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Wednesday, June 29, 1983
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River
County, Florida, met in Special Session at the County
Commission Chambers, 1840 25th Street, Vero Beach, Florida,
on Wednesday, June 29, 1983, at 1:30 o'clock P.M. Present
were Richard N. Bird, Chairman; Don C. Scurlock, Jr., Vice
Chairman; Margaret C. Bowman; Patrick B. Lyons; and William
C. Wodtke, Jr. Also present were Michael J. Wright, County
Administrator;. L. S. "Tommy" Thomas, Intergovernmental
Coordinator; Gary Brandenburg, Attorney to the Board of
County Commissioners; Jeffrey K. Barton, Finance Director;
and Virginia Hargreaves, Deputy Clerk.
The Chairman called the meeting to order.
Commissioner Bowman led the Pledge of Allegiance to the
Flag.
APPOINTMENT OF REPLACEMENT DIRECTOR FOR COUNTY HEALTH DEPT.
Chairman Bird informed the Board that Dr. Flood,
Director of the County Health Department is retiring soon.
The Department of Health & Rehabilitative Services has
submitted some recommendations for his replacement, and Dr.
Flood feels there is some urgency in presenting these to the
Board as there have been legislative changes in the way his
replacement is to be chosen, which would become effective
July 1st, i.e., prior to July 1st, we pick the replacement
and the State concurs; after July 1st, the State picks the
person and we have the right to concur. Chairman Bird
continued that there are three applicants who have been
screened and qualified for the position by the DHRS; we,.,
however, are not limited by these. Chairman Bird reported
that he tentatively had tried to schedule interviews with
the three doctors tomorrow morning in the event the Board
did wish to get this accomplished prior to July 1st.
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Question arose as to whether there is not a specific
discipline taught called Public Health, as well as a special
Public Health Certificate, and Dr. Flood confirmed that
there is such training and certification, but unfortunately
none of the applicants with whom he has talked have such a
certificate. Florida does not have a Public Health School,
and he believed the closest place with such training is
North Carolina, which is where he received his degree in
Public Health. Dr. Flood cited his considerable background
and experience in working in public health for a goodly
number.of Florida counties and believed it is unlikely that
the Board will find anyone with similar training because our
salary scale is so low that most doctors are not interested
in pursuing such training.
Commissioner Lyons asked about the present salary
scale, and Dr. Flood stated that it is between $45,000 to
$50,000, but he did not know what they are offering these
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applicants.
Some discussion ensued as to the fact that the
Commission members are entirely unfamiliar with the process
involved in finding a new County Health Director, and it was
generally agreed that finding a replacement for a position
of this nature, which entails supervising about 38
employees, is of such significance to the county that it
would not be proper for us to move ahead too quickly,
regardless of the new legislation. Commissioner Scurlock
emphasized that he personally wished to interview
candidates.
Dr. Flood pointed out that he notified HRS as well as
the County Commission at the end of May that he was
contemplating retirement, but he got no reaction from HRS at
all until he personally recruited some candidates. This is
very discouraging to him as he was hoping to have some time
to break in a replacement before his retirement which is set
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up for the 22nd of July, at which time his salary stops.
Dr. Flood continued that all three of the physicians now
recommended are local; one other candidate, not local, bowed
out because the salary was too small. He noted that Dr.
Vinson is already associated with the Health Department,
working with him in pediatrics.
Chairman Bird asked what the next logical step would be
if the Commission did not wish to make a choice from the
three presented today.
Dr. Flood stated that if the Board so informed him, he
would pass it on to HRS and they would come up with
additional applicants. He noted that after six months, the
DHRS has the right to appoint someone without the County
having any say.
Attorney Brandenburg confirmed that if there is a
vacancy, the DHRS has the right after six months to appoint
anyone, not necessarily even a doctor.
Discussion ensued as to the standard practice followed
in other counties, with Dr. Flood noting that in some
counties this job is so poorly paid and unattractive that no
doctor will accept it.
Commissioner Scurlock noted that a major part of public
health work is administrative duties, and felt you could get
a competent administrator who would accept $40-50,000
whereas a physician could make much more. He asked if
counties that have this position filled by someone other
than a physician, contract for the services of a doctor, and
Dr. Flood believed this is the practice in some of the
southern states. He felt .any such administrator would have
to be a medical administrator.
Commissioner Wodtke inquired if any doctors other than
Dr. Vinson assist Dr. Flood, and Dr. Flood reported that Dr.
Taylor assists with Family Planning.
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stated that although he values Dr. Flood's thoughts and
recommendations, he felt this puts the doctor in a difficult
spot, and he hoped we try to get as many applicants who are
qualified in the field of public health as possible.
Commissioner Wodtke then asked how long it takes to get
a certificate of Public Health Training, and Dr. Flood
stated that it took him 9 months, but he did not know how
long the new course might be. He noted that Dr. Tucker has
indicated he would be interested in attending such a course.
He continued that only two of the applicants have a
smattering of health training. Dr. Lier had some months in
a Health Department in St. Petersburg where he handled one
particular area. Dr. Tucker had a few years in the
military, and he is very good with venereal diseases, which,
he felt, is why 'HRS chose him above the other two. None of
the applicants are trained public health physicians.
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MOTION WAS MADE by Commissioner Lyons, SECONDED
by Commissioner Scurlock, that we defer action
on this matter and request HRS to give us addi-
tional candidates within the next 30 days,
stressing that we are looking for candidates with
public health training, and also that we do not
conduct interviews until we have heard from HRS.
Commissioner Wodtke wished to be sure that this will
keep the three present applications active. He noted that
he did not wish to infer in any way that these are not
capable applicants, but noted the problem is that the only
comments we hear about them relate only to their particular
specialty.
Commissioner Bowman wished to know what percentage of
the job of Public Health Director is pure administration,
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and Dr. Flood stated that it is about 60%, but he has tried
to fight it down to about 40%.
Commissioner Scurlock felt that along with the Motion
we should authorize the Chairman to contact HRS and express
our concerns about the process, etc.
COMMISSIONERS LYONS AND SCURLOCK agreed to add
the above authorization to their Motion.
Further discussion ensued re contracting for
physicians, etc., and it was noted that the result of the
Motion would be that we would accept these applications and
hold them until more are submitted by HRS. It was also
emphasized that we would like this to be accomplished by
July 15th.
Commissioner Lyons felt the Chairman could emphasize
the urgency in his letter, but he believed because of the
timing, we probably are stuck with having an interim person
and he believed we can only make it a minimum of 30 days.
Chairman Bird stated that he would work with Dr.Flood
on writing such a letter.
THE CHAIRMAN CALLED FOR THE QUESTION.
It was voted on and carried unanimously.
ADDITION TO AGENDA
Commissioner Lyons stated that he would like to add an
item to the agenda in regard to having a labor relations
caucus after the meetings is adjourned.
MOTION WAS MADE BY Commissioner Lyons,
SECONDED by Commissioner Bowman, for the
Commission to have a labor relations caucus
as above.
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Attorney Brandenburg did not feel a Motion was neces-
sary. He explained that Union caucuses are not subject to
the Sunshine law so there is no notice required and the
Commission can call one at any time. The only thing that
can be discussed at those meetings is Union negotiations,
and he believed the Chief Negotiator must be present.
Commissioner Lyons and Bowman withdrew their Motion,
and the Board agreed to caucus after this meeting is
adjourned, as requested.
SAVE OUR COAST PROGRAM
Chairman Bird reminded the Board that at the last
meeting when we agreed to purchase beach properties with our
own funds, we also instructed staff to proceed as quickly as
possible to prepare other parcels to submit to the state
under the Save Our Coast Program. Community Services
Director Thomas and Environmental Planner Art Challacombe
have been working on that, and we have received a call
indicating additional urgency because the Governor and
Cabinet are going to meet on July.7th with the idea of
adding some parcels to the master list. Therefore,
direction is needed from the Commission today so we can send
our submissions and backup by courier to Tallahassee
tomorrow evening.
Mr. Thomas and Mr. Challacombe proceeded to review the
recommendations for submittal in the state program, noting
that they have tried to incorporate as many of the parcels
as possible into clusters to create one large park. They
are proposing to combine parcels in the area of the Bell
Road/Erdo parcel, for instance, to come up with a contiguous
parcel of about 3,600 lin. ft., or about 2/3 of a mile of
oceanfront. These new pieces consist of the Morris Tract
and the Howell/Chapman Tract, aswellas the western part of
the Erdo parcel. The Morris Tract is separated from the
Howell/Chapman property by a small tract owned by a Mr.
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Perlini, who is willing for his piece to be included in the
State program also. This would tie all the above into one
cluster or complex.
Mr. Challacombe continued that the next complex to be
submitted is made up of Number 11 Corporation and the east
portion of the Sirk property; they are submitting the
northern portion and western portion of the Golden Sands
parcel to make that an additional complex; and lastly, they
are including the Pfeiffer Tract, which is somewhat to the
south.
Mr. Thomas reported that these parcels would add up to
a total of $8,318,000, and he felt our match would be more
than adequate without including the Stanny property. He
also felt the prices are favorable and may be subject to
negotiation. He explained that for each parcel submitted,
we must have a conceptual design as well as a proposed
management and development program, and staff can have these
ready to submit by tomorrow afternoon. Mr. Thomas further
noted that the State also would like an updated resolution
as we originally agreed to match money, and now we are
matching land.
Commissioner Scurlock asked if this means the
title of these properties we have already acquired will
remain with the state..
Attorney Brandenburg explained that if you pledge
property, you will retain a percentage undivided interest in
the parcel, i.e., if we pledge 5 million and the state
pledges 10 million, then we will have a 1/3 ownership, which
would be the original 5 million. We could not sell our
property without state approval, and they would be giving us
a management lease to their percentage. He did not believe
they have a set format for the management interest. He
confirmed that the State would like a new Resolution laying
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this out specifically, and stated he would be glad to assist
Mr. Thomas with this.
Commissioner Scurlock left the Commissions Chambers for
a few minutes to answer a phone call.
MOTION WAS MADE by Commissioner Lyons, SECONDED
by Commissioner Wodtke, to approve Resolution 83-46
setting out specific properties and amounts that
are pledged and requesting the state to purchase
the other named properties; the properties to be
pledged to amount to 1/3 of what we are requesting
the state to purchase.
THE CHAIRMAN CALLED FOR THE QUESTION. It was voted
and carried 4 to 0. Commissioner Scurlock returned
to the room and indicated he would vote in favor of
the Motion, which then carried unanimously 5 to 0.
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RESOLUTION NO. 83-46
A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY C0MMISSIONERS
OF INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA, CLARIFYING INDIAN
RIVER COUNTY'S DESIRE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STATE
OF FLORIDA "SAVE OUR COAST" PROGRAM
WHEREAS, Indian River County has recognized the need to
acquire and preserve for recreational purposes beachfront land
on the Atlantic Ocean, and
WHEREAS, Indian River County has called for a referendum
of qualified voters of the County on the question of whether to
issue up to $5,000,000 in general obligation bonds to be used
for the purchase of beachfront property on the Atlantic Ocean,
and
WHEREAS, the vote.rs of Indian River County approved the
issuance of the bonds and the County Commission subsequently
adopted a resolution authorizing the issuance of the bonds, and
WHEREAS, the bond issue has been validated by the Circuit
Court of the 19th Judicial Circuit and
WHEREAS, Indian River County now desires to participate
in the State of Florida "Save Our Coast" Program to maximize the
resources of the County and the State in -a cooperative manner
and further desires to define the extent to which the County is
willing to participate.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS OF INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA,.that:
1. Indian River County has purchased the following
beachfront property for a total of $4,055,867.50:
Bellroad $1,750,000
Ed Schlitt, Trustee 871,200
Golden Sands 1,434,667.50
It is the County's desire to enter into an agreement with the
State of Florida using the above properties as the Coiinty's
share to request the state purchase the following properties
under the "Save Our Coast" Program:
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Allen Morris, Trustee
Richard Perlini
Howell & Chapman
Ed Schlitt, Trustee
Number 11 Corporation
Sirk $ Burke, Trustees
Golden Sands International
Pfeifer & Heikes
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$1,000,000
350,000
3,000,000
311,850
1,000,000
425,000
931,157.50
1,300,000
$8,318,007.50
It is the County's understanding however, thdt the total con-
tribution of lands contributed by the County will not exceed ,
33 1/3 per cent in value of the total land purchases.
2. Indian River County will develop the property as
County, State and Federal funds become available as needed to
facilitate its appropriate public use for outdoor recreation.
3. Indian River County will attempt to open the facility
to public use as soon after acquisition as is practicable.
4. Indian River County desires to enter into a management
and operation's agreement for the parks consistent with the
County's park and recreation program and philosophies and the
goals of the State of Florida.
S. Indian River County intends to manage, operate and
keep the facilities open for public recreational purposes in
perpetuity.
The foregoing resolution was offered by Commissioner
Patrick B. Lyons who moved its -adoption. The motion was seconded
by Commissioner William C. Wodtke and, upon being put to a vote,
the vote was as follows:
Chairman Richard N. Bird Aye
Commissioner Margaret C. Bowman Aye
Commissioner Patrick B. Lyons Aye
Commissioner Will"am C. Wodtke Jr. Aye
Commissioner Don � . Scurlocl.�, fir . Aye
The Chairman thereupon declared the resolution duly passed and
adopted this 29th day of June, 1983.
Attest: BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
FR DA WRIGHT Clerk OF INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA
APPROVED AS TO FORM AAND 'D.e By
LEGAL SU .I'CIENCY RICHARD N. BIRD
Chairman
By
ARYL URANIDENBURG
�unty Attorney 10
Commissioner Bowman inquired about the status of the
Gordon Nutt property by Wabasso Beach, and Chairman Bird
reported that the state was bound by their appraisals, which
were so far from Mr. Nutt's valuation of his property, that
nothing has happened. He believed the next move is up to
Mr. Nutt.
Commissioner Bowman noted that people are already
inquiring if we intend to abandon Wabasso Beach, and the
Chairman stated that is not our intention. He noted that he
wrote Mr. Nutt asking him to consider a donation of some of
his property and is still trying to talk with him about
this.
OUT -OF -COUNTY TRAVEL
Attorney Brandenburg informed the Board of an Environ-
mental Law Seminar to be held at Captiva Island, which he
felt was worthwhile, and stated he would like to attend and
take Assistant County Attorney Paull with him. -
ON MOTION by Commissioner Scurlock, SECONDED
by Commissioner Bowman, the Board unanimously
authorized out -of -county travel for Attorney
Brandenburg to attend the Environmental Law
Seminar to be held at Captiva Island August 5th
and 6th, as well as whomever he felt should
attend; this to be handled within his budget.
FURTHER DISCUSSION RE COUNTY HEALTH DIRECTOR
Commissioner Scurlock reported that he had received a
phone call from Mr. Hodgkins, Administrator of Pinellas
County, who indicated they are going through the same
process re their Health Director. He indicated that Dr.
Lier was Assistant Health Administrator over there in charge
of all the clinics. He served for over a year, and they
gave him a very positive recommendation. Apparently Dr.
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Lier only left Pinellas County because he inherited a home
in Vero Beach and he was commuting from Vero Beach to
Pinellas County.
There being no further business, on Motion duly made,
seconded and carried, the Board adjourned at 2:37 o'clock
P.M.
ATTEST:
Clerk
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Chairman
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