HomeMy WebLinkAbout6/24/1987Wednesday, June 24, 1987
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County,
Florida, met in Special Session at the County Commission Chambers, _
1840 25th Street, Vero Beach, Florida, on Wednesday, June 24,-
1987, at 3:00 o'clock P.M. Present were Don C. Scurlock, Jr.,
Chairman; Margaret C. Bowman, Vice Chairman; Richard N. Bird;
Carolyn K. Eggert; and Gary C. Wheeler. Also present were
Charles P. Balczun, County Administrator; Charles P. Vitunac,
Attorney to the Board of County Commissioners; Joseph Baird, OMB
Director; and Barbara Bonnah, Deputy Clerk.
The Chairman called the meeting to order.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
Chairman Scurlock requested the addition of a discussion
regarding the replacement of the Country Club Point Bridge.
ON MOTION by Commissioner Eggert, SECONDED by
Commissioner Bowman, the Board unanimously added
the above item to today's Agenda.
DISCUSSION RE THE REPLACEMENT OF THE COUNTRY CLUB BRIDGE
Darrell McQueen of L.Loyd & Associates explained that after
yesterday's meeting, they went back to the drawing board and feel
they have come up with a possible solution to the problem of
maintaining traffic during the construction of the new bridge.
They recommend that the width of the proposed new bridge be
increased by 2 feet, which will make the total width of the
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will be able to maintain traffic during the initial phase of
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construction. Southbound traffic will be put on the western
portion of the new bridge, while the eastern portion of the old
bridge is removed, after which they will construct the eastern
portion of the new bridge. The bridge will be closed to northbound
traffic. Anyone wishing to get to the Country Club Point area
will have to enter 30th Street from U.S. #1, but southbound
traffic will be able to use the bridge and exit the area via
Country Club Drive.
Mr. McQueen advised that we are looking at an additional
cost of $10,000-$12,000 to maintain one lane of traffic.
ON MOTION by Commissioner Bird, SECONDED by
Commissioner Wheeler, the Board unanimously approved
the widening of the proposed new bridge by 2 feet at
an approximate cost of $10,000-$12,000.
Mr. McQueen explained the detour signage that would be used
during the construction of the new bridge. A "do not enter" sign
will be used to barricade northbound traffic and a "bridge
closed" sign will be placed on Royal Palm Place and Country Club
Drive. He felt that most of the traffic will be local and that
it would not take very long before people learned which routes to
- take.
Public Works Director Jim Davis wanted it made clear that
even before we got to this point with the detour and maintenance
of traffic, the County had some obligations regarding the bridge.
The County was planning to put the wearing surface on the deck
and put in the Jersey barrier, which is the barrier to the curb
similar to the high barrier on the 17th Street Bridge. Director
Davis advised that the Jersey barrier may be included in the
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contract and that there may be some additional costs there, but
pointed out that the County was going to do that work in any _
case.
Commissioner Eggert asked if that cost was going to be an
addition to the $100,000, and Director Davis explained that it
was always an additional cost.
Commissioner Bird suggested that we request the City of Vero
Beach to share in the additional cost since the bridge will be
serving city residents, and Chairman Scurlock stated he would
telephone City Manager John Little about that possibility.
Mr. McQueen advised that the County will need to give the
City a check for $85,000, which is what is before the City now,
and then they will put forth a change order for whatever the
County works out with the City. He emphasized that the additional
cost of $10,000-$12,000 does not include any additional engineering
fees.
PRESENTATION BY DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF HOME
BUILDERS, INC.
Gail Harclerode, Executive Vice President of the Treasure
Coast Builders Association, Inc., introduced Michael F. Shibley,
Director of Land Use and Environmental Affairs of the Department
of National Association of Home Builders, Inc. in Washington,
D.C..
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Michael F. Shibley — Director, Land Use
& Environmental Affairs Dept., NAHB.
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Michael F. Shibley is currently the Direc-
tor of the Land Use and Environmental Af-
fairs Department of the National Associa-
tion of Home Builders in Washington, D.C.
with offices located at 15th and M Streets,
N.W. (202) 822-0351. Mr. Shibley has
been with NAHB since 1980.
Mr. Shibley's experience has been in
both the private and the public sector includ-
ing two years with a private planning firm
and five years on the staff of a Washington,
D.C. area planning commission. He holds a
Bachelor of Architecture and a Master's of
Architecture in Urban Design from Virginia
Polytechnic Institute and State University.
As Director of the Land Use and Environ-
mental Affairs Department, Mr. Shibley
manages the budget and work program and
committee work related to government reg-
ulation of land development, he has spoken
nationally on the subject and has frequently
been quoted in major newspapers and hous-
ing publications.
He also organizes seminars on current
land development topics, directs a program
of technical assistance to builders and de-
velopers, and coordinates educational prog-
rams on land development which are pre-
sented at the NAHB Annual Convention.
Mr. Shibley is currently assisting in the
design review and negotiations with local
governments for projects which are part of
the HUD Joint Ventures for Affordable
i Housing.
Mr. Shibley reviewed a slidefilm presentation showing some
of the methods used by other communities around the country in
the development of affordable housing developments. He noted
that the most important element in all of this is that it takes a
public policy commitment to make it work. Referring to
a report by the Joint Venture for Affordable Housing, Affordable
Housing: How Local Regulatory Improvements Can Help, Mr. Shibley
explained that this report is the result of a collective effort
- among public and private sector groups who share a commitment to
the creation of more affordable housing. Linked through a series
of coordinated projects and activities, the U. S. Department of
Housing and Urban Development and the other Joint Venture partic-
ipants are producing a variety of materials on the subject of
affordable housing.
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Mr. Shibley emphasized that the land cost is a big problem
in most areas of the country, and to help solve this, they _
suggest leasing the land to the people to build on, or making
available surplus land owned by a county or municipality, or
making the building codes less restrictive by granting variances
on lots that have been viewed as substandard. Another solution
would to to allow lot splitting. To redistribute the cost of the
land itself, new ideas in project development are being used in
establishing street standards, parking layouts, streetscapes,
design treatments, density, and subdivision regulations.
Mr. Shibley concluded his presentation with slides showing
different designs of clustered housing, widths of streets in
those developments, extra parking and visitor parking, and
ingress and egress of traffic.
Chairman Scurlock felt that this county is already doing
many of the things suggested in the presentation, but it seemed
to him that here in Florida the marketplace dictates the cost of
building. He asked Mr. Shibley if he has seen any government go
out and buy a specific piece of land for use in a different
concept of planning than the surrounding area and then allow
local builders to go ahead and build the actual development.
Mr. Shibley said that the only thing that comes close to
that would be the City of Fresno, California, which donated a
surplus piece of property to develop into affordable housing.
Chairman Scurlock wondered if there was a way that a county
or municipality could ensure that the savings derived through the
construction of a cluster -designed development would go to the
people buying the units, not into the pockets of the developer.
He believed the only low cost lots here in Indian River County
are located in older subdivisions, and pointed out that when you
get into the federal programs, the bottom line is that after you
are forced to put in roads and sewer and water systems, a new
subdivision is not going to be able to compete with an older
subdivision which does not have those requirements. The
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Chairman felt the main crisis in this county is going to come
when the lots in Oslo Park and Paadise Park are built out and
homes in the $30,000-$40,000 will no longer be available in this
area. People who are buying their first home or people who have
raised their children and are living on a fixed income and wish
to buy a smaller home will not be able to find a house that is
moderately priced.
Commissioner Bowman left the meeting at 3:55 o'clock P.M. in
order to attend another meeting.
Commissioner Bird pointed out that if the county went out
into the rural area where the land prices are more reasonable and
created a high density project, it would be going against the
policies we have established in the Comprehensive Land Use Plan.
Mr. Shibley said his firm would be glad to analyze our
ordinances to determine their impact on construction costs for
developers, giving particular attention to determining the
individual cost of a required sidewalk or other additional
criteria. Whenever they can, they try to help communities by
working with them to come up with ordinances that will allow
affordable housing.
The Commissioners agreed that would be worthwhile and
expressed their thanks for today's excellent presentation.
There being no further business, on Motion duly made,
seconded and carried, the Board adjourned at 4:05 o'clock P.M.
ATTEST:
Clerk
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Chairman