HomeMy WebLinkAbout4/28/1982Wednesday, April 28, 1982
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County,
Florida, met in Special Session at the County Commission
Chambers, 1840 25th Street, Vero Beach, Florida, on Wednesday,
April 28, 1982, at 8:30 o'clock A.M. Present were Don C.
Scurlock, Jr., Chairman; Alfred Grover Fletcher, Vice Chairman;
Dick Bird; Patrick B. Lyons, and William C. Wodtke, Jr. Also
present were David Greene, Assistant County Administrator; L. S.
"Tommy" Thomas, Intergovernmental Coordinator; Gary Brandenburg,
Attorney to the Board of County Commissioners; and Virginia
Hargreaves, Deputy Clerk.
The Chairman called the meeting to order.
Attorney Brandenburg led the 'Pledge of Allegiance to the
Flag.
DISCUSSION - CIVIL DEFENSE EOC FACILITY
The Board received the following memo:
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA
INTER --OFFICE MEMORANDUM
TO The Honorable MR nbers of the DATE: April 27, 1982 FI LE:
Board of County Commissioners
THRU: David L. Greene SUBJECT: Emergency operations Center
Asst. County Administrator (EOC)
FROM: S. zee Nuzi.e• REFERENCES:
Civil Defense Director
It is requested that the data herein presented to be given formal con-
sideration by the County Commission.
DESCRIPTION AND CONDITIONS:
On December 30, 1981, a memorandum frau then County Administrator, Neil
Nelson, informed. the County Commissioners that ample space is available in
the new Administration Building. This memorandum also informed 'commissioners
that there are Federal matching funds of a sum necessary to either remodel or
build a new and approved E.O.C.
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At a meeting of the Public Safety Ccnndttee on December 29, 1982, a re-
cammendation was approved to recommend to the County Commission that the Civil
Defense Department be relocated to the available space at the County Admini-
stration Building.
On April 21, 1982, the Commissioners were requested by Acting County Ad-
ministrator, David Greene, to effect a "Letter of Intent" as requested by
FEMA before action would be taken by FEMA for matching funds. At this meeting,
the Civil Defense Director was directed by the CamumLission to obtain the answers
to several questions posed by the Commissioners.
ALTERNATIVES AND ANALYSIS
A. On January 6, 1982, the Board authorized the Administrator to explore
the cost, possible funding, and to review the feasibility with the
Public Safety Committee of moving the Civil Defense Department to the
Administration Building. Cost was estimated to be $2,539.50. No funds
have been budgeted for this move. However, matching funds are avail-
able through FEMA.
In the minutes of the Indian River County Public Safety Meeting of
December 29, 1982, it was recomnended that the County Commission allo-
cate space in the New County Administration Building, to be affected
as soon as possible, and that the present facility occupied by the
Civil Defense headquarters be turned over to the office of the
Sheriff. The Sheriff could then receive two to five years relief
Of Problems 'developed from -Overcrowding of the current jail facility.
B. As requested by the Commission, a copy of the tentative floor plan is
attached (see Enclosure #1). Also available for review -,are floor
plans of approved E.O.C.'s for surrounding counties.
It has been estimated that the cost of remodeling the new administration
building to house the proposed E.O.C. is $250,000 (see Enclosure #2).
An additional estimate from a local architect has not been received as
of this date.
G. A blank copy of the Project Application is attached as Enclosure V.
D. The suggested use of the old jail cannot be attained until it is
vacant, approximately three (3) years from present date. However,
from study to date it would appear that matching funds would not be
available at that time.
E. The above time factor also precludes consideration of including Civil
Defense in the new Jail Program.
F. The present administration building has a 150 KW generator and could
be adapted for E.O.C. use.
G. Enclosure #4 i.s a letter frau FEMA recommending alterations and favoring
this location as an excellent location.
H. FEMA will pay matching funds for furniture, furnishings and room displays
for the operations roan of this center.
I. FEMA will pay matching funds for relocation of all equipment operated by
the existing E.O.C.
J. Cost of neighboring E.O.C.'s range from Martin County, $300,000, built in
1979, contains 5,100 sq. ft.; Citrus County, $150,000, built in 1979, con-
tains 4,000 sq. ft. and Volusia County, $453,000, built in 1976 contains
8,428 sq. ft.
K. FPL has not committed funds toward construction of a new facility for St.
Lucie County; however, they have agreed to part of the cost of architect's
fees and site surveys.
RECOMMENIDATIMS :
This is a three part recc mendation:
1. That the Board of County Cotmissioners authorize the Chairman to
sign a letter of intent designating the use of 4168.5 square feet
of County owned property as a future site of the Indian River County
Emergency Operations Center.
2. That the County Commissioners follow the reca rendation of the Indian
River County Public Safety Advisory Camuttee and instruct the
Assistant County Administrator to prepare office space in the new
administration building and move all Civil Defense personnel and
equipment to this location as soon as practical.
3. That staff be instructed to continn the feasibility study concerning
the construction or remodeling requirements for a new ECC and return
to the Board with the results of the study.
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Civil Defense Director Lee Nuzie apologized to the Board for
the delay in presenting this material, noting that he had just
received the information from the architect and felt he had
pushed.the people who were doing all this gratis pretty hard.
Chairman Scurlock favored staff recommendation No. 3 which
is merely to continue the feasibility study on construction or
remodeling requirements for a new Emergency Operations Center and
present the results to the Board.
Question arose as to whether this construction was supposed
to protect from atomic attack, and Commissioner Lyons stated that
while he. did agree there is a need for headquarters which are
protected against hurricanes and similar natural disasters, he
would not vote any money for a facility to withstand atomic
attack since he believed our ability to save even a reasonable
portion of the population from nuclear attack is minimal.
Commissioner Fletcher wished to know if the $150,000 is for
the purpose of building a pillbox around the facilities we now
have.
Civil Defense Director Nuzie explained that only part of
this cost would go towards a concrete deck on top of the existing
roof, the balance would be used for restrooms, sleeping quarters,
etc. He stressed that if we want to receive matching funds and
continue to be on the high priority list, we will have to meet
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federal prerequisites; the government will not give us a penny
unless we have a protective factor of 100 against radioactive
fallout. It is Civil Defense's contention that you have to have
some plan; if you have none, people lose hope and panic
multiplies. He pointed out that there are 67 counties in Florida
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of which 37 have approved Emergency Operation Centers, and it
disturbs him to see Indian River County lagging behind.
Chairman Scurlock was of the opinion that we may be better
off by not matching any funds and just constructing a facility
suitable for our needs. He agreed we need a larger and more
adequate focal point where emergency officials can operate, but
he could not agree with designing to federal standards and only
for a 45% match.
Discussion followed on the fact that"the proposed EOC would
protect only a few key personnel and not the balance of the
people in the county. Mr. Nuzie emphasized that the proposed
center is not a bomb shelter, but just provides protection from
radioactive fallout. He pointed out that if the emergency people
are protected, they can get help to the others quicker and
reiterated that if we have no plan, people have no security.
Commissioner Fletcher inquired whether the plan presented
for space for the EOC is "wish" space or existing space, and Vir.
Nuzie explained that the plan for the new altered EOC involves
about 4,100 sq. ft. in the County Administration building located
across from the Purchasing Department, which space he estimated
would be sufficient to serve the community for about 15 years.
Further debate ensued as to what the matching funds would
actually cost the county, and Mr. Nuzie felt the extra
expenditure required to meet the prerequisites eventually would
.4 be balanced off by future benefits.
Commissioner Wodtke, who has been working closely with Civil
Defense for some years, spoke strongly in favor of being
supportive of Civil Defense and meeting their needs so that we
can be prepared when disaster hits. He pointed out that Civil
Defense has been burdened with many mandated projects in the last
few years and felt that even though this will cost some money,
the citizens of the county are entitled to have an approved EOC_
which will enable our emergency personnel to function in times of
need. He did, however, raise a question as to whether the
Administration Building is the proper location for an EOC since
this space is very valuable, but further noted that the Safety
Committee recommended that we use this space, and FEMA felt it
would be an excellent location.
In further discussion it was generally agreed that we do
need an adequate emergency center; this, however, is a lot of
money to commit to a center of a temporary nature, and the
possibility of constructing one in a location of a more permanent
nature was brought up, especially 'since the space in the
Administration Building will become• more and more valuable for
office space as the county continues to grow.
Mr. Nuzie noted that to build a new EOC would cost about
$100 a sq. ft., or $400-$500,000 while the figures for the
proposed remodeling range from $192,000 to $250,000. He
emphasized that this issue of a headquarters with sanitary
facilities, sleeping quarters and a leak proof building is very
important. They have very expensive equipment which needs
protection, and if Civil Defense does not do a good job during
emergencies, they are the ones who gets taken to task. Mr. Nuzie
urged that the County move towards getting an EOC that will serve
our people.
Commissioner Bird noted that in the plan presented, there
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appears to be a tremendous percentage of space that will not be
utilized except in emergencies and asked if there,is any planning
for an interim use of an EOC pending the need of the full
facility.
Mr. Nuzie concurred that it could be used for training
purposes, meetings for other departments, etc.; they have no
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intention of locking up that space but just need it to be
available for use during emergencies.
Discussion ensued about possible costs, the costs encoun-
tered in other counties in building such centers, and what was
actually needed in this county. It was noted that in Martin
County they do use their EOC partially all the time because that
is where the Sheriff's dispatcher operates.
Mr. Nuzie brought up the fact that Civil Defense now
receives some federal funds for various equipment, and since
counties with an approved EOC are in a position to ask for a
greater amount, he would like to see us remain on the high
priority list.
Gary Wheeler of the Indian River County Public Safety
Advisory Committee, wished to clarify the fact that the idea of
moving the EOC to the Administration Building was evolved by the
Public Safety Committee with the thought of helping with the
immediate problem of overcrowding at the jail. The Motion was
made to move the EOC to the Administration Building with the
thought that this would be a 2 - 5 year solution until the new
jail was built, and those funds would then serve a double purpose
by having the jail complex and the EOC all under one roof.
Chairman Scurlock commented that any funds spent for
renovating the proposed area would not be lost because it would
be available for office purposes later. He believed we should
remodel for temporary use for the EOC with the thought of
addressing the permanent situation later, possibly in conjunction
with the jail. It. was generally agreed this sounded more
reasonable.
Commissioner Lyons urged that any remodeling be done with
the use of movable partitions rather than permanent ones.
Bill Koolage, interested citizen, appreciated the concern
being shown for the safety of the county citizens, but was not in
favor of ambitious plans for a fall -out proof and almost bomb
proof shelter since he believed there is no way to protect anyone
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in Florida from nuclear bombing in any event. He did agree that
Civil Defense has had problems with their present quarters and
was in favor of some moderate move to get them something more
adequate on a temporary basis.
Motion was made by Commissioner Bird, seconded by
Commissioner Lyons, to have staff work with Civil Defense
Director Nuzie and come back with a recommendation on making the
least costly modifications possible to the space available, with
the understanding that we are looking at this on a temporary
basis of 2 to 3 years until a new jail can be constructed.
Commissioner Wodtke asked if it is the Motion's intent that
we are making a firm commitment that when we build the jail it
will include construction of an approved EOC.
Commissioner Lyons felt this still is an open option and
stated that his second to the Motion did not include that
commitment.
Commissioner Bird also stated that he did not add that to
the Motion, but it was his opinion that it makes sense to have
Civil Defense and. the Sheriff in one contiguous building, and
funding may be more palatable at that time. Discussion continued
iri regard to the feeling that further study must be done re
location, funding, etc., before making any firm commitment on the
EOC.
Civil Defense Director Nuzie asked if this means we are not
going to send a letter of intent, and Chairman Scurlock explained
the intent is to make this a temporary situation, design a
facility that will be reusable with minimum cost for future
county use with the thought of exploring additional facilities in
the Sheriff's future office complex, and leave the door open for
other possibilities.
Commissioner Lyons wished to know if the administrative
staff concurs that we have the proposed space available, and
Assistant Administrator Greene felt that at this time we would be
looking at about 1,200 sq. ft.in this building.
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Commissioner Bird stated that is not the intent of his
Motion, which would be that the square footage would be
relatively close to what is shown in the proposed floor plan.
Assistant Administrator Greene stated that we do have the
space, but -it was his understanding that they now would not need
all the cooking and sleeping facilities, etc.
Mr. Nuzie firmly emphasized that his crew does need cooking
and sleeping facilities of their own and should not be dependent
on a third party for 24 hour assistance in emergencies. They do
not require anything elaborate, but they definitely do need space
for sleeping quarters plus simple cooking facilities, and 1200
sq. ft. is not at all adequate.
Chairman Scurlock explained that the Board is not saying
1200 sq.- ft. is adequate; what they do want is to have the Civil
Defense Director work with staff to determine what will meet his
department's needs.
The Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and
carried unanimously.
DISCUSSION RE REPLACEMENT FOR BOARD SECRETARY ELIZABETH FORLANI
Commissioner Lyons felt the Board now must proceed based orr
the understanding that the Board Secretary's position is open and
make it known that we would like to receive resumes for someone
to fill that position. He felt this goes hand in hand with the
need to clarify the position of Secretary to the Commission in
the proposed Administrative Ordinance and place the Secretary
definitely under the direct administration of the County
Commission.
Chairman Scurlock informed the Board that on Friday he
discussed this situation with Mrs. Forlani and encouraged her to
reconsider because he felt she is a valuable employee and an
asset to the County. He reported that they did discuss that he
would be supportive of reorganization as outlined by Commissioner
Lyons, and in addition, discussed the need for readjustment of
compensation, as well as job title and a good over all look at
that office. He felt they had a very good, frank, open
conversation then as well as on Monday when he again encouraged
Mrs. Forlani to reconsider.
Commissioner Lyons brought up the fact that we have
appointed numerous additional committees of late, which has
created considerably more work for the Board Secretary. He also
felt the requirement of having a central pl.ace.where the public
can call is a very important element of this office. Commis-
sioner Lyons noted that we have a salary survey in the mill and
felt we might want to make an in-depth job survey in this
department to determine whether it is adequately manned,
adequately paid, etc.
Motion was made by Commissioner Lyons that, in connection
with the previously proposed salary survey, a look be taken at
the workload in the department of the Board Secretary to see if _
it is adequately manned, has the proper job description, etc.
Chairman Scurlock noted that Mrs. Forlani is now classified
as a secretary which is no way describes what she actually does.
He also believed --that her compensation is out of line since we
have new administrative assistants paid in a range that is not at
all compatible with the salary paid someone in Mrs. Forlani's
position who has been with the county ten years.
Commissioner Fletcher stated he had no problem with
adjusting the compensation and job title, but he did have a
problem with hiring someone to do a survey to sustain what we
already know is so.
Chairman Scurlock believed Commissioner Lyons was just
trying to include this in with the other study. He noted that we
must address this situation quickly because unless she will
reconsider, we are faced with bringing someone on board.
Commissioner Fletcher commented that he has had several
members of the public ask him what the Commission has done now to
cause the loss of someone that valuable.
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Commissioner Lyons commented that, as he has said before, he
considers it a terrible loss to the county, and he has tried his
hardest to get Mrs. Forlani to stay but has not been successful.
Chairman Scurlock stated that he was hoping that the
proposed reorganization was going to be properly addressed. He
agreed this has been in limbo, and he realizes this is part of
the problem.
Mrs. Forlani informed the Board that she is firm in her
decision to leave and felt that even now her problem is still
only being considered, discussed and shuffled around. Nobody has
made a firm decision; they are still procrastinating; and it
could be another six months before some survey is done. She noted
that the Board members are all well aware of the work that is
done in her"office.
Commissioner Fletcher requested Mrs. Forlani to write a job
description for her position before she does leave.
Mrs. Forlani reported that she and her assistant, Alice
White, have kept a daily log for the last three months and can
provide a very accurate account of the work done in that office.
Commissioner Bird asked Mrs. Forlani if there is any action
the Board could take this morning that would change her mind
about leaving. He stated that he would like to see her stay and
believed the Board all is."guilty of some degree of
procrastination.
Mrs. Forlani noted that her job description has been
incorrect for well over a year and still nothing has been done;
it is merely going to be evaluated. She stated that she believed
she has to leave in order to get the office straightened out.
She honestly felt she has to do this to get the office what it
deserves and the credit for the amount of work that it does.
Commissioner Lyons felt the new ordinance will be helpful to
set the responsibility on the Commission for dealing with the
offices under the Commission and everyone will know where they
stand.
Mrs. Forlani agreed that would be a tremendous help.
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The Board continued to discuss the various problems
presented by. Mrs. Forlani, and Commissioner Bird asked Mrs.
Forlani whether she would reconsider if she thought all this
could be straightened out and finalized within 30 days. She
agreed that she would have to give the mattes some thought on
that basis.
Commissioner Wodtke noted that Mrs. Forlani has been with
the County since he has been on the Commission. He stated there
was no one he could depend on more, and she could be very proud
of the work she had done for the county and its citizens. He
expressed regret for some of the reasons that had forced her to
come to a decision to resign, and presented her with a present
for either "good-bye" or "welcome back."
Commissioner Lyons' Motion died for lack of a second, and
the Chairman called a brief recess --to have an opportunity for
further discussion with Mrs. Forlani.
The Board of County Commissioner reconvened with the same
members present.
Commissioner -Bird expressed the hope that this problem can
be resolved and asked the Chairman to review the specific items
he had discussed with Mrs. Forlani re changes in her department.
Chairman Scurlock stated that one of the first problems she
had identified was that the level of compensation was
inconsistent with the job. He had suggested an immediate 100
increase and that at budget time, being an administrative
secretary and responsible for her department budget, she would
prepare her own budget, including salaries, and the department
would be directly responsible to the County Commission. He noted
that he also had indicated that the matter of additional
personnel could be addressed at budget time.
Mrs. Forlani stated that was too late, and someone is needed
right now.
Commissioner Lyons pointed out that the Commission has
enough work that they now meet almost each week; we have
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appointed additional committees; and all this has greatly
increased the load on the Board secretaries.
Commissioner Bird noted that the City of Vero provides
secretarial staff for all the various committees and stated while
he had agreed, in the beginning that the Parks and Recreation
Committee would operate without a secretary, it is very difficult
for him as Chairman to run the tape recorder, preside over the
meeting, take notes and try to pay attention.
Chairman Scurlock agreed that the City of Vero Beach has
three secretaries in this department. He had no doubt there is a
need for additional personnel, but had felt it is generally
considered at budget time.
Motion was made by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by
Commissioner Bird, to authorile an additional person in the
office of Secretary to the Commission; to provide an interim
salary increase of 10% effective immediately; and to agree that
this office immediately will become directly responsible to the
Board of County Commissioners and that this will be formalized
when the new ordinance is adopted.
Commissioner Fletcher asked Assistant Administrator Greene -
for his feelings on this, and Mr. Greene felt it would be fine
and that he did not envision any problems working along those
lines. He felt this is very consistent with what you find in the
city management form of government where you do have "charter"
offices.
Commissioner Wodtke inquired whose responsibility it is
going to be to prepare the agenda.
Commissioner Lyons stated that the agenda would be prepared
by the Secretary to the County Commission, and Chairman Scurlock
concurred, noting that he had very strong feelings about agenda
preparation. He felt either the material is in the Board
secretary's office at the cut-off date complete with the
necessary backup or it does not go on the agenda and also that
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any citizen has a right to directly ask within that time period
to be placed on an agenda whether we think they are ready or not.
It was noted that on occasion the Administrator may not be .
ready in time to provide backup material, and while that can be
understood, we should abide by a cut-off date in fairness to all
the staff, and the Commissioners should abide by this also.
Commissioner Fletcher called for the question. It was voted
on and carried unanimously.
Mrs. Forlani thanked everyone for their support and agreed
that she would withdraw her resignation.
The Commissioners expressed their pleasure that this matter
has been resolved and that the County will not lose someone as
valuable as Mrs. Forlani.
There being no further business, on Motion duly made,
seconded and carried, the Board adjourned at 10:25 o'clock A.M.
ATTEST:
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