDUBON
SOCIETY, SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL, EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT POTENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT OF FLOOD PLAIN AREAS IN THE COUNTY AND FAVORED LOWER
DENSITIES THAN PROPOSED BY THE PLAN. HE PARTICULARLY MENTIONED THE
FLOOD PLAIN AREA NORTH OF BARBER AVENUE.
CHAIRMAN LYONS REQUESTED THAT DR. KALE WRITE OUT THE SPECIFIC
AREAS IN WHICH HE IS INTERESTED AND GIVE THE LIST TO THE COUNTY ADMINIS-
TRATOR.
VIRGINIA DUNIGAN OF GARDENIA LANE NOTED THAT PLANNING DIRECTOR
REVER HAD BEEN QUOTED AS SAYING THAT ANY PLAN IS AN INTERIM PLAN, AND
IF THAT IS TRUE, SHE FELT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE A CONSERVATIVE PLAN
WHERE WE COULD BE ABLE TO ADD TO DENSITIES RATHER THAN HAVING TO TAKE
THEM AWAY. SHE BELIEVED ALL THE FIGURES ABOUT MIGRATION INTO FLORIDA
HAVE RELATED TO OUT-OF-STATE MIGRATION AND DID NOT FEEL THE CURRENT
TREND OF IN-STATE MIGRATION TO THIS COUNTY FROM THE WEST COAST OF
FLORIDA, MIAMI, FORT LAUDERDALE, HAS BEEN PROPERLY CONSIDERED. MRS.
DUNIGAN STATED THAT SHE WAS IN FAVOR OF CONTROLLED GROWTH, BUT IF WE
HAVE CONSTRAINTS ON GROWTH, THEY SHOULD BE ELIMINATED FIRST.
JOHN DUNIGAN OF GARDENIA LANE DID NOT BELIEVE THE PUBLIC
HAS SUFFICIENT AWARENESS OR UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPOSED PLAN, HE
FURTHER FELT THAT THE BARRIER ISLAND STUDY HAS NOT BEEN REFLECTED IN
THE PLAN AND THAT A BETTER STUDY IS NEEDED THAN WE PRESENTLY HAVE, IF
THE PLAN CALLS FOR A DENSITY OF 81 MR. DUNIGAN DID NOT SEE HOW YOU
CAN HOLD IT DOWN TO 6, AND HE BELIEVED THAT A FULL REFERENDUM IS
CALLED FOR ON THIS IMPORTANT MATTER.
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SHEILA MCGINTY OF 41ST AVENUE INFORMED THE BOARD THAT SHE
LIVED IN AN AREA WHICH HAD BEEN ZONED FOR ONE DENSITY AND SEVERAL
'HEARINGS WERE HELD WHERE DEVELOPERS TRIED TO GET HEAVIER DENSITY; SHE
STATED THAT EVEN THOUGH THE HEAVIER DENSITY WAS VOTED DOWN, IT WENT IN.
MS. MCGINTY INQUIRED WHAT GUARANTY THERE IS, IF THE PUBLIC VOICES A
REQUEST FOR LOW DENSITY, THAT IT WILL BE CARRIED OUT AND WE WILL NOT
HAVE HAPPEN HERE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN FORT PIERCE.
MARK TRIPSON, JIM LUTHER, AND GEORGE BEUTTELL ALL PASSED
THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WHEN CALLED.
JUNE KRAGH REMINDED THE BOARD OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES TO
PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND RESOURCES AND EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT NEW
BUILDINGS AND STREETS, ETC., CREATING ADDITIONAL RUNOFF WHICH GOES
INTO THE RIVER AND DOES NOT RECHARGE OUR AQUIFER.
JENS TRIPSON, LIFETIME COUNTY RESIDENT, FELT WE SHOULD EITHER
STICK TO THE MASTER PLAN THAT IS PRESENTLY IN EFFECT OR ADOPT -THE PLAN
DEVELOPED BY THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE THE SERVICES NEED
TO BE CONSIDERED AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING IN. MR. TRIPSON
EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT LOSING SPACE FOR AGRICULTURE BY ALLOWING ONLY
3 UNITS PER ACRE INSTEAD OF BUILDING A LITTLE HIGHER. HE ALSO FELT IF
PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN THIS COUNTY ALL THEIR LIVES DIRECT WHAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS COUNTY, WE WILL BE BETTER OFF THAN HAVING IT
DIRECTED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING IN AND MAKING A FAST BUCK AND MOVING
OUT. MR. TRIPSON EMPHASIZED THAT A MAXIMUM OF 8 UNITS PER ACRE ANYWHERE
IN THE COUNTY WILL SPREAD THINGS OUT TOO MUCH AND URGED THAT WE STAY
WITH THE PLAN WE HAVE OR ADOPT ONE THAT IS REALISTIC FOR THE ENTIRE
COUNTY AND NOT JUST A SPECIFIC GROUP.
HENRY MULLER OF CUTLASS COVE DRIVE, A DEVELOPER WHO HAS BUILT
IN AND AROUND VERO BEACH FORA NUMBER OF YEARS, FELT WE HAVE HAD FIRST
RATE PEOPLE WORKING ON THE PROPOSED PLAN AND A DEDICATED GROUP OF
OFFICIALS, AND WE MUST NOT ALLOW THE EMOTIONALISM OF SPECIAL INTEREST
GROUPS TO DISTORT THE BALANCED VIEW TAKEN BY OUR PLANNERS, HE POINTED
OUT THAT EVERY PLAN IS NECESSARILY A CONTINUING PLAN AS YOU CAN `T PLAN
FOR THE YEAR 2000, AND YOU NEED A LOOSE FORMAT WITHIN WHICH YOU CAN
OPERATE WITH ADEQUATE CONTROLS TO MAINTAIN THE LOW DENSITIES WHICH THE
PROPOSED PLAN CALLS FOR. MR. MULLER DEPLORED THE STATEMENTS MADE
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COMPARING OUR COUNTY TO FORT LAUDERDALE SINCE WE COULD NOT COME ANY-
WHERE NEAR TO APPROACHING THEIR DENSITIES UNDER THIS PLAN. HE FURTHER
DEPLORED NAMING ANY ASSOCIATION THE VERO BEACH CIVIC ASSOCIATION WHEN
IT DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL THE PEOPLE OF VERO BEACH. HE DID NOT FAVOR
A REFERENDUM BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE UNIFORMED PEOPLE VOTING ON SOMETHING
THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, MR. MULLER FIRMLY ENDORSED THE PATH THE
COUNTY COMMISSION HAS FOLLOWED OVER THE YEARS AND BELIEVED THEY ARE
CONTINUING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
JOSEPH HAJDINAH OF 546 HOLLY ROAD, VERO BEACH BUSINESS MAN,
WISHED TO GO ON RECORD IN FAVOR OF THE PLAN THE WAY IT IS PRESENTED.
HE FEARED IF THE DENSITIES WERE CUT IN HALF AS THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION
IS PROPOSING THAT IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO GET ANY EMPLOYEES TO WORK
FOR THE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND LIVE IN THIS TOWN, AND HE BELIEVED THE
CIVIC ASSOCIATION'S PROPOSAL WOULD PRESENT THE BUSINESS PEOPLE IN THIS
TOWN WITH A REAL PROBLEM$
JUDSON BARKER WAS CALLED AND REQUESTED THAT HE BE ALLOWED TO
RESERVE HIS COMMENTS FOR LATER, HE WAS INFORMED THAT HIS CARD WOULD
BE MOVED TO THE BOTTOM OF THOSE SUBMITTED.
GARY WHEELER SPOKE REGARDING A PIECE OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY
WHICH HE PURCHASED ON U.S.1 NORTH OF VERO BEACH A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS
AGO, WHICH THE PROPOSED PLAN WOULD REZONE TO RESIDENTIAL. MR. WHEELER
DID NOT AGREE WITH THE NODAL CONCEPT OF COMMERCIAL ZONING AND POINTED
OUT THAT HIS PROPERTY IS IN THE SAME AREA AS A RESTAURANT, A LARGE
LANDSCAPING BUSINESS, AND AN ANTIQUE SHOP; HE COULD NOT IMAGINE ANYONE
WANTING TO BUILD A HOME FRONTING ON A MAJOR HIGHWAY AND SURROUNDED BY
COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES,
DUDLEY WOOLLEY OF WABASSO INFORMED THE BOARD THAT HIS
BUSINESS IS LOCATED IN NORTH WABASSO ON U.S. I ON PROPERTY WHICH HE
PURCHASED AS COMMERCIAL AND THE PLAN NOW PROPOSES AS RESIDENTIAL.
TRI CITY ALUMINUM, WHICH IS LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET FROM HIM IS ALSO
DESIGNATED IN THE PROPOSED PLAN AS RESIDENTIAL, AND HE FELT THE PLAN
SHOULD BE CHANGED IN THAT AREA.
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BILL WILLIAMSON OF ATLANTIC BOULEVARD SPOKE AS A YEAR-
ROUND LOCAL BUSINESSMAN AND CONCERNED CITIZEN AND URGED THE BOARD
TO ADOPT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS PROPOSED.
DAVID WILLIAMSON OF 650 BOUGAINVILLEA LANE ALSO WISHED TO
ENDORSE THE MASTER PLAN AS PROPOSED WITH PERHAPS A LITTLE MORE ATTENTION
BEING GIVEN TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY,
BRUCE KALEITA OF DELTONA CORPORATION, MIAMI, STATED THAT,
AS A MAJOR DEVELOPER, HIS FIRM FINDS ITSELF IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED
COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN. HE NOTED THAT THEY OWN 83 ACRES ON THE
OCEAN IN THE NORTH BEACH AREA AND ACQUIRED IT WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE THAT
THE COUNTY WAS CONSIDERING REDUCING DENSITIES FROM 15 TO 6. HE BELIEVED
THIS WILL BE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE AND ALSO REDUCE THE PROBLEM WITH
UTILITIES. MR. KALEITA CONGRATULATED PLANNING DIRECTOR REVER AND HIS
STAFF ON THEIR WORK.
.JERRY KEEN, A CONCERNED CITIZEN,AND PROPERTY OWNER, SPOKE IN
FAVOR OF THE DENSITY PROPOSED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITH THE EXCEP-
TION THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AGRICULTURAL CHANGED BACK TO ONE UNIT
PER FIVE ACRES INSTEAD OF PER TEN ACRES. HE BROUGHT UP THE PROBLEM OF
PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BECOME NON -CONFORMING AND EMPHASIZED THAT THE
DENSITY SHOULD NOT BE REDUCED ANY FURTHER THAN THAT RECOMMENDED BY THE
PROPOSED PLAN SO THAT THE WORKING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY CAN LIVE WITH IT.
CHRIS HUBBARD, VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE VERO BEACH - INDIAN
RIVER COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, SPOKE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED
PLAN WHICH THEY BELIEVE IS A GOOD PLAN AND BASED ON A LEGITIMATE FIGURE
OF 127,000 PROJECTED POPULATION. HE EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF THE
PLAN HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY TO PROVIDE FOR THE NEEDS OF BOTH THE YOUNG
PEOPLE STARTING OUT AND THE OLD PEOPLE RETIRING. MR, HUBBARD POINTED
OUT THAT THE LAND USE PLAN IS A GUIDE WHICH CAN BE AMENDED AND WHICH
SHOULD BE REVIEWED EVERY FIVE YEARS AND MORE OFTEN, IF NECESSARY.
AGREED THAT WE WANT INDIAN RIVER COUNTY TO REMAIN SOMETHING SPECIAL
AND BELIEVED WE HAVE THE TOOLS, SITE PLAN APPROVAL, ETC., TO CONTROL
GROWTH. HE URGED THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REMEMBER THAT THE
PLAN BEING CONSIDERED IS THE RESULT OF MANY YEARS OF WORK BY THE
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PLANNERS HIRED BY THEM,
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AND THE CONSULTANTS HIRED BY THEM, AND EXPRESSED CONFIDENCE THAT THIS
COMMISSION, WHICH THE VOTERS FOUND MOST QUALIFIED TO RUN OUR COUNTY,
WILL PROVIDE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY. -
CHAIRMAN LYONS CALLED FOR A TEN MINUTE RECESS AT 9:00 P.M.
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS RECONVENED AT 9:10 P.M.
WITH THE SAME MEMBERS PRESENT.
THE CHAIRMAN CALLED JANET SPRINGER AND WAS INFORMED THAT SHE
HAD LEFT THE MEETING.
WILLIAM KOOLAGE OF 26TH AVENUE STATED THAT HE MOVED TO THIS
COUNTY TEN YEARS AGO AND HAS SEEN LIFE HERE BEGINNING TO DETERIORATE.
HE EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT DENSITIES AND WATER PROBLEMS AND DID NOT
BELIEVE WE HAVE THE IN-DEPTH STUDIES TO ASSURE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
THE WATER WE NEED, MR. KOOLAGE FELT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY SNOULD
HAVE SOME SAY AS TO WHAT THIS COUNTY LOOKS LIKE, AND AS TO PROVIDING
HOUSING FOR WORKERS, HE DID NOT BELIEVE THIS PLAN WILL BRING THE COST
LEVEL OF HOUSING DOWN. MR. KOOLAGE SUPPORTED THE VERO BEACH CIVIC
ASSOCIATION DENSITY PLAN AND DID NOT HOLD WITH THE POPULATION FORECAST
BY THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. HE URGED THAT A REFERENDUM BE HELD,
WILLIAM BRENGLE OF -THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF RETIRED PERSONS
BROUGHT UP THE 600,000 PROJECTED POPULATION FIGURE ENDORSED BY THE
CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND ASKED IF THE PLAN THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS ES-
POUSING WERE WORKED TO ITS MAXIMUM, WHAT WOULD THEN BE THE MAXIMUM
POPULATION THAT PLAN WOULD PUT IN THIS COUNTY,
MR. REVER ANSWERED THAT IF IT WERE WORKED OUT ACCORDING TO
THE RATIONALE USED BY THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, IT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY
6001 000,
MR. BRENGLE NOTED THAT RETIRED PERSONS MAKE UP ALMOST 30% OF
THE POPULATION OF FLORIDA; THEY PAY TAXES AND ARE CUSTOMERS OF A MAJORITY
OF THE BUSINESS PEOPLE, HE REPORTED THAT AT THEIR LAST GENERAL MEETING
HELD AUGUST 14TH, BY A FORMAL VOTE THEY DECLARED THAT THE CURSORY
STUDIES MADE SO FAR BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAVE FAILED TO PRODUCE A
PLAN EITHER FEASIBLE OR PRACTICAL AND POINTED OUT THAT THIS PLAN HAS
BEEN REJECTED BY THE VERO BEACH CIVIC ASSOCIATION, THE PELICAN ISLAND
AUDUBON SOCIETY, AND VARIOUS OTHER CIVIC AND PROPERTY OWNER GROUPS.
THE A.A.R.P. RECOMMENDED THE PROPER IN-DEPTH STUDIES BE MADE TO
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DETERMINE THAT ALL THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY, SUCH AS ROADS,
WATER SUPPLIES, POLICE AND FIRE PROTECTION, ETC., WOULD BE READILY
AVAILABLE AND AFFORDABLE TO SUPPLY ALL FACETS OF INCREASED POPULATION,
AND, IN CONCLUSION, URGED A REFERENDUM BE HELD.
JOHN CALMES SPOKE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED PLAN REPRESENTING
THE ASSOCIATION OF ARCHITECTS. HE POINTED OUT THAT THE PLAN HAS BEEN
PREPARED BY PROFESSIONALS TRAINED IN THE AREA IN WHICH THEY ARE ENDEAVOR-
ING. AS PROFESSIONALS THEMSELVES, THE ARCHITECTS CAN APPRECIATE THE
AMOUNT OF TIME AND STUDY THAT HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS PLAN, AND THEY
QUESTION WHETHER THERE IS EXPERTISE OF THIS SORT IN THE PLAN PRESENTED
BY THE VERO BEACH CIVIC ASSOCIATION. ISR. CALMES POINTED OUT THAT THE
CIVIC ASSOCIATION MAXIMUM DENSITY FIGURE OF 600,000 REPRESENTS THE
TOTAL LAND AREA OF THE COUNTY BEING DEVELOPED TO ITS MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE
DENSITY. HE CONTINUED THAT THE COUNTY'S PROPOSED PLAN IS MORE CONSERVA-
TIVE THAN THE PRESENT LAND USE PLAN; THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS WORKSHOPS
TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE CITIZENRY; AND HE BELIEVED IT IS SOMEWHAT OF
A COMPROMISE TO SATISFY ALL FACETS OF OUR COUNTY. MR. CALMES NOTED
THAT, ALTHOUGH THE ARCHITECTS OF THE COUNTY FEEL THERE ARE AREAS IN
THE PLAN THAT PROBABLY NEED SOME FURTHER STUDY, PARTICULARLY IN REGARD
TO CONSIDERATION OF COMMERCIAL AREA, THEY SUPPORT THE PRESENT PLAN AS
IT IS BEING PROPOSED.
MARVIN CARTER WAS CALLED AND YIELDED HIS PLACE TO ATTORNEY
STEVE HENDERSON.
ATTORNEY HENDERSON STATED THAT HE WAS NOT PRESENT TO CRITICIZE
THE PLAN AS A WHOLE BUT TO DISCUSS SPECIFIC PROPERTIES OWNED BY TWO
CLIENTS REPRESENTED BY BOTH HIMSELF AND MR. CARTER. THE FIRST PIECE
IS PROPERTY OWNED BY MR. & MRS. CLARENCE CONDE ON U.S. I SOUTH OF
WABASSO WHICH IS PRESENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL AND HAS EXISTING COMMERCIAL
USES. THE CONDES ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EFFECT OF THE LD -2
CATEGORY ON THEIR PROPERTY. ATTORNEY HENDERSON REALIZED THAT THE PLAN
CONTEMPLATES COMMERCIAL NODULES, BUT FELT CONSIDERATION MUST BE GIVEN
TO AREAS WHERE EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES ARE LOCATED SO THAT PEOPLE
ARE NOT PUT IN A NON -CONFORMING USE CATEGORY WHERE THEY CAN T EXPAND
OR REBUILD.
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ATTORNEY HENDERSON NEXT DISCUSSED THE PROPERTY OWNED BY LONG
TIME COUNTY RESIDENTS, CLARA DALES AND FAMILY, WHO DEVELOPED LITTLE
ORCHID ISLE SOUTH OF WABASSO CAUSEWAY AND PRESENTLY OWN 130-150 ACRES
LOCATED BETWEEN LITTLE ORCHID SUBDIVISION AND THE TOWN OF INDIAN RIVER
SHORES. THE DESIGNATION OF A LARGE PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY INTO
AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE ZONE IS OF GREAT CONCERN TO THE DALES, AND
ATTORNEY HENDERSON CONTENDED THAT THIS TERM, WHICH IS NOT DEFINED IN
THE PLAN AS TO USES ALLOWED, ETC., HAS A CERTAIN STIGMA AND MORE OR LESS
INFERS THAT A LARGE PART OF THE PROPERTY COULD BE ZERO UNITS PER ACRE.
HE NOTED THAT A LARGE AMOUNT OF THIS PROPERTY IS ABOVE THE HIGH WATER
LINE AND COULD BE DEVELOPED, AND HE BELIEVED THIS PROPERTY WAS INCL-UDED
IN AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE ZONE MAINLY DUE TO LACK OF DEFINITIVE
STUDIES. ATTORNEY HENDERSON DID NOT FEEL THE BOARD SHOULD IMPOSE THE
BURDEN OF MAKING SUCH STUDIES ON THE OWNERS OF THE WETLANDS, AND HE
ASKED AT THE VERY LEAST, THAT THE BOARD CHANGE THIS TERMINOLOGY TO
SOMETHING ELSE.
BETTY WATKINS OF 19TH STREET STATED THAT SHE WONDERED HOW
OUR BEACHES WILL ACCOMMODATE THE PROJECTED POPULATION WITHOUT BECOMING
LIKE CONEY ISLAND AND WHETHER THE TOURISTS WILL STILL WANT TO COME TO
VERO BEACH IF IT IS LIKE CONEY ISLAND. SHE SPOKE IN FAVOR OF REFEREN-
DUM.
FREDERICK MESSNER, JR., PRAISED VERO BEACH AS THE PERFECT
RETIREMENT COMMUNITY - A RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL COUNTY WITH NO
POLLUTION, PLENTY OF GOOD WATER, BEAUTIFUL BEACHES KEPT FREE OF HIGH
RISES, AND MINIMAL TRAFFIC CONGESTION. HE FELT THE KIND OF GROWTH
WE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS HAS BEEN HEALTHY AND THAT
WE SHOULD SET OUR DENSITIES TO CONTINUE THE SAME TYPE OF GROWTH IN THE
YEARS TO COME, MR. MESSNER URGED THAT WE KEEP THE COUNTY AGRICULTURAL
AND RESIDENTIAL AND OBJECTED TO ZONING 230 ACRES ON ROUTE FO FOR
INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USE. HE SAW NO REASON FOR HAVING ANY MORE
INDUSTRY IN VERO BEACH, AND FELT IT SHOULD REMAIN IN THE BIG CITIES.
.JACQUELINE SIEFARTH OF 34TH AVENUE NOTED THAT TAXES HAVE
DOUBLED THIS YEAR AND EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE THE PLAN
WILL COST THE TAXPAYERS IN REGARD TO SUPPLYING THE ADDITIONAL FIRE
PROTECTION, POLICE PROTECTION, AND OTHER SERVICES THAT WILL BE NEEDED.
SHE SPOKE IN FAVOR OF A REFERENDUM.
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ARMIN SIEFARTH DECLINED HIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK,
ANN ROBINSON OF NASSAU DRIVE INFORMED THE BOARD THAT AT THE
PUBLIC HEARING HELD BY THE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION, SHE PROPOSED
AN OPEN SPACE CATEGORY BE ADDED SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE CITY OF VERO
BEACH, AND THE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION APPROVED HER SUGGESTION;
SHE HOPED THE BOARD WOULD ALSO. MRS. ROBINSON SUGGESTED THAT THE MD -1
AREA NORTH OF BARBER AVENUE AND EAST OF U.S. 1 BE MADE LD -1 BECAUSE
MUCH OF THIS IS WETLANDS AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE, AND IT IS NOT
IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AA FLOOD ZONE.
MRS, ROBINSON STATED THAT IF 127,000 IS THE GENERAL CONSENSUS OF THE
POPULATION WE WOULD HAVE IN THE YEAR 20001 SHE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
COMMISSION ESTABLISH A WAY TO SEE THAT IS THE MAXIMUM POPULATION
RAYMOND SCENT SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE PLAN PROPOSED BY THE
PLANNING STAFF, HE NOTED THAT THE FIFTH AMENDMENT SAYS PRIVATE PROPERTY
CANNOT BE TAKEN WITHOUT JUST COMPENSATION AND WENT ON TO DISCUSS ZONING
WHICH CONFISCATES PROPERTY RIGHTS, INVERSE CONDEMNATION, ETC, HE THEN
RECITED A TALE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON A HILLSIDE BUT DON T WANT
ANYONE ELSE TO MOVE THERE AND SPOIL THEIR VIEW. MR SCENT STATED THAT
.OUR BUSINESS PEOPLE NEED HOMES; THEY ARE HERE; AND THEY ARE ENTITLED
TO A WAY OF LIFE ALSO, HE FELT THE PRESENT PLAN, WHICH IS A DOWN-
GRADING OF THE OLD ONE BY A GOOD 40%, IS A GOOD ONE AND THAT TO GO
ANY FURTHER WOULD JUST BE A PROBLEM.
HANK PARMAN OF THE BOARD OF REALTORS STATED THAT THEY SUPPORT
ADOPTION OF THE PLAN WHICH WAS DONE BY EXPERIENCED PROFESSIONALS, HE
POINTED OUT THAT WE WILL NOT AND CANNOT BECOME ANOTHER FORT LAUDERDALE;
OUR DENSITIES AND OUR HEIGHT LIMITATIONS HAVE BEEN LOWER SINCE 1971,
MR, PARMAN FELT THE MASTER PLAN MUST BE IMPLEMENTED OR OUR TAX BASE
WILL BE GREATLY AFFECTED, AND HE URGED THE BOARD TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED
PLAN.
WILLIAM ZEEDYK, PRESIDENT OF TREASURE COAST CONDOMINIUM
ASSOCIATION, READ THE FOLLOWING LETTER OBJECTING TO DENSITY IN THE
PROPOSED PLAN:
Ff.C.C.A.
Treasure Coast Condominium Associa.ion
P.O. Box 1735 VERO BEACH CHAPTER Vero Beach. Florida 32960
May 22, 1981
Mr. Pat Lyons, Chairman '
Indian River County Commission.
2145 14th Avenue j
Vero Beach, Florida 32960 '
Dear Sir:
After several meetings and many suggested ideas of com-
munication, it was decided at a meeting of the Board of Directors
of this Chapter on May 19, 1981 to pass a resolution to go on
record to the Indian River County Commission expressing our
concern and/or our objection to the land use plan, especially
the high density recommendations in some areas as outlined in
the plan to be considered by you at this time.
We feel it should be pointed out that forty-four (44)
condominium associations are members of our organization. This
represents 6,000 units or dwellings and if multiplied by two (2)
would total 12,000 members. We cannot over -emphasize the amount
of dissatisfaction expressed by members of this organization
with this plan.
TRe would hope you gentlemen will not forget to consider
what problems could be facing us, especially on the barrier is-
land, if restraint is not forthcoming. It would seem to us that
for the sake of two or three developers, or let us put it
another way, for just monetary gains of a few; the life style,
comfort and happiness of thousands of our citizens could be
impaired.
The City of Vero Beach and Indian River County have always
been an outstanding example of simplicity, yet of great beauty,
and is the envy of our surrounding neighbors. If not by design,
then at least by good common sense, this county has developed
into what is known to be the most desirable area in which to
reside.
Because restraint and good common sense was not used by
others south of us, they are now faced with a multitude of
problems. They now find there is insufficient water supply,
sewerage problems, roads that cannot be widened to support the
tremendous increase in traffic, that in turn is causing not only
congestion, but dangerous traffic problems restricting emergency
vehicles such as police, fire and ambulance service. Also there
is the lack of sufficient bridges to effectively handle traffic
in the event of emergency, such as in time of need for quick
evacuation, or more so on a continuing basis getting police,
fire and ambulance service to and from the barrier island. We
could go on and on enumerating as to why good planning and re-
straint is so important but we will leave that up to you who
are our representatives to inszre our future will be properly
planned.
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We will be following these proceedings with a great deal
of interest as we are concerned. We would also like to advise
you that we are in support of the efforts of the Vero Beach
Civic Association's recommendations pertaining to this matter.
Please give some consideration to this.
Respectfully,
William, Zeedvk, President
P.S. We are requesting that the contents of this letter be
read at the first public meeting regarding County Land Use
Plan and become part of the minutes of that meeting.
MR. ZEEDYK COMMENTED THAT IN THE CHAIRMAN`S OPENING REMARKS, HE SAID
THAT THE DENSITY AT VISTA ROYALE WAS ABOUT 15. HE AGREED THAT IS THE
PERMISSIBLE DENSITY, BUT IF THEIR GOLF COURSE, ETC., IS TAKEN INTO
CONSIDERATION, MR. ZEEDYK FELT THEIR DENSITY IS ABOUT 6. HE THEN
BROUGHT UP THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM VISTA ROYALE FACES IN MOVING FROM THEIR
COMPLEX ONTO A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY AND NOTED IF THIS COMPLEX HAD BEEN
DEVELOPED TO 15 UNITS AN ACRE, IT WOULD BE REALLY TERRIBLE. HE POINTED
OUT IF THEY HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM WITH A DUAL HIGHWAY, THE BARRIER
ISLAND WOULD HAVE DOUBLE THE PROBLEM.
CHAIRMAN LYONS CALLED .JAMES HAEGER AND ANNOUNCED THAT MR.
HAEGER WOULD BE THE LAST TO BE CALLED THIS EVENING.
.JAMES HAEGER OF 33RD AVENUE, A NATIVE FLORIDIAN WHO GREW
UP IN MIAMI, NOTED THAT HE IS MAINLY CONCERNED WITH FRESH WATER;
NO ONE HAS EVEN MENTIONED FISHING THIS EVENING, AND HE SAW WHAT
HAPPENED IN BISCAYNE BAY. HE EMPHASIZED THAT WE MUST THINK ABOUT THE
FRESH WATER AQUIFER WHICH IS DISAPPEARING RAPIDLY.
CHAIRMAN LYONS ANNOUNCED THAT IT IS NOW 10:00 O'CLOCK P.M.
AND WE NAVE GONE THROUGH 39 CARDS OUT OF ABOUT 79. HE HOPED THAT
AT THE NEXT MEETING WE WILL BE ABLE TO COVER THE REMAINING CARDS. HE
AGAIN ANNOUNCED THAT A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED COMPRE-
HENSIVE LAND USE PLAN WILL BE HELD AT 7:30 P.M. IN THIS SAME AUDITORIUM
ON SEPTEMBER 1, 1981,
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, ON NOTION MADE, SECONDED
AND CARRIED, THE BOARD ADJOURNED AT 10:00 O'CLOCK P.M.
ATTEST:
CLERK U CHAIRMAN