HomeMy WebLinkAbout4/27/1988SPECIAL MEETING
Wednesday, April 27, 1988
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County,
Florida, met in Special Session at the County Commission
Chambers, 1840 25th Street, Vero Beach, Florida, on Wednesday,
April 27, 1988, at 9:30 o'clock A.M. Present were Don C.
Scurlock, Jr., Chairman; Gary C. Wheeler, Vice Chairman; Richard
N. Bird; Margaret C. Bowman; and Carolyn K. Eggert. Also present
were Charles P. Balczun, County Administrator; Charles P.
Vitunac, Attorney to the Board of County Commissioners; and
Barbara Bonnah, Deputy Clerk.
The Chairman called the meeting to order.
PUBLIC HEARING - PROPOSED SAND MINING ORDINANCE
The hour of 9:30 o'clock having passed, the Deputy Clerk
read the following Notice with Proof of Publication attached, to
wit:
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VERO BEACH PRESS -JOURNAL
Published Daily
Vero Beach, Indian River County, Florida
COUNTY OF INDIAN RIVER: STATE OF FLORIDA
Before the undersigned authority personally appeared J. J. Schumann, Jr. who on oath
says that he is Business Manager of the Vero Beach Press -Journal, a daily newspaper published
at Vero Beach in Indian River County, Florida; that the attached copy of advertisement, being
a
in the matter of
,f-711&40,4"01.4;ti
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lished in said newspaper in the issues of
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Court, was pub -
Affiant further says that the said Vero Beach Press -Journal is a newspaper published at
Vero Beach, in said Indian River County, Florida, and that the said newspaper has heretofore
been continuously published in said Indian River County, Florida, each daily and has been
entered as second class mail matter at the post office in Vero Beach, in said Indian River Coun-
ty, Florida, for a period of one year next preceding the first publication of the attached copy of
advertisement; and affiant further says that he has neither paid nor promised any person, firm
or corporation any discount, rebate, commission or refund for the purpose of securing this
advertisement for publication in the said newspaper.
Sworn to and subscribed bforerDe this / day of ,t� A D 19 ft
(SEAL)
(Bu 'gess Manager)
(Clerk of the Circuit Court, Inddafi River County, Florida)
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
TO CONSIDER THE
• ADOPTION OF A COUNTY ORDINANCE q
Notice is hereby given that the Board oft
County
orida, shall hold a publmissioners ic hearing Indian River 'Countw
at which panni
ties In andtunny to Interestbeheardc Intheshall County Commhave an issior0i
Chambers of the County Adminstratlon Building.
located at -1840 25th Street, Vero Beach, Florida;
on Wednesday, AO. 27, 1988, at 9:30 A.M. ' -
consider the adoption—a an OFdinance entitled:,
AN. ORDINANCE OF INDIAN RIVER
COUNTY. FLORIDA, REPEALING SEC-
TION 25(r), MINING AND EXCAVATION,
APPENDIX A, ZONING, INDIAN RIVER
COUNTY CODE OF LAWS AND ORDI-
NANCES; CREATING A NEW -SECTION
25(r), .: EXCAVATION AND: : MINING;
PROVIDING ' FOR PURPOSE; PROVID-
ING FOR DEFINITIONS; SPECIFYING
PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES: PROVIDING
FOR PERMIT EXEMPTIONS: PROVID
ING WATER MANAGEMENT REGULA-
TIONS FOR ' EXCAVATED LAKES;
PROVIDING FOR MINING PERMIT
REGULATIONS; ESTABLISHING CRI-,
TERIA FOR HAULING FILL ON PUBLIC
AND PRIVATE ROADS; PROVIDING
FOR• FEES; PROVIDING FOR DURA-
TION AND COMPLETION OF PERMITS;`
PROVIDING FOR INSPECTION AND
REVOCATION OF PERMITS; PROVID-
ING FOR APPEAL: PROVIDING FOR
PENALTIES AND ENFORCEMENT;
AMENDING SECTION 25.1(t) OF THE
ZONING CODE; AND PROVIDING FOR
CODIFICATION, SEVERABILITY, . AND
EFFECTIVE DATE
A'copy of the,pprrbposed•ordinance Is evatlab
at the Planning Department office on the
floor of the County Administration Building.
Anyone who may wish to appeal any decfalbni
which may be made at this meeting win need tO
ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedngsl
is made which includes the testimony and
dente upon which the appeal wilt be based.
Indian River County
Board of County Commissioners
By -s -Don C. Scurlock, Jr.
April 7;1988
Michael Miller, Chief of Environmental Planning, reviewed
the following changes in the proposed ordinance that were
identified during the Public Hearing of March 22, 1988:
Mining Ordinance Major Changes
1) Average minimum elevation of 25 feet on coastal
sand ridge.
2) Water management standards (littoral zones).
3) Mining in residential and commercial zoning districts.
4) Expansion of bonding requirement.
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Abe Kreitman, a hydrogeologist in the firm of Geraghty &
Miller, Inc. of Palm Beach Gardens, continued his presentation
from the meeting of March 22, 1988. He again presented his
opinions and objections to the 25 ft. average mean level on the
coastal sand ridge. He maintained that the 25 -ft. figure is
arbitrary, capricious, and subjective, and that some parts of the
ordinance are too vague while some parts are too detailed and
specific. With regard to the 25 -ft. minimum elevation on the
coastal sand ridge, Mr. Kreitman stated he was not here to debate
the issue, but was here to give the Board the benefit of his
expertise on the subject. He felt that the proposed ordinance as
it reads now needs a significant amount of work, and urged the
Board not to pass it today.
Commissioner Bird stressed that the Board is here today to.
hear specific objections to the ordinance. He stated that Mr.
Kreitman had convinced him at the last meeting that the weight of
the sand on the sand ridge does not keep out salt water
intrusion; however, it would seem to make some sense that sand is
an excellent filter. He asked what amount of sand is generally
accepted as being adequate to filter the water before it reaches
the shallow aquifer.
Mr. Kreitman explained that the value of the sand ridge as a
water resource benefit comes from the fact that it is quite
permeable and filters rain water quite quickly, as opposed to the
area east of the sand ridge where the water runs off.
The Chairman asked Mr. Kreitman to please answer
Commissioner Bird's question before going off on another facet of
stormwater run-off. The question is whether an amount of sand
over the aquifer has some benefit.
Mr. Kreitman stated that the only benefit from the sand over
the aquifer is to filter out cigarettes and leaves. The answer
to Commissioner Bird's question is "no".
In regard to the depths of "real estate" lakes, Mr. Kreitman
advised that he and other experts maintain that the depth of the
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lakes should be deeper rather than shallower. He admitted that
water quality is always a consideration, but whether you like it
or not, Mother Nature will control what vegetation will grow
there. Mr. Kreitman had some very serious problems about the
depth limitation with regard to the littoral zone, but stated
that his opinions are his own. One of his main concerns is that
such a lake will attract children and there is a danger of a
child falling in and becoming entangled in underwater growth.
Mr. Kreitman felt that when we consider the littoral zone, we
must first determine what vegetation will grow there. That needs
to be studied and justified to some greater extent.
Chairman Scurlock believed that subject was covered pretty
thoroughly during the meeting of March 22, 1988.
Commissioner Bird appreciated Mr. Kreitman's expertise and
opinions in this matter, but felt that this ordinance has to be
what is generally accepted and cannot be that specific.
Mr. Kreitman concluded his presentation by reiterating that
some parts of the ordinance are vague and arbitrary and some are
too detailed. He, therefore, felt that it has not been shown
that this ordinance is reasonable, and believed it still needs
significant work.
Dr. Henry Fischer of Sebastian felt that the 25 -ft. average
-
mean figure is a type of voodobconservation since the sand ridge
is not the primary recharger in Indian River County, as commonly
believed. The primary recharger in this county is to the
northwest, and he believed the County should be purchasing and
preserving hundreds of acres in that area, instead of requiring
trees to be planted on the sand ridge.
Mr. Kreitman backed up Dr. Fischer's statement about the
primary recharger.
Commissioner Bowman asked to which aquifer Mr. Kreitman was
referring, the shallow or the deep, and Mr. Kreitman answered
that it was the Ocala/Orlando aquifer.
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Dr. Fischer believed that he has been creating excellent
littoral zones in the lakes he has dug by having mounds in the
middle of the lakes, etc. He was concerned that Mr. Kreitman's
remark that there is no salt water intrusion in the southern
portion of Florida was received with skepticism by the
Commission.
Jim Frazee, chief hydrologist with the St. Johns River Water
Management District, wondered why we have a sand ridge if it is
so totally useless. He felt the 25 -ft. requirement is a
compromise position, and explained that the Water District uses
it because it allows the county to have development, real estate
lakes, and the borrow which is needed for many projects. He
emphasized that the Water District is not a conservation agency,
it is a management agency; it uses the 25 -ft. figure as a
guideline. It is not a standard, and it is not set in stone.
Lengthy discussion ensued about having all the larger mines
permitted by the Water District and having the small mines with
thresholds of 12 acres or less continue to have their permits
reviewed by the County. Most everyone seemed to like that idea.
Fred Mensing of Roseland questioned the 25 -ft. figure, and
Mr. Frazee explained that you could dig a substantial pit
especially in the Wabasso area with the cross sections there.
Carol Fall, also with the St. Johns River Water Management
District, explained that the Water District recommends a maximum
of 12 feet for the overall depths of the lakes resulting from
mining operations in order to prevent a condition at the bottom
of the pond where there is no oxygen and which greatly reduces
the stormwater treatment.
Robert Keating, Director of Planning & Development, pointed
out that these lakes are not for the purpose of stormwater basins
since they have no outlet, but Ms. Fall explained that after a
while some residential developers want to work these lakes into
their stormwater run-off system. One of the things the Water
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District likes to see is the mounds or littoral zones in the
middle of the lakes which benefit fish life.
Mr. Frazee pointed out that borrow lakes along 1-95 make for
good fishing because of the artesian wells, and because they have
a very high percentage of dissolved oxygen.
Tom Lockwood of Vero Beach questioned the need for the
150 -ft. setback requirement, and Director Keating advised that
the setbacks are taken away from adjacent property lines and not
from mine phases, where each phase is continuous.
Mr. Lockwood suggested that the setback requirement be
addressed at the very beginning with the mining ordinance instead
of having to come back again at site plan submittal.
Chairman Scurlock felt he would like to leave the setback
requirements in the ordinance and have it addressed through the
site plan submittal also.
Fred Mensing of Roseland asked about someone wanting to
build a swimming pool in their backyard, and Director Keating
explained that an owner of a single family residence is allowed
to haul away 1000 feet of fill if he obtains a permit, the idea
being not to allow a mining activity on a residential site.
Steve Hall of Vero Beach and a member of the Association of
General Contractors questioned the theory that only dump trucks
have an impact on roads. He asked how the 1/4 -mile radius was
determined.
Public Works Director Jim Davis explained that staff
determines where the actual haul -away site is and where the
traffic is occurring, and draws the 1/4 mile radius from that
point.
Chairman Scurlock asked if they are paying for that now
through impact fees or gas taxes, and Director Davis advised that
impact fees are not for maintenance, and the gas tax funds really
aren't sufficient to pay for proper maintenance.
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Chairman Scurlock felt that to be consistent and fair, we
should consider all heavy trucking, such as citrus haulers and
cement trucks.
Director Davis noted that citrus trucks weigh about 62,000
pounds when fully loaded. He also pointed out that mining
operations usually take place on roads that are not being used by
any other type of facility. However, he felt that some of the
language in the ordinance could be changed to say that the road
will be checked, and if it was found that extensive damage was
occurring within this radius, the requirement for a road damage
bond would kick in. There are certain mines in this county which
have had heavy impact on some roads, such as Lindsey Road. A
road is designed to carry an average of 18,000 axle loads, and
when you exceed that, you reduce the life of that road.
Director Keating felt that if the Board wants to take the
1/4 -mile radius out of the ordinance, we could probably take out
the compliance bond also. The Commission indicated that would be
acceptable to them.
Mr. Hall next questioned the requirements for restoration
bonds, and felt the Board could reduce the amounts, but the Board
indicated that they did not wish to change the restoration bond
requirements.
Charley Price, owner of a large mine next to the county line
on 1-95, had a problem with the size of the excavation area,
because although he owns a 40 -acre tract of land, he is only able
to get 11.9 acres of excavation.
Director Keating suggested changing the ordinance so that
the bond is required for the excavation area only, and specify
that the restoration bond will be $1,000 per acre of excavation.
Mr. Price then pointed out that although he does not own any
trucks, he would be subject to forfeiture of his compliance bond
for road damage.
After considerable discussion, Attorney Vitunac advised that
the ordinance could be changed to read "chargeable to the permit
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holder." The Board indicated their agreement to the proposed
change.
Dr. Fischer suggested that the ordinance require all haulers
to have the name of the trucking company prominently displayed on
all trucks servicing mining operations, and the Commissioners
indicated their agreement to this change also.
Duncan Powell of the Florida Fresh Water & Fish Commission
gave a lengthy presentation and presented the following
recommendations:
Taking the fisheries, wading bird, water fowl and water quality
elements and realizing that fill needs for Indian River County must be met the
following is recommended to be included into the mining ordinance:
Include:
1. 30 percent of the created water body should be
less than six feet deep.
2. 70 ,
=:t of the created water body should be
less than eighteen feet deep.
3. Establishment of a vegetated littoral zone in all
waters less than or equal to six feet deep.
4. Side slopes from 0 to -6 feet should not be steeper
than 6H:1V.
5. All water depths to be determined from a normal water level.
The Board seemed not to accept Mr. Powell's recommendations,
and Mr. Powell stressed that there are oxygen problems below 20
feet of depth.
Commissioner Bird asked Mr. Miller how these recommendations
relate or compare to what is proposed in our ordinance, and Mr.
Miller referred to the following charts:
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Director Keating felt that what we have in the ordinance is
a compromise, and Chairman Scurlock preferred to go with a
compromise. He suggested that this meeting be continued at a
later date in order to allow staff to go over today's input and
incorporate the changes discussed into the ordinance.
The Board agreed to continue the Public Hearing at the
Regular Meeting of May 17, 1988, at 9:05*o'clock A.M. and adopt
the ordinance at that time.
There being no further business, on Motion duly made,
seconded and carried, the Board adjourned at 12:10 o'clock P.M.
ATTEST:
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Clerk Chairman
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