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HomeMy WebLinkAbout5/26/1982Wednesday, May 26, 1982 The ,.Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County, Florida, met in Special Session at the County Commission Chambers, 1840 25th Street, Vero Beach, Florida, on Wednesday, May 26, 1982, at 8:30 o'clock A.M. Present were Don C. Scurlock, Jr., Chairman; Alfred Grover Fletcher, Vice Chairman; Dick Bird; Patrick B. Lyons; and William C. Wodtke, Jr. Also present were David L. Greene, Assistant County Administrator; Gary Brandenburg, Attorney to the Board of County Commissioners; Jeffrey K. Barton, Finance Director; and Virginia Hargreaves and Janice Caldwell, Deputy Clerks. The Chairman called the meeting to order and announced that this was a continuation of the May 19, 1982 meeting: Vice Chairman Fletcher led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. ADDITIONS TO AGENDA The Chairman asked if there were any additions to the Agenda. Commissioner Lyons requested adding the following: a report on the status of the courtroom; a discussion of the last letter from Judge Smith; and comments concerning reapportionment. a On Motion by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Bird, the Board unanimously approved the addition of the three emergency items, as requested by Commissioner Lyons. Commissioner Bird discussed the position of Community Development Director and understood that five people, who lived a great distance from the County, were being considered for the job. He was not in favor of having to fund this travel. SAY; 2 6 1982 r; s t1►Y 2 fi pp .80 Chairman Scurlock pointed out that Dr. C. B. Hardin had three top candidates for the position, and two of them live close by. Chairman Scurlock requested adding an item concerning a 4 Seminar on Finance to the Agenda. On Motion by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Wodtke, the Board unanimously approved the addition of the emergency item, as requested by the Chairman. CLERK TO THE BOARD E. Approval to purchase IBM Displaywriter Systems Finance Director Barton reviewed the following material with the Board: To: Board of County Camniss i oners From: Jeffrey K. Barton, Finance Director Re: Exercise of Purchase Option for Word Processors The word processing system, consisting of two display writers, two dual diskette drives and a printer, was installed in the Clerk of the Circuit Court's office in July, 1*981. The system was placed on IBM's lease/rental plan with option to purchase. The total monthly lease amount is $792.00, annualized at $9,504.00. ` The software currently in use on the display writers, Textpack 2, provides for conventional.wordprocessing features, such as: editing, scanning and spelling diction,3ry. 11owever two higher level versions of the !,oftwarc: are available which provides extended wordprocessing capability. Textpack 3 provides capability for columnar presentations and arithmetic relationships between columns. Textpack-4 provides communication facility with external data files for enhanced customizing of form letters and reports. Textpacks 3 and 4 each require some upgrading of the display writers they are installed on. By exercising the purchase option on the installed equipment, at this time, the system can be acquired for a net purchase price, after applying purchase accruals, of $17,594.00. If the system is future upgraded or enhanced by the installation of Textpack 3 for both display writers and the necessary support features, the entire system cost will be $19.094.00. Using IBM's installment purchase plan with payments being amortized over five years at ll%, monthly costs including principal, interest and maintenance will be $602.00, annualized at $7,220.00. This will result in an annual saving of $2,284.00 on the system and provide enhanced word processing capability. In order to provide both additional word processinq capab;lity and to be able to access data files for customized form letters, it is proposed that one additional display writer and dual diskette drive be'purcha-,ed with Textpack 4 and related support features. The additional equipment will cost $8,805.00. With a 10Z down payment, this equipment can be acquired on IBM's installment purchase plan for $246.00 monthly, annualized it $2,949.00. It is my recommendation to outright purchase the current two display writer plus one additional display writer for a total cost of $27,898.56 plus a monthly maintenance charge of $268.50 (the maintenance has current funding but the basic purchase will require a budget transfer as follows). Account Title Account Number Increase Decrease Boards Equipment 001-101-511-66.41 19,0911. Clerk to B.C.C. Equipment 001-300-5:12-66.41- 8,805 B.C.C: Res. for Contingencies 001-199-513-99.91 27,899• Mr. Barton referred to the last paragraph of his memo and advised. that the following adjustments needed to be made: Line 1: $17,320 instead of 19,094 Line 2: $ 9,487 instead of 8,805 Line 3: $26,807 instead of 27,899 The above figures were received recently, causing the total figure to be $1,100 less than the original figure. He then explained the expenses that were allocated between the Board and the Clerk. Mr. Barton pointed out that all capital goods of the County are owned by the Boand. Brief discussion ensued. On Motion made by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Wodtke, the Board unanimously approved the Finance Director's recommendation, and authorized the Chairman to sign the contracts for purchase of the IBM Displaywriter Systems. PUBLIC WORKS - COPY MACHINE FOR ROAD & BRIDGE DEPARTMENT The Board reviewed the following memorandum from Public Works Director Davis: 49 r MAY 26 1982 3 MAY 2 6 198 TO: The Honorable Members of DATE: May 10, 1982 the Board of County Commissioners FILE: THRU: David L. Greene SUBJECT: Request to Purchase New Copy Assistant County Administrator Machine tor''Road and Bridge Division FROM: ''�`J REFERENCE James W. Davis, P. S' Public Works Director DESCRIPTION AND CONDITIONS The Road and Bridge Division is in dire need of a new copy machine. The one presently.in use by our Department as well as Fleet Manage- ment is an antiquated 660 Xerox from Judge Stikelether's Office. ALTERNATIVES AND ANALYSIS . The -Road and Bridge Division has found it necessary to copy plat books and tax maps for field reference. In the -past, it has been necessary to depend on the Engineering Department to supply us with copies. This entails special trips to the Administration Building which could be avoided. It has also been our experience that when trying to copy documents, such as bills or invoices that are smaller than letter size, they w.ull jam and if on colored paper, will not copy. Paper is wasted with jams on the 660 Xerox and the cost of repairs exceeds $75.00 per hour. The cost of this new copier will increase at least 20% on October 1, 1982. The following alternatives are presented: Alternative #1 Purchase a new copy machine via State contract. This choice has been cleared with the Purchasing Division and is as per County Standard Operating Procedure. Cost is $3,328.00 plus install- ation charge of $70.00. x To purchase the copier, a line transfer is necessary from the Road and Bridge Division budget. Transfer from #102-214-541-66.42 (Automotive Capital Outlay). Transfer $2298.00 to #102-214-541-66.41, (Office Furn. & Equip.) this account has a balance of approx. $1100.00. The unencumbered balance in 102-214-541-66.42 is $115,174.00. We have excess funds in this account since less expensive graders and endloaders were purchased in 1982. Alternative #2 4 Do not purchase a copier and continue to maintain and use the 660 Xerox. RECOMMENDATIONS AND FUNDING It is recommended that a motion be made authorizing the Road and Bridge Division to line transfer $2,298.00 from account #102-214- 541-66.42 to Account #102-214-541-66.41 and approve the purchase of a new copy machine for $3,398.00 including installation. W F. Mr. Davis responded that they do not have a machine that is adequate for their needs; they must have one that will copy maps and reproduce lightly colored invoices. He added that they had worked their request through the Purchasing Division, who recommended buying a Savin under State contract for a total cost of $3,398, which included installation and a one-year warranty. Commissioner Bird advised the Board that he recently purchased a Sharp 741 copier locally for $1,800, and suggested to the Purchasing Department that they check into that possibility. Motion was made by Commissioner Lyons to table this matter until the Purchasing Agent could be present. The Motion.died for lack of a second. - Dennis Gentile, of the Road & Bridge Department, came before the Board and discussed various copy machines and their costs. Commissioner Bird felt there should be some computations made of the various machines being discussed. Mr. Davis suggested the staff be authorized to go through such an analysis and purchase the most economic unit. Motion was made by Commissioner Fletcher that the. Administrator be authorized to expend up to $2,500 on the purchase of a copy machine after a study has been made on the Savin and Sharp copiers. Discussion followed. Commissioner Fletcher withdrew his Motion. Motion was made by Commissioner Bird, seconded by Commissioner Fletcher for the Board to table any final action on this matter until staff can advise the Board at the next meeting of their findings. MAY 2 6 19-82- 9 W EI5 BOOK 49 PAW81 MAY 2-6 1992 Assistant Administrator Greene noted that there would not be sufficient time to gather this information as the cut-off time for the next meeting's Agenda is at noon today. Commissioner Bird withdrew his Motion, and Commissioner 4 Fletcher his second. On Motion made by Commissioner Bird, seconded by Commissioner Fletcher, the Board 'unanimously agreed to authorize the staff to spend up to $2,500 to purchase a copier of their choice, for a three year period; that the Board be supplied the back-up material to show justification f of the purchase; and that the funds for this purchase be transferred from Account #102-214-541-66.42 to Account #102-214-541-66.41. EQUIPMENT FOR TRAFFIC DIVISION Mr. Davis reviewed the following information with the Board: TO: The Honorable Members of the DATE: May 10, 1982 FILE: Board of County Commissioners 4 THRU: David L. Greene, Acting County Administrator SUBJECT: Request to Purchase Equipment for Traffic Division FROM: Jim Davis, P.E. REFERENCES: Public Works Dire 1tor DESCRIPTION AND CONDITIONS The Traffic Division is in need of replacing two vehicles which are due for major rebuilding. The 1975 Chevrolet sign truck is presently burning oil, has been driven over 100,000 miles, has been on fire previously, and will require much maintenance within the next 6 months. The Traffic Engineer's vehicle is a 1973 Ford Maverick. Metal fatigue, rusting, and repair work has been identified by the Vehicle Maintenance Division for this vehicle. - Also, since the Traffic Division was initiated October, 1981, other minor capital items have been identified which could be purchased with currently budgeted Road and Bridge funds. i ALTERNATIVES AND ANALYSIS A line transfer of $17,500.00 is.requested from Account #111-214-541-66.44 (Traffic Signals and Markers) into Account # 111-214-541-66.42 (Automotive). Approximately $30,000.00 is available in 66.44 that may advantageously be used to purchase capital equipment. These "excess" dollars resulted from three (3) conditions. 1. Increased efficiency in the sign shop's use of materials; 2. Increased selectivity in posting traffic control signs; and 3. Elimination of funding (through FDOT participation) or deferred (to FY82-83) for signalization of the intersection of 8th Street and SR S. The following schedule summarizes the requested budget transfer and proposed use: Transfer to 66.42 (Automotive): Truck chassis/cab, 1 ton HD (vehicle #100 replacement) Truck, economy, w/top (vehicle #73 replacement Total $10,500.00 $ 7,000.00 Also, the following equipment is needed to supply the Traffic Division: ADC Dye Cutter Set, 6" FHWA Series"ID" $ 650.00 Traffic Counters, recorder type, 2)000.00 2 @ $1,000 Traffic Counter Supplies 500.00 Total 3,150:00 A line transfer of #3,150, from Account number 111-214-541-66.44 (Traffic Signals and barkers) into Account # 111-214-541-66.41 (Office Furniture and Equipment) is requested. Alternatives include delaying this request until next year's budget, however, this is not recommended since both vehicles may need major repair prior to October, 1982. RECO'NSIENDATIONS AND FLWING It is recommended that a motion be made to 1) authorize a line transfer of $17,500. from Account #111-214-541-66.44 (Traffic Signals and Markers)to Account # 111-214-541-66.42 (Automotive) in order for the Traffic Division to purchase replacement vehicles for Vehicle # 100 (1 ton cab and chassis) and vehicle #,73 (1973 Ford Maverick). 2) Authorize a line transfer of $3,150. from Account #111-214-541-66.42 (Traffic Signals and Markers) to Account # 111-214-541-66.41 (Office Furniture and Equipment) in order for the Traffic Division to purchase traffic Equipment. MAY,2'6 1982 4 f814 7 MAYY 26 1982 .AM � Brief discussion followed about the 6" Cutter Set requested to be purchased. Michael Orr, Traffic Engineer, reported that the 6" letters are needed to make warning signs to be in 6 conformance with federal sign standards. The County currently has the 2" and 4" sizes that are used for making street name signs, but these are not adequate for making advanced warning signs. On Motion by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner Lyons, the Board unanimously approved the R recommendation to purchase replacement vehicles and traffic equipment as indicated in the memorandum dated May 10, 1982 from Public works Director Davis. DISCUSSION REGARDING ETHANOL FUELS Assistant County Administrator Greene reviewed his memorandum dated May 11, 1982, and a letter from the City Manager of St. Petersburg, as follows: TO: The Honorable Members of DATE: May 11, 1982 FILE: the Board of County Commissioners SUBJECT: Consortium Re: Ethanol Fuels. FROM: REFERENCES: REFERENCES: David L. Greene Assistant County Administrator Attached please find copy of correspondence from City of St. Petersburg. As is indicated in the correspondence, the City of St. Petersburg and Orange County are in the process of inviting Cities and Counties.through out the State to partici- pate in a consortium of local governments to explore the production. and use of ethanol fuels. The intent is to establish an alterna- tive.fuel which will meet future needs of -local governments at a reasonable cost. _ The group is asking each participating local government to contrib- ute $5000.00 towards the support of this program. The initial $5,000.00 would be necessary in order to commence the investigation required and to ascertain steps and actions to be taken in order to determine the viability of the concept. RECOW4ENDATION It is recommended that the Commission give consideration to this request and authorize Staff to contact the representatives of the corsortium as well as representatives of the Florida Inovation Group and invite them to a future County Commission meeting in order that the Commission may at that time make a decision as to whether or not it desires to become a member of the consortium. CITY OF ST PETERSBURG THE SUNSHINE CITY April 16, 1982 Mr. Jack Jennings A°;; 182 County Administrator n., Room' 115 Courthouse t., !•,t_*,,_ - _ Vero Beach, FL 32960 G Good Morning, Mr. Jennings: dQ J y 4 The City of St. Petersburg and Orange County are i' e process of inviting several cities and counties in Florida to participate in a consortium of. local governments to explore the production and use of` ethanol fuels. This program may partially answer our future needs for automotive fuel at reasonable cost while also returning significant revenues to the participating local governments. Since the 1979 fuel shortages, there has been substan- -tial interest in using alcohol as a vehicular fuel, either in pure form or as an extender (gasohol). The Energy Security Act of 1980 calls for the annual production of ten billion gallons of fermentation alcohol by 1990, about 10% of the total U.S. gasoline pool. Present annual production of ethanol is estimated at 250 million gallons. Our Florida consortium of governments plans to investigate: 1) The legal steps required to incorporate a non-profit local government consortium to cooperatively guarantee the purchase of a fixed -amount of ethanol each year, and/or build and operate an ethanol plant(s). 2) The availability of land owned by governments on which feedstock for the plant(s) could be grown and the potential financial return to the participating governments from such use. 3) The availability of private capital for construction and operation of an ethanol plant if commitments by local government to provide feedstock and to purchase the production were present. MAY 2 61,9829 Q*E $16. MAY 26 198 ADA 49 ' _ 4) The feasibility, including a technical and cost analysis, of converting vehicles to the burning of pure ethanol. 5) Financial advantage of using ethanol to produce gasohol for use in municipal fleets. 6) The availability of fuel such as methane from landfills, low pressure steam from garbage to energy facilities, waste 'heat from utility operations, etc. with which to powbr an ethanol plant and the potential financial return to the participating governments. We are requiring each participating government to contribute $5,000 to support this program. To date, ten Florida jurisdictions (St. Petersburg, Orange County, Ft. Lauderdale, Clearwater, Kissimmee, Lee County, Melbourne, Manatee County, Jacksonville, and Pinellas County) have committed to the program with another 15 seriously considering participation. Governments choosing not to participate wi]l not be allowed a second option at a later date in order -to protect the investment of the initial supporters. The legal work during this project will be conducted by -Clint Brown, a Tampa based attorney, who has extensive ex- perience in working with local governments.- The analysis on feedstock and vehicles will be conducted by the Florida Innovation Group who will contract with appropriate techni- cal and agricultural resources to successfully complete the analysis. I am firmly convinced that the future holds nothing but escalating fuel prices as well as possible shortages for local government. I call your attention to the enclosed articles from the March 15, 1982 issue of Forbes Magazine and the September/October, 1981 issue of the Harvard Business Review. The Harvard Business Review article is alerting private sector companies to get prepared for coming shortages. I most certainly feel that local government should share the concern of the private sector in regard to what the future holds for fossil fuels. A steady source of ethanol would permit- us to extend our supplies. A guaranteed- purchase agreement with an alcohol plant could provide a substantial price advantage. The use of pure alcohol would reduce our dependency on gasoline as our only primary fuel. The potential of local government equity in ethanol facilities in partnership with the private sector also offers potentially attractive new revenue sources for Florida local governments. We want to get this project underway during June, 1982 so I ask you to seriously consider and confirm your government's participation and financial support as soon as possible. The Florida Innovation Group will serve as the agent to receive the funds for this program. FIG will set up a special account, provide monthly financial statements, and disburse funds upon approval by a Project Financial Committee of participating local governments. Either Paul Yingst of my staff or Bob Havlick of the Florida', Innovation Group will contact your office within 'the next few weeks to determine your interest and need for a detailed briefing in your jurisdiction. The financial risk we are asking you to consider is small when compared to the potentials for a guaranteed, renewable fuel supply and new revenue sources. I hope you will join us. Sincerely, 17 n N. Harvey (J _ 1 -y Manager } Mr. Greene recommended that we keep an open mind and invite representatives to a future Board meeting so they can present their concept; then this matter could be explored further. Motion was made by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Fletcher, that the Board accept the recommendation of the Assistant Administrator, as indicated in his memorandum dated May 11, 1982. Commissioner Lyons felt this was a very good idea. The Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and carried unanimously. ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION FOR DR. C. B. HARDIN Assistant Administrator Greene suggested that C. B. Hardin's salary be increased to the level that the Administrator vitas being"'paid annually of $35,587.50, which would be the interim compensation from June 4th until a new Administrator was hired. Mr. Greene added that June 4th would be his last day of work with the County, and it was the beginning of a new pay period. Motion was made by Commissioner Fletcher, -seconded by Commissioner Lyons, that the Board approve the interim compensation of $35,587.50 for C. B. Hardin, beginning June 4, 1982, until a new Administrator was hired. Discussion then turned to the Assistant Administrator's salary, which was $32,800 a year. The Board felt they were remiss in not paying the Administrator's salary of $35,587.50 to Mr. Greene during the time he acted as Administrator, and should give him some retroactive consideration. The 'Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and carried unanimously. Motion was made by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Bird, that Mr. Greene be paid at the $35,587.50 rate for the period of time he acted as Administrator, and that he be given a letter of recommendation. MAY 26 1982 11 - QIIi�F1"-- 9. f4f MAY 2 6 198 Commissioner Wodtke thought that Mr. Greene was entitled to severance pay, and amended the Motion to include one month's severance,pay. Chairman Scurlock interjected that he would rather compensate instead of giving severance pay. The amendment died for lack of a second. The Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and carried unanimously. CIRCUIT CONFLICT COMMITTEE - APPOINTMENT The Board reviewed the following material: f . � m MARTIN COUNTY OFFICE: OFFICE OF (MAIN OFFICE) SUITE 215, COURTHOUSE ANNEX ELTON H. SCHWARZ P. O. BOX 2314 STUART. FLORIDA X33495-2314 PUBLIC DEFENDER (305) 283-6760 NINETEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT OF FLORIDA SUNCOM: 479-1193 April 27, 1982 DIRECT LINES TO IGAIN OFFICE: (305) 287-2966 (STUART) ( 305 ) 464-8564 ( FORT PIERCE) ( 305 ) 562-1515 (VERO BEACH) (305) 746-7184 (WEST PALM BEACH) (8t3) 763-7979 (OKEECHOBEE) 'REPLY TO: Stuart Honorable Don C. Scurlock, Jr., Chairman Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County 1840 - 25th Street Suite N-158 Vero Beach, Florida 32960 Re: Compensation of Attorneys Appointed to Handle Conflict Cases Dear Mr. Scurlock: I am pleased to advise that the Legislature appropriated $71,400 to my office for Fiscal Year 19$2-83 to assist toward compensation of court appointed attorneys in conflict cases. A copy of the proviso language contained in the Appropriations Act concerning this subject is enclosed herewith. Additional information concerning allocation of the funds between the varidus counfa.es an of er re ated matters is expected to be I theZegis a ive a er o-i'nten w is s ouI:d be available by-the--mi-ddi-e of --Ma Since this becomes effective July 1, 1982, I would'suggest that the Circuit Conflict Committee meet either the latter part of May or the first of June so that we can try and decide what we are supposed to do. Since each Board of County Commissioners is to designate by resolution a representative of the Board to serve on this committee, I will appreciate your taking this matter up at your next meeting and furnishing me with a copy of whatever resolution is adopted. 12 0 l Motion was made by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner Bird, that the Chairman of the' Board serve on this committee, and that each Chairman thereafter continue to serve. Discussion followed, and the Board could not determine who would best be suited to serve on the committee at this time. Commissioner Fletcher withdrew his Motion, and Commissioner Bird withdrew his second. On Motion made by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner Bird, the Board unanimously agreed that the Chairman should get together with the County Attorney and come up with a suggestion as to the appropriate person to serve on this committee by the next Board meeting. j AGREEMENT BETWEEN COUNTY AND SOUTH BEACH WATER SERVICE Attorney Brandenburg reviewed the proposed Agreement with the Board and advised that the City has agreed to it. He referred to Section 1, Paragraph 5, and suggested that the first phrase read: "....upon notification by the County to the City that the subaqueous crossing is -complete and that County is ready to provide service." Motion was made by Commissioner Wodtke, seconded by Commissioner Lyons, that the Board approve the agreement as amended, and authorize execution of thesagreement by the Chairman. The Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and carried with a vote of 4 to 1, with Commissioner Fletcher voting in opposition. MAY 26' 1982 13 r r r. ' 49 E821 AGREEMENT THIS AGREEMENT, made this, qday of ,- 1982, by and between the CITY OF VERO BEACH, FLORIDA, a municipal corporation organized under the laws of the State of Florida, (City), and INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, a political subdivision of the State of Florida, (County), WITNESSETH: WHEREAS, the City and the County entered into an agreement dated the 16th day of September, 1981 entitled "Sough Beach Water Service", and WHEREAS, by paragraph 5 of that agreement the City became obligated to convey certain items to the County by the lst day.of November, 1981, and WHEREAS, this deadline has not been met, and WHEREAS, by paragraph 6 of the agreement the County became obligated to let certain contracts within a six-month time frame, and WHEREAS, this six-month time frame was not met, and WHEREAS, both parties have agreed to amend the agreement dated September 16, 1981, accordingly. t' NOW, THEREFORE, the City and the County agree to amend that agreement as follows: Section 1 - Paragraph 5 The first phrase of paragraph 5 "On or before the first day of November..." shall be changed to "Upon notification by the County to the City that the sub -aqueous crossing is complete and that County is ready to provide service." Section 2 - Paragraph 6 The six-month time frame for the letting of the contract shall be extended by an additional 120 days. Section 3 -.All Other Agreements to Remain the Same Except for the agreements in Setion 1 and 2 of this agreement, the agreement of September 16, 1901, shall remain in -1- Ff- i W_ full force and effect. ATTEST: CITY OF VERO BEACH, FLORIDA _ By 9#09 PfAirPIZ City 'lerk Mayor Approved a*; to form and Approved by: legal sufficiency: City Attorney City anage ATTEST: INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA By: Clerk, Circuit urt Chairman, Board of C y Y T�� �.� . Commissioners Approved as to form and legal ffia4en n Attorney 7 f .;� MAY49 `82a TO: Board of DATE: May 11, 1982 FILE: County Commissioners FROM: Gary M. Brand County Attorn SUBJECT: Abandonment of Suit #81-09 Division of Administration, State of Florida; Dept. of Transportation and Indian River County v. Paul Hofffian REFERENCES: When the County originally began proceedings to condemn property for the extensioneof Barber Avenue to the proposed extension of Indian River Boulevard one parcel was omitted. The parcel located on the south side. of -the proposed intersection of Barber Avenue and Indian River Boulevard running to the east was thought to be owned by the Trustees of the Internal Improvement. Trust Fund of the State of.Florida. When it -was determined that the State did not own the parcel, Ralph Evans brought Case No. 8I-09 on behalf of :DOT and Indian..River:.County to acquire the parcel. Subsequently, the County formally abandoned current plans for the Indian River Boulevard Extension. The law suit has laid dormant ever since. The attorney for the property owner filed a --Motion to Dismiss the condemnation suit for lack of progress and to tax attorney fees. Instead of wasting the Court's time and incurring additional attorney fees and expenses, I called Mr. Slinkman and suggested that he write the letter that appears as an attachment to this memorandum. The County Attorney respectfully.requests your approval to execute a voluntary dismissal of the law suit and further authorize payment of a.$400.00 attorney fee to Mr. Slinkman. On. Motion made by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Fletcher, the Board unanimously authorized the County Attorney to execute a Notice of Voluntary Dismissal, and that $400 be paid to Attorney Slinkman. Attorney Brandenburg discussed the adjacent strip of property that the County had acquired, through the original condemnation, for a settlement of $2,000. The NS&T Bank of New York is now requesting that this settlement be paid; then the County would have clear title. He added that the adjoining property owner may possibly be interested in purchasing that strip of property from the County. r Motion was made by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner Lyons, that the Attorney be authorized to negotiate with the bank regarding the $2,000 settlement for this land, and that this matter be brought back to the Board. Lengthy discussion ensued, and it was determined there would be no negotiation; the County owes the bank in New York $2,000 to settle this matter. Commissioner Fletcher excused himself at 9:35 o'clock A.M. in order to attend the Emergency Medical Service Committee meeting for a few minutes. The Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0, Commissioner Fletcher being temporarily out of the Chambers. CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMITS The Attorney reviewed the following memorandum from Dr. C. B. Hardin dated May 10, 1982: r .=card of County Commissioners CL.- , r C. B. Hardin, r., FROM: Asst, to Co. Admin. Gary M. Brandenburg County Attorney May 10, 1982 FILE: SUBJECT: Moratorium on the Issuance of Concealed Weapons' Permits and Indian River County Ph.D. REFERENCES: The Board of County Commissioners at their March 3, 1982 meeting imposed a moratorium on the issuance of concealed weapons' permits. As the Commission recalls, the moratorium was imposed because of an inconsistency between the course for firearms handling safety required by the ordinance and that actually available from the Sheriff's Department together with difficulties in processing back- ground checks on applicants. Section 8-16 of the County Code of Law and Ordinances provides as follows: "The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County, Florida, shall designate by resolution those courses in instruction, satisfactory completion of which _ is required for compliance with Section 8-12 of this article, but in no case shall a course be designated which fails as a minimum to meet the required criteria for Class "G" statewide gun permits specified in Chapter 1C-3.17 of the Rules.of the Department of State for private investigative agencies." There are three alternatives available for eliminating the incon- sistencies; 1- To make'the requirements of Section 8-16 of the County's Code more lenient, thus complying with the current course available at the Sheriff's -Department. 2- Request the Sheriff's Department to upgrade the course require- ments to meet that specified in the County Code (i.e. required criteria for Class G statewide gun permit). 3- Request the Sheriffs Department to review the criteria for Class G statewide gun permits and recommend to the County Commission a modified version of same that will satisfy the needs of the County. Because the requirements for such a course clearly fall within the bailiwick of the Sheriff's Department, these writers recommend the third alternative. It should be noted that once the course requirements are specified by the Sheriff's Department and adopted by the County Section 8-24 of the current law would allow the County to charge an appropriate administrative fee to cover the cost of classroom or range instruction. Respectfully submitted, C. B. Hardin, Jr., Ph.D. , Asst. to County Admin./ Personnel Director L G � y Braude uro _ C un y Atto Motion was made by Commissioner Bird, seconded by Commissioner Lyons, that the Board accept Alternate Three in the memo from C. B. Hardin of May 10, 1982. A brief discussion followed, and it was determined that a representative from the Sheriff's Department and a representative from the County would meet within 30 days and review the procedures for the issuance of permits for concealed weapons, and that the moratorium be extended until the matter is settled. Commissioner Wodtke offered to act as the County representative and work with the Sheriff's Department in this regard. The Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and carried unanimously, with Commissioner Fletcher being temporarily out of the Chambers. PROPOSED ORDINANCE REGARDING "KTW" AMMUNITION On Motion made by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Bird, the Board unanimously authorized the Attorney to advertise for a public hearing regarding the proposed ordinance prohibiting the possession of a teflon coated handgun or firearm ammunition currently sold under the brand name "KTW." CONSENT ORDER FOR TREASURE COAST UTILITIES Attorney Brandenburg requested that•no action be taken on the matter regarding the Consent Order for Treasure Coast Utilities, as he was not comfortable with one of the provisions. He advised that he would bring it back to the Board once he has worked out the provision. QUAY DOCK ROAD Attorney Brandenburg explained the following memorandum dated May 11, 1982: MAY 2.6 1982 MAY Z6 TO: Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County FROM: Gary M. Brandenburg County Attorney 191#E827 : { DATE: May 11, 1982 FILE: SUBJECT: Quay Dock Road REFERENCES: Mr. Holmes has commenced Case No. 82-67 in the Circuit Court for Indian River County. This law suit is an attempt to end a dispute that has been ongoing for many years over the ownership of the por- tion of Quay Dock -Road that runs through Government Lot 3 to its point of intersection with the Indian River. The County Attorney, County Administrator and County Engineer have met with Mr. Roddenberry, attorney for Mr. Holmes, and Mr. Telkamp, the property owner to the north, in an effort to resolve the dispute and forever put to rest the questions involved. The letter attached to this memorandum represents a proposal from the concerned property owners. The proposal is as follows: A. Mr. Telkamp will convey by quit claim deed all property lying 25' north of the center line of Quay Dock Road. This will forever settle the ownership of the north one-half of the road- way. B. Mr. Telkamp will convey by quit claim deed the property located beyond the end of the pavement extending to the Indian River south of the drainage ditch and north of the Holmes/Telkamp line. This will forever settle the question of access all the way to the Indian River. This also corresponds to the historic route to the old dock. C. The County will improve and maintain the drainage ditch on the north side of the road (requiring work on approximately the last 1001). This is desirable from the County standpoint of improving drainage in the area. D. The County will culvert the ditch on the north side of Quay Dock Road at a point which would provide convenient access to the northern property. This culverting is necessary as clear- ing and deepening of the ditch will make it impossible for the north property owner to reach his property. E. Provide a turnaround on the north side of the road lined with cutoff telephone poles or other appropriate traffic channeling devices (provide culvert in ditch if,necessary) to provide enough space for a turnaround. F. Agree that the area between the terminus of the road and the Indian River be left in the same natural condition that it has been in for the last forty years. G. Accept a drainage easement from Mr. Holmes for the ditch on the south side of Quay Dock Road. H. Place a culverted turnaround at the southern side of the intersection of Government Lot 3 and Quay Dock Road. This will provide a means of turnaround for individuals who do not desire to go all the way to the river. i I. Provide appropriate signage at the west boundary of Government Lot 3 indicating that Quay Dock Road has been designated by the County Commission as a scenic route., indicating the .importance of this designation, giving a brief history of the road and possibly designating the area as a bird or nature sanctuary. J. File a corrected maintenance map showing the road with a path as outlined in the foregoing paragraphs. The County Attorney recommends approval of this proposal for the following reasons; 1. It will forever settle the public's right to travel the entire length of Quay Dock Road all the way to the Indian River. 2. It will improve the drainage of all the properties along Quay Dock Road and insure the County's ability to maintain said drainage in the future. 3. It will require amendment of the maintenance map to accurately describe Quay Dock Road as it historically developed. 4. The cost to the County of implementing these improvements will be less in the long run than the cost of proceeding with further litigation which may have uncertain results. Resp qBrand mitted, urg ty Attorney Brandenburg displayed a map for the Board, and explained the situation on Quay Dock Road. Chairman Scurlock interjected that Attorney Roddenberry was on his way to the Board meeting; he would like to participate in the discussion. a The Board decided to postpone this matter until Attorney Roddenberry arrived. Commissioner Fletcher returned to the Commission Chambers at 9:45 o'clock A.M. He briefly discussed the proposed ordinance regarding the ammunition, and requested that Reed Knight, Jr. be contacted in order to get his feelings on the matter. MAY 2 6 1982 60% 9 Few2$ 21 MAY 26 19$2 FINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE - REPORT Chairman Scurlock advised that at the Finance Advisory Committee meeting, they analyzed the scope of services for the auditing firm, and recommended it be conveyed to the Audit Selection Committee. He added that they also talked of the possible need for a Financial Advisor for the County. The Chairman continued that they had looked at the scope of work in a similar community, and will soon be coming forth with a recommendation to the Board. BUDGET WORKSHOP - REQUESTED BY SHERIFF Chairman Scurlock reviewed the following memorandum dated May 13, 1982: 70: 'Don C. Scurlock, Jr. Chairman J:V�: Liz Forlani DATA: May 13, 1982 S^ r^ 1• Request from Roy Raymond Sheriff's Office. R.:FEEREt 0 IES: Mr. Raymond is requesting that the County Commission hold a workshop prior to the budget workshop in order to review three capital expense items and to have expertise in each field give a presentazion. The following are the items to be discussed: 1. Change over in the present telephone system. Southern Bell will mace the presentation 2. Conversion of patrol vehicles to propane fuel This is a big initial expense, but over the years this conversion could save money 3. Word Processor Machines Lanier representative will make presentation. June 9th, the second Wednesday in June, is an open daze ain.%d. wou..d be convenient for Mr. Raymon;: and the Southern Bel representative but whatever: date is convenient for t :e Co,:::issic will oe all right with him and he will make the necessGr:, arrangements. . Mr. Raymond stated that if you wish to get more de aile regarding these items, please give him a call and he will go :.ver then, wit.. you. On Motion made by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Fletcher, the Board unanimously agreed to hold a workshop with the Sheriff on June 9, 1982, with the hours to be determined later. OUT -OF -COUNTY TRAVEL On Motion by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Wodtke, the Board unanimously approved out -of -County travel for the Chairman, and a member of the Finance Committee, to attend a Governmental Seminar in Daytona Beach Shores, Florida, on June 11, 1982. MOBILE HOME ADVISORY COMMITTEE - AT -LARGE APPOINTMENT Commissioner Fletcher reviewed the following resume from Belle Taylor: O 4. 4atoo h U � • MAY 2 6.1982 49 830 1 23 MAY 2 6 1982 UIX 83 Commissioner Fletcher recommended that an interview be set up with Ms. Taylor. Liz Forlani, Administrative Assistant to the Board, stated that she would make the arrangements for an interview with Ms. Taylor. EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES COMMITTEE - REPORT Commissioner Fletcher commented that a meeting was taking place at the present time in the Conference Room of the Emergency Medical Services Committee. He advised that Dr. Lucas was presenting a plan that would be analyzed by the committee members. TRANSPORTATION PLANNING COMMITTEE - REPORT The Board reviewed the following memorandum from Jim Davis, Public Works Director, as follows: `�• Co.i-.issioner Grover Fletcher Cha.L.,Mn, Transportation Planning Conzuttee VIA: iJ _" :.. Greene, Assistant County Administrator .~ �.V� .V• h��✓ T im Davis, G Public Works Director , uay.14, 1982 a i 3 EZ: U 3J &EEC T: Transportation P1a1mi,:g CoZZMit Lee Report May 11, 1982 RErFE EN,CES: T::e following action was taken by the Transportation Planrdng Co,zittee for your report to the Board of Coimty Com, .issioners 1) 16th Street.T.;I.P. a. Project to include cost of student pick-up/drop-off in front of school (see sketch) estimated cost $45,000. b. Amend speed limit from. 35-40 :MIPH to 30 MPH (US 1 to 43rd Av). 2) Access to Sebastian Elementary School a. Proceed to pave Powerline Road; b. Continue work on ROW acquis."...on of Lateral "A1l north of CR 510 into Sc'nariarn Drive. 3�- T •O S L.. met L-ohtir.g a. ?olicy raco..Lmerded of urser meas for . 1. 36 t;h' &.37-&, Sts. east of HS 1 AM 2. M 505A @ Lundberg Road Y ;.RCC Commissioner Fletcher referred to Item 3 in the memorandum regarding Street Lighting, and stated that it was the unanimous decision of the Transportation Planning Committee that the cost of such lighting be borne by the user. In this case, it would be the hospital and the Junior college who would foot the bill. Mr. Davis interjected that the Committee agreed with the philosophy that the user should pay, but he did not get a firm decision of who the user was; it was not quite clear MAY 2 6 l 8z P 25 i junior college and the hospital, or the people living in the area. Lengthy discussion followed. Commissioner Lyons reminded the Board that some people on 37th Street were paying $1 a month for street lights, and he felt it would be unfair to go ahead and light the rest of the street as a contribution from the General or Municipal Fund and charge those people for the street lights. Chairman Scurlock inquired if anybody had approached the hospital or City to see about joint participation in street lighting. Mr. Davis reported that it had been one of the recommendations to the Board prior to them passing it on to the Transportation Planning Committee. Discussion ensued about the possibility of setting up a lighting district in the area of the hospital. Motion was made by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Fletcher, that the Board inform the junior college that it was not its policy to place lights on access streets in individual cases. Commissioner Wodtke stated that the junior college did not request the light - he had brought it up before the Board for discussion. Commissioner Lyons withdrew his Motion, and Commissioner Fletcher withdrew his second. Commissioner Wodtke stated that the City of Vero Beach has a transmission station near the intersection of Lundberg Road and Kings Highway; possibly they could illuminate that station and at the same time; the intersection would be illuminated. Mr. Davis commented that, he would check into that possibility, as it was a good suggestion. i After a brief discussion, the Board felt it would also be a good idea to review the current list of lights. Commissioner Fletcher next discussed Item 2 regarding access to Sebastian Elementary School. He advised that a cost analysis was being done regarding the paving of Powerline Road. He continued that the Committee requested that staff be given permission to continue work on right-of-way acquisition of Lateral A. Mr. Davis stated that the County has maintained a portion of that road. Motion was made by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner Lyons, that the Board accept the recommendation of the Transportation Planning Committee -regarding acquisition of voluntary rights-of-way, with the help of the Road & Bridge Department. - Brief discussion followed. The Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and carried unanimously. Commissioner Fletcher referred to Item la regarding Sixteenth Street. He stated that the gas tax money should be used for the project, and improvements on the school property should be borne by the school. Mr. Davis advised that the drop-off point for students is on 17th Avenue; the School Board has ,agreed to do other traffic -related problems internally. On Motion made by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Fletcher, the Board unanimously accepted the recommendation of the Transportation Planning Committee in connection with the 16th Street Project to include the student pick-up and drop-off in front of the school. Commissioner Fletcher referred to Item lb regarding the speed limit. MAY 2 6 1982 saox9 $34 27 MAY 261982 49 X835 1 A brief discussion ensued about various speed limits, synchronization of lights, and the various public buildings in the area. Motion was made by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Fletcher, that the Board accept the recommendation of the Transportation Planning Committee to amend the speed limit from 35-40 mph to 30 mph from U.S. #1 to 43rd Avenue. Chairman Scurlock felt this was not a permanent change and it could be readdressed. V The Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and carried unanimously. The Board recessed briefly at 10:35 o'clock A.M., and Deputy Clerk Hargreaves took over from Deputy Clerk Caldwell for the remainder of the meeting. ADD ON ITEMS Commissioner Fletcher stated that he needed some clarification in regard to the discussion held at the last meeting in regard to the $1.00 per run recommended for the North County Fire District and he would like that added under his items today. On Motion by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner Bird, the Board unanimously added the above emergency item to today's agenda as requested by Commissioner Fletcher. CONTINUATION OF DISCUSSION RE QUAY DOCK ROAD Attorney Brandenburg continued to discuss the basis for settlement, noting that if the improvements are made and the terms of the settlement are accepted, Mr. Holmes then would dismiss the lawsuit. With regard to agreeing that the area between the terminus of the road and the Indian River will be left in the same natural condition that it has been in the last 40 years, he suggested we talk in terms of the County being able to make certain improvements which would correspond to what was historically in that area. Commissioner Wodtke felt it would be preferable if the wording in Paragraph F read something more like "agree that the area between the terminus of the road and the Indian River be left as much as possible in its present state and the County would have the right to make any improvements to restore it to its historic condition." He noted that while he did not want to put a dock or bridge there, he felt the present wording would, in essence, restrict us from doing anything with it. . Chairman Scurlock agreed, stating that he would MAY 2 6 1982 29 Box p f:$ MAS Z 6.1982 envision possibly a pathway, a gazebo, or some type of look -out over the river. Attorney Roddenbury stated that he could only take this back to Mr. Telkamp, but he did not see the type of thing the Chairman is talking about as being a problem. Motion was made by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner Lyons, to approve the settlement regarding Quay Dock Road as proposed in Attorney Brandenburg''s 'letter of May 11, 1982, and as modified by the wording suggested by Commissioner Wodtke for Paragraph F. f Leon Blanton took the floor and emphasized that the public believes this property belongs to the people and they do not want any stipulation in the deed that will restrict use of the property by the general public in the future. 'He further noted that the reason the property has been in this condition for the last 40 years is that the situation has been so hostile, people did not use it. Mr. Blanton continued that while he would not oppose it, he felt the turn -around proposed in Paragraph H was a total waste of the public's money. He appreciated the fact that Mr. Holmes and Mr. Telkamp are working with us and did not want to waste money on a court action, but felt that with an attorney as competent as he believed Mr. Brandenburg to be that the jury never would give away this property which belongs to the public. Attorney Brandenburg believed if you take into consideration the amount of money that would be spent in litigation vs. expending a few dollars on the package settlement proposed, it is well worth it. He did believe the results of the litigation'are uncertain, and that is why he is recommending settlement. 1. Mr. Blanton reiterated that this belongs to the County; the County should be able to designate what they want to do se with it in the future; and he did not want to see it tied up in legalities. Commissioner Lyons personally had no problem with some limitations on the use of the property since he did not believe we want that road to be the terminus of a road going across the river. Chairman Scurlock also did not anticipate us constructing.major improvements or a new traffic pattern across the river, such as the 17th Street Bridge, but believed we do need the ability to put in a nature trail and possibly some structure to overlook the river. Discussion continued re language to achieve this end. Commissioner Fletcher and Commissioner Lyons restated their previous Motion to approve the proposal set out in Attorney Brandenburg's letter of May 11, 1982, as modified by Mr. Wodtke's suggested wording that the area between the terminus of the road and the Indian River be left in its present state as much as possible and any improvements would be made in keeping with the natural and historical character of the property. Chairman Scurlock called for the question. It was voted on and carried unanimously. DISCUSSION RE TAKE OVER OF BUILDING DEPARTMENT Chairman Scurlock noted that the proposed County take-over of the Building Department has been discussed for quite a few years. He reported that Carolyn Long of Long Associates, Inc., now has done a study in regard to the proposed take-over, which he has reviewed, and, in addition, he talked to the Treasure Coast Builders Association last week and 'encouraged input from the building trades so that when we do make this transfer, it can be done in an orderly way. The Chairman believed that whenever this does take place, .it should coincide with the start of a new budget year. MAY 2 6 1882 31 BOX �� WE 008 IAY 2 6 1982 neo 49 839 Considerable discussion ensued revolving around the fact that the County, at present, is very short of key personnel, i.e., the Administrator, Assistant Administrator and head of the Planning & Zoning Department, and this may 4 not be the most appropriate time to make such a move. It was further noted that six months' notification is required, and Assistant Administrator Greene reported that in February, 1982, a letter was sent to Vero Beach City Manager John Little indicating a date of October 1, 1982, for the proposed take-over. f Commissioner Wodtke felt the report by Long & Associates was excellent, but pointed out that it is based only on a one year period, and he believed we need more background to get a better picture of the overall situation, permit structure, personnel organization, etc., in order to be able to determine whether this should be set up as a joint operation or a County only department. City of Vero Beach Finance Director, Tom Nason, informed the Board that while he has not had any input from the City Council on this matter, staff has reviewed it. If the transfer went along with the previous letter of notifi- cation, they would recommend the City retain their own. Building Department; however, on the basis of a long range setup where there would be the opportunity to negotiate and come up with a common ground all could agree upon, they felt something could be worked out. Mr. Nason continued that they have prepared two budgets - one in which they continue as at present and one based on the City continuing on its own. He personally was of the opinion that they would like to continue as a joint department at least for this year. Discussion followed about the charges presently being made to the joint enterprise by the City, the estimated revenues, and the considerable amount of construction activity in the County as opposed to the City. Chairman 0 a► M Scurlock felt the ratio is about 2/3 to 1/3. Mr. Nason reported that the projected revenue for the County is $180,000 and $147,000 for the City; it was noted that although there is more activity in the County, there are bigger and more costly projects in the City. Mr. Nason agreed that the City is built up to about the 80% level. The Board continued to review the many factors involved that need to be addressed before making any transfer, and Mr. Nason emphasized the need to address this jointly and also the need for a further costs analysis re equipment and time involved, etc. Chairman Scurlock agreed there would be a question about work in progress as well as many other items. He pointed out that this take-over has been proposed for quite a few years and believed it is time to seta time schedule and do something specific. Reference was made to the letter sent to the City in February stating that the County would take over the Building Department on October 1, 1982, and Chairman Scurlock believed such letters should not be sent out without the specifics being worked out first. He noted that we have never received.a formal response from the City indicating what they will or will not do. Questions arose as to coordination between the Building, Planning and Zoning Departments. Commissioner Wodtke stated that he was firmly committed to the belief that we need to have a County Building Department tied in with our Planning & Zoning Departments as soon as economically feasible and'that we also need a satellite facility In the North County area, but he felt a lot more needs to be done to work this all out. Commissioner Lyons did not feel we need to settle all the various. problems now, but that the main issue is to get MAY 26:98 33 _. MAY 26 1982 .9 841 a new Community Development Director and County Administra- tor on board first. He wondered if the City of Vero Beach would consider a situation where a certain number of months after we have the necessary staff - even if this should 4 occur mid -year - we could effect the "marriage" or "divorce" of this department. Mr. Nason commented that he believed one of the things absent so far has been contact with the city, and they would like to be involved. He suggested setting up a committee composed of two or three representatives from the County, 2 f or 3 from the City and several from the building trades to make a study and set up areas that can be agreed upon. Motion was made by Commissioner Bird that a letter be directed to the City of Vero Beach informing them that we would not be able to meet our timetable of October 1, 1982, for forming a joint City -County Building & Zoning Depart- ment; that we would like to readjust that timetable to October 1, 1983; and that we also would proceed to form a liaison committee made up of representatives from the City, the County and the building trades for the purpose of laying the groundwork for a proper transfer of these responsibilities to a countywide Building & Zoning Department. Commissioner Wodtke agreed to second the Motion if it could be stated that a decision would be reached sooner, and Commissioner Bird agreed to include in the Motion that it would be the burden of the committee to make a recommenda- tion 6 months before. October 1, 1983. Commissioner Wodtke seconded the Motion. Building Director Esther 'Rymer wished to speak to the comment made in the report done by Long Associates, Inc., about two inspectors riding around together. She felt it is necessary to know the whole workings of this department before you can make an adequate study. With 96 million of construction done in 1981 and 25 million for four months this year, and only one plumbing inspector and one building inspector.., Mrs. Rymer believed that they have done a very good job and they never had had nothing to do. She explained that they try to route their worksheets every day so that inspections can be carried out in the most economical and logical manner possible without wasting gas. Sometimes the men ride together to avoid double trips to make inspections and also this is how they train new personnel. Peter Robinson, builder and developer, commented that the builders' main concern is having a good, efficient building department and they don't care who controls it. He believed the Building Department is running quite well right now under Mrs. Rymer's control, and agreed that the Board should take the time needed to review the situation as per the Motion. The Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and carried unanimously. REPORT ON TRIP TO VIEW JAIL IN PINELLAS COUNTY Commissioner Lyons reported that members of the sub -committee of the Public Safety Committee, which is working on selection of an architect for design of a new jail, traveled to Pinellas County to view the work done by Watson Architects. He continued that yesterday they interviewed -Watson and Company, and Frizzell Architects, both of which seem to be good prospects. He commented that Frizzell recently added a staff member who has quite a record of jails which are of interest. Captain Bill Baird will look'at one in Rome, Georgia, on his own, and Commissioner Lyons suggested that we send Art Schereen to view this also. On Motion by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Wodtke, the Board unanimously approved MAY 2 6 1982 �Qff 35 49 4 Jail Architect Selection to inspect the jail in Rome, Georgia. REQUEST OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR NEW RESOLUTION RE BUILDING OF JAIL Commissioner Lyons informed the Board that in a previous Resolution sent to the Department of Corrections we only stated that we planned to build a jail within five years provided we get state funding. The DOC apparently does not feel that is a strong enough commitment, and they f would like to have us commit ourselves to a plan to build a jail in the next three years. Commissioner Lyons recommended that the Board go along with this request. He pointed out that if we should put ourselves in a position where we come under federal mandate in regard to building a jail, the construction costs could increase considerably. Motion was made by Commissioner Lyons that the Board authorize preparation of a Resolution advising the head of the State Department of Corrections, Mr. Wainwright, that we are planning to build a jail in the next three years. Commissioner Wodtke suggested adding a statement that we plan to build based on availability of State funds, but Commissioner Lyons did not believe that is necessary. He commented that you can plan to build a jail, but if you don't get funds, you don't build it. Commissioner Wodtke noted that the Legislature is going to have to address getting funds available for this type activity and he felt this might encourage them in that direction. Commissioner Lyons argued that this simply continues to wave a red flag at the person we are doing business with and he did not want to aggravate the situation because he felt we are playing with fire. Commissioner Fletcher stated that he had no problem with drawing up a new Resolution if the Attorney understands the concerns of the Commission. He noted that he just wanted to be sure that when we give our word, we are going to be able to carry it out. Commissioner Lyons pointed out that you won't know this until you have the funds in hand, but you can always plan. He believed it is in the Board's interest to pursue this. Chairman Scurlock felt that we all realize that we must have a jew jail facility within 3 to 5 years or some of the prisoners will have to be turned loose. He personally did not have a problem with a new Resolution. Commissioner Lyons reported that the Public Safety Committee unanimously endorsed a recommendation to say we are planning to have a -new jail in three years. Commissioner Wodtke stated that he was not against agreeing we should have the jail in three years, but felt we should have the necessary funds. Commissioner Lyons continued to stress that the Department of Corrections has asked that we submit a stronger Resolution and he did not want to play games with them or we might find that our interim improvements are not sufficient to satisfy the State. Commissioner Lyons stated that unless we have some satisfactory Motion he would have no interest in continuing to work on the Jail committee. Commissioner Fletcher seconded the Motion made by Commissioner Lyons to authorize preparation of a Resolution advising the State Department of Corrections that we are planning to build a Jail within the next three years. Discassion continued about possible methods of funding, such as our portion of the increased_Sales Tax, etc., and Commissioner Wodtke reiterated that he agrees with building the jail in three years, but just worries about the funds. MAYI 26 1982 Box 9PASS $4.� y 37 MAY 2,6; 1982 - oar :49 P . The Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and carried unanimously. Commissioner Wodtke wished to stipulate and have it reflected in the Minutes that his Aye vote was based on d availability of funds. APPOINTMENT TO LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD Commissioner Lyons reported that David Brewster, who is president of the Vero Beach Library Association, has been recommended by their Board to be a member of the Library Advisory Board. R Commissioner Wodtke recommended the appointment of Ralph Evans to this Board as a representative of District 4. On Motion by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner Lyons, the Board unanimously appointed David Brewster and Ralph Evans to the Library Advisory Board. STATUS OF FOURTH COURTROOM Chairman Scurlock reported that he had received a letter from C. E. Block Architect re the Annex Courtroom renovations indicating that Mr. Block does not wish to pursue working on this project. Mr. Block stated that since the basic AIA contracts he submitted have not been satisfactory to the County, he, therefore, would prefer that we select someone else for this job. Chairman Scurlock reviewed the events in regard to negotiation of this contract including discussions with Attorney Brandenburg and Commissioner Fletcher. Commissioner Lyons asked if we had authorized Mr. Fletcher to negotiate on this contract. Attorney Brandenburg explained that the last time this contract came before the Board, there were questions about the AIA contract. He, accordingly, scheduled a meeting to go over this with Mr. Block and Administrator Greene. On the day of the meeting, Mr. Greene was not present and it just so happened that Commissioner Fletcher was present; he, t therefore, invited Mr. Fletcher to attend the meeting with Mr. Block. Attorney Brandenburg commented that they did come up with a scope of employment and he was'to reduce this to writing but some time lapsed where he had not completed this. He contacted Mr. Block before he wrote the subject letter, indicating that the scope of work would be ready shortly, but Mr. Block indicated that he was not interested any further for a variety of reasons. Attorney Brandenburg, therefore, suggested that the Board contact priority number two on the list of architects previously recommended. On Potion by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner Bird, the Board unanimously authorized the administrative staff and Attorney to negotiate with the second choice for architect for the fourth Courtroom, John W. Calmes, Architect. LETTER FROM JUDGE SMITH RE COURTHOUSE PROBLEMS The Board discussed the following letter addressed to Dr. Hardin by Judge Charles Smith and commented on the conflicts there seem to be in comparing Dr. Hardin's letter stating what he has done and the Judge's statements re the same: MAY 26 1982 �BQK, 49. %E846: 39 MAY 2 6 1982 Aute of gpw ax CHARLES E. SMITH CIRCUIT JUDGE May -19, 1982 Dr. C. B. Hardin, Jr. 1840 - 25th Street Vero Beach, Florida 32960 ,IN. a. BAOK �� P�EC7 In re: Indian River County Courthouse , Dear Dr. Hardin: 224 COUNTY COURTHOUSE VERWOZACH. FLA. 32960 PHONES (305) 862.7871 In regard to your letter to me which was dated April 28, 1982, but was not received by -me until May,B% 1982 and was postmarked March 29, 1982, I want to make the following comments and responses. As to the health problems experienced by the judges and judicial assistants, you stated that none of the specialists have been able to tell us what has been causing our problems. This is not accurate. Dr. Jackson previously had testified before you and the County Commissioners that the problems experienced by Judge Stikelether, his judicial assistant and my former judicial assistant were directly related to the courthouse enviroment. Dr. Jackson could not identify the specific item that was causing the problem. Judges Vocelle, Lewis and myself have been to different ophthalmolo- gists and have all been diagnosed as having the same type of eve problem, caused by an irritant. As we have explained before, this problem 6nly occurs when in the Indian River County Courthouse and no where else. Common sense, then, indicates that the problem has to be something in the courthouse. In regard to our repeated requests for tests for formaldehyde in the vault room and our offices, the last test, I believe, was made some time in July, 1981. The reasons for the continued tests and periodical tests is to determine if the formaldehyde levels are decreasing in the vault room from the previous test results. If the tests in the vault room show that formaldehyde levels are continuing to decrease, then removing the shelving would not be required. However, if the formaldehyde levels are not decreasing, this would indicate that the shelving is still producing formaldehyde and therefore the shelving would haue to be removed and replaced with another type of material. ine reason for testing our offices is to determine the level of formaldehyde, if any, to determine if formaldehyde gas is still a problem and if not, then this would indicate a solvent or unknown gas is continuing to cause the eye irritation and headaches and further tests for other gases and toxic materials should be made. I am greatly concerned that you have `informed me that the, reason for delay in obtaining the additional tests was because your request for assistance was sent to the insurance carrier, who turned you down. I hope that you realize that there may be a conflict between your insurance carrier and county commissioners and the occupants of the courthouse, since on the one hand the insurance carrier does not want to pay amounts under the liability or Workmen's compensation Policies, while on the other hand, the county commissioners should r be trying to determine the problem and eliminate it. You had previously informed me that the insurance carrier suggested that two so-called experts from the University of South Florida, 'as a team be called in, but it was evident from their references that they were totally unqualified to make this study. This indicates again that the insurance carrier has not tried to find the source of the problem and eliminate it, but `I s only seeking tol-avoid liability and bury the problem., The County Commissioners are going to have to take the position that the safety and welfare of the occupants of the courthouse comes first over the wishes or desires of the insurance carrier and if a conflict has arisen, the County Commissioners should be honest enough- to recognize this and*turn over their responsibility for the maintenance and safekeeping of the courthouse to a third party. There is just no real excuse or valid reason why the delay for this testing has occurred. In regard to the pigeons, this problem was called to the attention of the County Administrator by written Memorandum, personally delivered to him on September 11, 1981. It was my -understanding, from you, that you were trying to eliminate or solve this problem since you advised me that you had written the Humane Society. In fact, you also wrote the Fresh Water & Game Commission a letter of April 5, 1982. If you never intended to do anything about the pigeons, why did you write the Humane Society and Game Commission? There is enclosed a copy of a letter from.Dr. Jeff Slade, D.V.M. in which he suggested that there have been devices that scare pigeons away. Also I received a call from a party that suggested wooden owls installed on the roof keep pigeons away. I am not saying that there is a present problem with the pigeons, but this request to scare or kill the pigeons from the fresh -air intake on the air-conditioning units on the roof, was for preventive measures to prevent any future problems and as an extra precaution against the pigeonsgetting into the fresh -air vents again. Nearly any time you go by the courthouse, you can see pi;§eons on the roof or flying around the roof, so I know that we still have pigeons and since the pigeons have gotten into the air-conditioning vents before, I still think there is a good chance that they will do so again, although it may be several years down the road. As to the carpeting, the attorney for Focus Carpet Corporation advises in his letter of March 24, 1982, to Gary M. Brandenberg, and I quote: " We are advised by the Company that no formaldehyde has been used in carpet manufacturing.for approximately ten years.. Additionally, the company has requested each of its suppliers to verify that they do not use formaldehyde in the products sold to.the Company for use in manu- facturing carpet." Now the same attorney for Focus Carpet Company, by letter to Brandenberg of April 30, 1982, sent us tests of the carpeting results which show that there are 47ppm free formaldehyde, but that.the formaldehyde is non-detectable with nose or sense of smell. These test results thep, show conclusively that there is -formaldehyde in this carpet, contrary to what they previously stated on Mar ch 24, 1982. We do not know , or at least I have never been informed about the glue other than some technical terms and I don't know what they mean. Since the carpeting dogs contain formaldehyde we are again requesting that all the carpeting and the glue be.removed from the entire courthouse and that suitable nop-allergenic carpeting, with po glue, be installgd. .As far as the halls are concerned, we don't care if it is carpeting or some cheaper product. In regard to the completion date of the large courtroom and your advise- ment to us as to estimated completion time-, you still have not given. us any time in your reply. The importance of having a courtroom large enough for a twelve -person jury cannot be over emphasized since it is mandatory in capitol cases and condemnation cases. All of the judges work on schedules_ prepared months ahead and it would greatly help us if we could have some estimated date of completion. ' ` 88fJK MAY 2 6 198241 MAY 2 6 19 = ,} �r The air-conditioning noise problem over Judge Vocelle's judicial assistant still has not been fixed or remedied in any manner and I don't believe anyone has attempted to fix it. The last that I heard was that the architects by their letter of March 10, 1982 claims that they did not design this air-conditioning system for the judges offices and in fact informed the county that it was not being designed or installed properly. After that we have heard nothing and I reali4ze that the county is blaming the architect and builder and the architect is blaming the county for this problem, but it has to be solved so that the judicial assistants can work with the air-conditioning on. The noise mainly bothers one judicial assistant, but after all day, it bothers all of them and there is no place.for them to move. We are again asking the county to fix this immediately and keep us informed of the progress. Speaking of air-conditioning problems, you were going to get a written report from Mr. Kashmfry as to his recommendations as to the entire air-conditioning system for all three courtrooms and our offices. We still have not gotten his written report, -although it has been months since he was hired. Would you please have him complete his written report and send us a copy as soon as possible. In your letter to me of April 28, 1982, you indicated that you would keep me updated not less than once.each week until we resolve all our problems. However, I have not -received any communication from you as to the progress since then except for some copies of letters.- At the very least, we would request that you follow up with a Memorandum as to the progress of each item and the estimated date of completion. We will be glad to direct our questions in writing, which generally we have been doing and you say that the staff has been instructed to respond immediately, but at.the'same time we request that you keep us informed by writing or even verbally, since I have not heard from you even verbally since April 28, 1982. However, I think that you and the staff and the County Commissioners should realize that it is the judges responsibility and duty to'keep the court system functioning expeditiously and as to matters that should be handled immediately, we are going to telephone you and require prompt immediate cooperation so that it wil'1 not interfere with the court's business. If this is not done this could possibly subject you or the staff 6r2 anyone else to criminal or civil contempt of court. The County Commissioners are legally responsible for the proper maintenance of the courthouse and to keep it a safe -and healthy place to work. They should set the highest standards for clean and healthy air, both indoors and outdoors. These problems continue to exist and must be eliminated as soon as possible. Yours my , v Charle E. Smit 4::1e Commissioner Lyons was bothered by a statement in Judge Smith's letter which he felt seemed to qualify Dr. Jackson as an expert in this field.. He had no doubt about Dr.. Jackson's competency as a physician, but raised a question as to whether Dr. Jackson can qualify as an expert in this very specialized field. ir Dr. Hardin believed that perhaps some of the interpretation the Judge has put on his letter is just a matter of verbalism rather than anything else. He continued that he wrote Judge Smith,"As to the health problem experienced by the Judges and your assistants, we are deeply .concerned about the health of all of you as well as those citizens and employees who have suffered no ill effects to date. We have had every conceivable test recommended or suggested to us made to determine what could be causing this problem. We are aware of the fact that you have had your own personal physician, ophthalmologist and pulmonary specialist involved, and as we understand it, none of these specialists have been able to tell you what is causing your problem." Judge Smith in his letter states, "...you have stated that none of the specialists have been able to tell us what is causing our problem, and this is not correct." Dr. Hardin did not know how much more correct he could be. As to the problem of the pigeons, this was a decision by the Board of County Commissioners. Dr. Hardin reported that they searched this out as far as they could, and found that, according to the people contacted, there is no problem with pigeons at the Courthouse. He'felt the Judge is using a hypothetical "down the road" situation. Dr. Hardin informed the Board that he has requested the DHRS to come over and make more tests, but it seems that everybody now is in a position where they don't want to.do it. He noted that there was one outside firm that wanted $1,800, plus expenses, for a two day visit to do this. Dr. Hardin reported that the formaldehyde tests made in September"of 1981 showed .226 parts per million in the vault area and less than .01 parts per million in Judge Smith's area. MAY 2 6 1982 9 p�sF 43 . $0 been made in the Judge's car or his house or other courthouses where he works, and Dr. Hardin did not know of any. Commissioner Fletcher discussed the air conditioning in the Judge's area, noting that the return air back to the central unit does not go into a direct duct but flows between the ceiling and the suspended roof structure. Maintenance Supervisor Lynn Williams confirmed that is true. He noted that the same system is used for the entire first floor of the County Administration Building also, and we have experienced no problems with it. In further discussion, it was noted that DHRS will come back and make more tests for formaldehyde if we insist. Commissioner Bird felt we should insist. Dr. Hardin reported that they are looking into some type of tab that can be worn on a lapel to indicate the level of formaldehyde in a particular area. Some discussion followed as to the threatening tone of Judge Smith's letter. Maintenance Supervisor Williams reported that the non -allergenic carpet has been installed in Judge Stikelether's office in the Welfare Building for two weeks, but they have had no comment from the Judge as yet. He stated that he wrote the Judge on Monday requesting a reply. Mr. Williams commented that Judge Stikelether has been experiencing a problem in City Hall also. Commissioner Bird felt it is important that Dr. Hardin reply to Judge Smith's letter, and Dr. Hardin stated that he has not answered it because he wanted to discuss it with the Commissioners first. Discussion ensued about any pigeon problem, and Mr. Williams agreed that there was a previous problem about pigeons being in the old system. The ductwork was analyzed and cleaned, the ducts were secured, and there is no problem now regarding access to the ducts. Mr. Williams further reported that they have installed ultra violet lights in the returns to the courtrooms, plus dual filtration charcoal filters which are changed regularly. In addition, Ecolo- gizers, which are advertised to remove formaldehyde from the air, have been purchased at a cost of $25.00 apiece. Motion was made by Commissioner Lyons to install scarecrows on the Courthouse roof as requested by the Judge to keep the pigeons off. Motion died for lack of a second. Commissioner Lyons stated the reason he brought this subject up today was that it seems we are getting to the point of pitting one expert against another and maybe we ought to find out who our expert is going to be. Dr. Hardin stated that he will now answer Judge Smith's letter, and Commissioner Bird suggested that they contact Judge Stikelether by telephone and inquire about his response to the recently installed rug. DISCUSSION ON CONSEQUENCES OF REAPPORTIONMENT Commissioner Lyons informed the Board that it appears that the Reapportionment of Districts recently approved by the State Legislature apparently does not agree with our precinct lines, and if we go along with this, it seems that it may cost the County between $8,000 and $9,000 to redo the voting precincts. He wished to know if there is some action the County can take in this regard, possibly joining in any lawsuit that may be instituted. In further discussion, it was agreed that the Attorney should check into this and report back. The Board thereupon recessed for lunch at 12:40 o'clock P.M. and reconvened at 1:45 o'clock P.M., all members being , Orr - .MAY 2.6 present,with the exception of Commissioner Wodtke who was unable to return due to a business appointment. APPOINTMENTS TO PARKS.AND RECREATION COMMITTEE Commissioner Bird informed the Board that the 4 anniversary date for the reappointments to the Parks and Recreation Committee has come and gone and he would like to recommend that the individuals named in the following memo be reappointed for a term of one year. TO: Dick Bird 4ff DATE: 5/11/82 FILE: FROM: Alice White SUBJECT: Parks & Recreation Committee Appointments REFERENCES: The following names have been submitted for appointment to the Parks and Recreation Committee: Board o_f County Commissioners City of Vero Beach City of Sebastian North County Recreation Committee Indian River County School Board Town of Indian River Shores City of Fellsmere Gifford Representative Vero Beach City Recreation Committee Dick Bird (reappointment) Terry Goff (reappointment) George Schum Everett Gass - Alternate Rene Van de Voorde (reappointment) Ken Evitt Al MacAdam (reappointment) Ersie Hall (reappointment) The Gifford Progressive League will hold their next meeting June 1 - until that time, Larry Staley will sit in on the meetings We have not had an answer from them at this time Commissioner Bird commented that in regard to an appointment from the Vero Beach City Recreation Committee, he understood from Terry Goff that it will be Gary Scheidt. The Progressive League is going to name someone to replace Larry Staley, but until they do, he will continue to serve. Motion was made by Commissioner Bird, seconded by Commissioner Lyons, to reappoint to the Parks & Recreation Committee those named in the above memo dated May 11, 1982. Commissioner Fletcher commented that he had been approached by people who wished to know how they could become part of the North Indian River County Recreation Committee,and he wished to know if this is a separate organization or a County -formed board. In discussion, it was noted that it started out as the Wabasso Improvement Committee and now has evolved into North Indian River County Recreation, Inc. Further discussion ensued as to whether this possibly should become part of the official County Recreation Committee. The Chairman called for the question. It was voted on and carried 4 to 0, Commissioner Wodtke being absent. UPDATE ON ACTIVITIES OF PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE (A) Gifford Park Restroom Commissioner Bird reported that they are in the process of obtaining the building permit for construction of restrooms at Gifford Park. In regard to Larry Staley who supervises the recreation activities at Gifford Park, Commissioner Bird reported that the Progressive League has come up with $1,500 for their share of the match for his salary. He continued that we did not have Mr. Staley funded for the summer, and after discussing this with the School -Board, that Board agreed that Mr. Staley would be hired as an instructor under the School's summer recreation program and continue his activities at Gifford Park in cooperation with the summer MAY2 6 19$2 -PAR $ 4 47 d . Y MA 198Z 49 *F'855 . recreation programs offered at Middle 6 and Middle 7 Schools. Commissioner Bird reported that it is planned to ask for further donations of equipment for the Gifford Park. (B) C-34 Airboat Launch Commissioner Bird next reported that when Blue Cypress Lake was closed for airboat launching, it was decided to improve the ramp area at C-34 Canal for this purpose. Through use of the County crew and some funds from the Board Improvement Trust Fund, the shoulders on both sides of the road have been improved to provide both a safe place to f launch and park. (C) Round Island Park Commissioner Bird noted that an agreement was worked out with the University of Florida to have some Seniors assist in developments plans for parks with the thought in mind they would eventually make up a Master Plan for Parks & Recreation Development in Indian River County. The first year we got a commitment of one student, Kim Moyer, re development of Round Island Park and agreed to expend somewhere between $400 to $600 for expenses she might incur in connection with this project. These funds were in the Planning Budget. After a series of about four visits to the County and a tremendous amount of research, Miss Moyer did a very comprehensive study on the background of that area and provided several conceptual plans which she drew up with varying degrees of development, ranging from minimal to a very complete development with camping area, picnic areas, boating facilities, etc. The final expense was about $600 mostly for printing and travel. Commissioner Bird expressed great pleasure with the final'iesult of Miss Moyer's study and believed these plans will put us ahead of the game when funds do become available in the future for development of this park. He stated that with the Commission's approval, he planned to write the School of Landscape Architecture - rr commending Miss Moyer for this work. He stated that he has talked with the School about the possibility of getting additional students in the future, and they are very recep- tive to this idea. Commissioner Lyons suggested that it might be even more helpful if the Commission forwarded Resolutions to both the School and the student, thanking the School for their participation in supplying the student and thanking Miss Moyer for her excellent cooperation and work. On Motion by Commissioner Lyons, seconded by Commissioner Pletcher, the Board by a 4 to 0 vote, Commissioner Wodtke being absent, authorized preparation of two resolutions as described above. Chairman Scurlock noted that there are a number of programs at State Universities which require the student to serve an internship, and he has been asked if the County would be willing to make use of these services at no cost. He has turned that information over to Dr. Hardin and believe this could be a tremendous resource for the County. (D) Blue Cypress Lake Park Commissioner Bird reported that previously because of the limited amount of space and the difficulty involved with obtaining permits, Blue Cypress Lake Park.did not rank very high in the committee's recommendation for expansion of facilities. Lately, however, a petition signed by several hundred residents has been received, requesting that the Commission take steps to provide safe and adequate overnight camping facilities at this park, and this has shed a new light on the situation. Commissioner Bird continued that last year"because of sub -standard restroom and water facilities, we had to advise Park Supervisor Middleton to prohibit overnight camping. This not only affected his livelihood because he could no longer collect fees and retain a portion of them, but it also caused him great MAY 2 6 19Q�: 49 Alf85 for many years were adamant about their right to camp there. Commissioner Bird informed the Board that he has contacted the Health Department to assist us with a plan to bring the restroom and water facilities up to standard, and when this is received, he will bring it to the Board's attention to see whether we want to get into the expense involved. (E) Tracking Station Park Commissioner Bird reported that we did receive approval from the State for additional grant funds to develop the • Tracking Station Park. We had a plan which was pretty well agreed upon by the residents in the area and the Committee and that was submitted to the State. Before we proceed with final construction drawings and permits, however, Commis- sioner Bird stated that he would like to invite the residents of the area to meet with the Committee one more time to review the plan and make final suggestions for minor changes. Chairman Scurlock commented that he had been informed that the actual depiction of this Plan in the Planning Department did not contain the notations which are in the final agreement. (F) Property for Golf Course Commissioner Bird next informed the Board that he had received an inquiry from Tom McPherson, on behalf of the City of Vero Beach, in regard to any parcel of County -owned land that would be large enough to accommodate a golf course. He noted that the County only owns two parcels which are over 100 acres in size - one at Kiwanis-Hobart Park and the other at the Sanitary Landfill operation, which would not apply, and this was reported to Mr- McPherson. Commissioner Bird commented that he is still looking into the feasibility of a public golf course to be built at Hobart Park and felt that he is on the track of something interesting and feasible. Commissioner Fletcher felt the Board is very fortunate to have Commissioner Bird doing such an outstanding job in the area of Parks and Recreation, and the Board agreed. DISCUSSION RE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE NORTH COUNTY FIRE DISTRICT RE $1.00 PER RUN Commissioner Fletcher commented that Motion was made by the Board at the last meeting that he contact the North County Fire District and advise them to handle the suggested fee for the volunteers of $1.00 per run in a manner consistent with the majority of the departments in the District. He reported that he has had meetings with them since, and they are contending that the District was created so that each individual department could handle their own destiny. Commissioner Fletcher appreciated the Commission's desire for consistency and also the concern that the $1.00 per run might turn into something more. He also had this concern, but noted that the Advisory Board members have speculated that this will be a bigger bookkeeping problem than it is worth. He asked if the Commission wished him to make the recommendation re consistency in handling the fees a formal recommendation. In discussion, it was felt that the,Commission mainly wanted to be sure the volunteers in the North County were protected as to Workmens and Unemployment Campensation and also did not want one segment underwriting another in this connection. This was merely a recommendation by the Commission, and the District can decide whether or not they want to accept it. Commissioner Bird asked whether the question of consistency related to whether or not the individual would receive the dollars or whether it would be paid on his behalf to that particular fire fighting entity. MAY 261982 51 Fr- - MAY 26 1982 Finance Director Barton explained that he would just turn the dollar per man over to the fire fighting entity, and what they do with,it is their concern. It is their responsibility to make the checks to the individuals. He believed from the standpoint of obtaining the Unemployment Compensation coverage, it is worth the bother with the bookkeeping. In further discussion, it was the consensus that the Commission merely wished to encourage the North County Fire District°to be consistent in their handling of these fees. Chairman Scurlock commented that when the North and South County Fire Districts were formed, both Districts expressed a desire to have an Advisory Committee. These Advisory Committees were formed, and while we give heavy weight to their recommendations to the District Board, the Chairman did not want any misconception about the fact that the final decision rests with this Commission which is acting as the District Board. Commissioner Fletcher noted that Finance Director Barton has stated that he is holding up the funds until the Advisory Board sends back a message. Finance Director Barton asked if he should just go ahead and send the checks to the individual departments, and the Board felt that is what he should do, accompanied by a comment that it would be appreciated if these funds could be handled in a consistent manner. There being no further business, the Board adjourned at 2:17 o'clock P.M. Attest: r ' Clerk Chairman