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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1/22/1990A G E N D A SPECIAL MEETING BETWEEN FELLSMERE CITY COUNCIL AND BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MONDAY, JANUARY 22, 1990 7:30 P.M. - CITY HALL FELLSMERE, FLORIDA COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. Carolyn K. Eggert, Chairman Richard N. Bird, Vice Chairman Margaret C. Bowman Don C. Scurlock, Jr. -Gary C. Wheeler FELLSMERE CITY COUNCIL Frank Hurst, Mayor Alvin R. Thomas, Vice Mayor Joseph P. Brooks, Sr. Lewis E. Green II George Mraz Lu Cosner 7:30 PM 1. CALL TO ORDER James E. Chandler, County Administrator Charles P. Vitunac, County Attorney Jeffrey K. Barton, Clerk to the Board Nicholas Tsamoutales, City Attorney Bonnie Cramer, Deputy City Clerk 2. Status Report on Indian River County Traffic Impact Fee Program within the City of Fellsmere ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO APPEAL ANY DECISION WHICH MAY BE MADE AT THIS MEETING WILL NEED TO,ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE WHICH INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL WILL BE BASED. / JAN 2 2 1994) BOOK f'�1 L Lti. L, SPECIAL MEETING IN FELLSMERE Monday, January 22, 1990 - The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County, Florida, met in Special Joint Session with the Fellsmere City Council, at City Hall, Fellsmere, Florida, on Monday, January 22, 1990, at 7:30 o'clock P.M. Present from the County Commission were Carolyn K. Eggert, Chairman; Richard N. Bird, Vice Chairman; Margaret C.' Bowman; Don C. Scurlock, Jr.; and Gary C. Wheeler. Also present were James E. Chandler, County Administrator; Charles P. Vitunac, Attorney to the Board of County Commissioners; Joseph Baird, OMB Director; and Barbara Bonnah, Deputy Clerk. Present from the Fellsmere City Council were Frank Hurst, Mayor; Alvin R. Thomas, Vice Mayor; Joseph P. Brooks, Sr.; Lewis E. Green II; George Mraz, and Lu Cosner.. Also present were Nicholas Tsamoutales, City Attorney; and Bonnie Cramer, Deputy Clerk. Mayor Hurst called the meeting to order. After leading the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag, the Mayor gave a brief prayer. Mayor Hurst introduced those in attendance from Indian River County, and announced that the purpose of the meeting tonight is to discuss the transportation impact fees between Indian River County and the City of Fellsmere. Public Works Director Jim Davis presented the following Status Report dated 1/16/90: JAN 2; 2 1990 BOOK i8 FAUL t Boa 78 970, j- , TO: James E. Chandler, County Administrator '• = FROM: James W. Davis P.E ., -�-•t::�'� Public Works Directo SUBJECT: Status Report on Indian River County Traffic Impact Fee Program within the City of Fellsmere DATE: January 16, 1990 DESCRIPTION AND CONDITIONS The Indian River County Board of County Commissioners enacted the Indian River County Fair Share Roadway Improve- ment Ordinance No. 86-14 (effective date Feb. 28, 1986) on January 22, 1986, after numerous workshops and public hearings, the -dates of which were properly advertised in the local media. The Board's direction to staff during the impact fee program development was to meet individually with the staff and governing bodies of all cities or towns within the County, as well as the Transportation Planning Committee and local interest groups, to receive thorough public input. In regards to the City of Fellsmere, the County staff met with the following persons/city council representatives on .the dates noted: Meeting Dates Meeting Attended By Purpose June 19, 1985 Transportation Pla9ing Committee Program Development (All Cities Invited) August 21, 1985 -City of Fellsmere Staff Program Development Mike Brown, Consultant for IRC Receive. City Input met with Mayor and Council October 30, 1985 Board of County Commissioners Public Input Public Workshop November 20, 1985 County Staff Answer Council Fellsmere City Council Questions on Impact Fees November 27, 1985 Transportation Planning Committee Program Development January 8, 1986 Board of County Commissioner Take Public Comment Public Hearing January^22, 1986 Board of County Commissioner Adopted Ordinance Public Hearing After the program was implemented in h 1987 -- - -=-s'.�=` •• March, , the City of _- °-Fellsmere collected impact fees until June, 1987, at which time 'the City ceased collecting the fee. This action prompted staff communicat6 with the City Council by informing the .City that the County staff is available to discuss the = �-•r;;..+• • • program and the consequences of the City opting out. At that time, the Public -- Works director met with Mayor Turner and the City Council to • answer any questions they may have. 4---Y-: On September 13, 1988, the Board of County Commissioners approved a revised Traffic Impact Fee schedule to reflect current road construction costs. 2 Page two January 16, 1990 Despite the numerous meetings and past communications, the City of Fellsmere City Council, has continued to opt out of the County's Traffic Impact Fee Program. To discuss this issue,..the County Administrator, County -Attorney, and County Public. Works Director met in the County Administrator's Conference Room -with the Mayor in October 4, 1989. The Mayor expressed a concern that the County's program does not set aside a portion of the impact fee revenue for capacity expansion of City' collector streets• and has no projects in Fellsmere. The County staff explained that the 20 -Year Road Improvement Program does include funding of CR507 through Fellsmere, and that capacity expansion projects are included based upon their technical merit, and that the City has not transmitted the City Traffic Study which the City recently has accepted. The next step of the established process is for the City staff to recommend to the County Transportation Planning Committee that those projects that have technical merit and are included in the study be added to the County 20 -Year Road Improvement Program. The County -staff was of the opinion that an established procedure exists for projects with merit to be included. The County staff did stress the opinion that the Traffic Impact Fee Program was developed on a County -wide consistent basis, and that that revenue source is necessary to fund future roadway needs in the Fellsmere area. At the conclusion of the meeting, the Mayor invited the County staff to a City Workshop to explain the program to the new City Council. On Oct. 31, 1989, the County Administrator and Public Works Director attended the City of Fellsmere City Council Workshop to again explain the program and request the Council to reinstate collection of the fee. In December, the Council voted to not rejoin the program. ALTERNATIVES AND ANALYSIS The County staff is of the opinion that the Traffic Impact Fee Program is a vital revenue source to provide for the orderly expansion of the arterial and collector road system in Indian River County, which is demanded by new growth in the County. Since transportation is not confined to political boundaries, the program should be consistently implemented.. The City of Fellsmere's participation is very important. RECOMMENDATION Staff recommends that the County Commission reaffirm the County's position that a County -wide; -Traffic Impact Fee Program be imple- mented and that roadway capacity improvements be selected based upon their technical merit through the Transportation Planning Committee. v rt - 3 '� BOOK FO 8 FADE 9.81 Director Davis wished to concentrate on 5 major points: 1) Definition of Traffic Impact Fee -- a fee used by local government and charged to new development only. It is used to generate revenues for funding of capital projects necessitated by the new development that occurs in the community. 2) Use of Traffic Impact Fees -- There are 3 tests that have to be met in order to use traffic impact fees for a particular project: A) New development must demand the new capital project. For instance, if a new development comes in that adds enough traffic to necessitate the widening of CR -512, the impact fees can be used for that improvement. The fees cannot be used for maintenance or resurfacing an existing street. B) There needs to be a connection between the new development and the capital facility that is being built with the money. That new development must demand that the road be widened. C) The benefit must accrue to the new development. In other words, that road widening project must benefit the new development, whether it is a single-family house or a commercial development. 3) Alternatives to Impact Fees -- A) Increase gas taxes, but, unfortunately, the County doesn't have total control over gas taxes. Basically, the State dictates how much we can charge. At present the County has the ability to levy 7 cents a gallon, but is charging only 6 cents a gallon, so that alternative is almost exhausted. 4 M M B) Increase property taxes to widen roads, but that is a very unpopular alternative at this time. Civic groups want new growth to pay for itself. C) Establish toll roads, but that is a very laborious process in Florida, and -the alternative is not there in a practical sense. D) Assessments on property. If we were to widen CR -512,' the County could define a benefited area on each side of. the road and could assess the cost of widening the road to everybody in the area. However, that really isn't fair to the residents who have been here for years and years who paid for the existing road. In looking at all the alternatives, Indian River County, as well as many other counties in Florida, feels that the impact fee is the most equitable way to pay for road widening. Felismere Impact Fee Projects One of the projects that has been in the County's 20 -year plan since about 1985 is the capacity expansion of CR -507, which basically goes through the heart of the Felismere community. That project would involve the widening of a 3-1/2 mile stretch of road. As the community develops, the first project that we foresee is improvements to CR -507, particularly at the intersection of CR -512. CR -507 and CR -512 probably are the roads that would be stressed the soonest and would require either left-hand turn lanes or lane widening as well as signalization. So we have projects in the County's 20 -year plan to address the future road network in the Felismere area. That plan was developed by the County staff working with the Transportation Planning Committee (TPC), which was established in the 1980s to address road issues in the county. Councilman Brooks is Fellsmere's representative on that committee and he has faithfully attended the meetings. The TPC listens to*the issues 5 ROOK rlr� Fr1�C WX41 'J _ + BOOK .78 f'A.Ijc e) that deal with transportation and after considering those issues, pass their recommendations to the Board of County Commissioners. In the case of the CR -507 project and many other projects, the Board has been very receptive to the indications from the TPC as to what projects could be implemented with the traffic impact fee funds. Fee Schedule For New Land Development Activity ►' V 'A z Type of Land- District Fee Schedule For New Land Development Activity District District District District a b District District ° Development Activity I II III IV V VI VII A e Type of Land District District District District District District District District District Development Activity I II /II IV V VI VII VIII IX $ 255.00 g Residential• 369.00 345.00 283.00 255.00 385.00 308.00 149.00 219.00 282.00 Concrete plant (per acre) Sing1wfamily (per unit) $1,450.00 $1,355.00 $1,113.00 $1,000.00 $1,513.00 $1,211.00 $ 587.00 $ 860.00 $1,110.00 431.00 632.00 Multi -family (per unit) 835.00 780.00 640.00 576.00 ' 871.00 697.00 338.00 495.00 639.00 81.00 105.00 Mobile homes (per unit) 781.00 730.00 599.00 539.00 S1b.00 0625 0 C7 Up to 10,000 gsf (per 1,000 gst) Hotel (per bedroom) 1,276.00 1,19200 979.00 880.00 1,331.00 1, 1,248.00 516.00 605.00 766.00 886.00 976 00 1.143.00 m 1,743.00 Motel (per bedroom) 1,494.00 1.396.00 1,146.00 1,031.00 1,659.00 1,033.00 1,333.00 50,001 to 100,000 gsf (per 1,000 gsf) z z w Nursing homeC7 422.00 395.00 324.00 291.00 441.00 353.00 171.00 250.00 323.00 tz 1,733.00 (per bed) 2.356.00 1,886.00 914.00 1,339.00 1,728.00 200,001 and over (per 1,000 gsf) 2,566.00 2,398.00 1,969.00 1,770.00 2,677.E 2,143.00 1,038.00 1,521.00 ,1,964.00 Gas stations (per fuel pump) 2,447.00 2,287.00 1,877.00 1,688.00 2,553.00 Ofl`loe and Finoae - 990.00 1,451.00 1,873.00 Used car sales (per acre) 5,010.00 4,682.00 3,844.00 3,456.00 5,227.00 4,183.00 Medical office (per I.= gz0 2,786.00 2,576.00 2,115.00 1,901.00 2,876.00 2,301.00 1,115.00 1,634.00 2.109.00 Banidfinancial office (per 11000 gsf) 6,310.00 5,896.00 4,841.00 4,35200 6,583.00 5,268.00 2,653.00 3,?40.00 4,828.00 Bank financial i (w/driveive-n) (per Other 9,670.00 9,036.00 7,418.00 6,669.00 10,088.00 8,074.00 3,912.00 5,732.00 7.399.00 office up to 10,000 gef (per 1,000 900 1,968.00 1,839.00 1,609.00 1,367.00 2,053.00 1,643.00 796.00 1,168.00 1,506.00 Other office b over 10,000 gsf (per 1,0, 0 gsf) 1,316.00 1,229.00 1,009.00 907.00 1,373.00 1,099.00 532.00 780.00 1,007.00 � Fee Schedule For New Land Development Activity ►' V 'A z Type of Land- District District District District District District District District District ° Development Activity I II III IV V VI VII Vlll IX 0 Industrial• Warehouse (per 1,000 gsf) $ 334.00 $ 312.00 $ 256.00 $ 230.00 $ 348.00 $ 278.00 $135.00 $198.00 $ 255.00 General industrial (per 11000 gsfl 369.00 345.00 283.00 255.00 385.00 308.00 149.00 219.00 282.00 Concrete plant (per acre) 1,066.00 996.00 818.00 735.00 1,112.00 890.00 431.00 632.00 816.00 Sand mining (per acre) 137.00 128.00 105.00 94.00 143.00 114.00 65.00 81.00 105.00 so__..-< � Retail• •. Up to 10,000 gsf (per 1,000 gst) 3,061.00 2,860.00 2,348.00 2,111.00 3,193.E 2,556.00 1,238.00 1,814.00 2.342.00 10,001 to 50,000 gsf (per 1,000 gsf) 1,743.00 1,628.00 1,337.00 1,202.00 1,818.00 1,455.00 705.00 1,033.00 1,333.00 50,001 to 100,000 gsf (per 1,000 gsf) 2,023.00 1,891.00 1,552.00 1,395.00 2,111.00 1,689.00 819.00 1,199.00 1546.00 100,001 to 200,000 gsf (per 1,000 980 2,258.00 2,110.00 1,733.00 1,558.00 2.356.00 1,886.00 914.00 1,339.00 1,728.00 200,001 and over (per 1,000 gsf) 2,566.00 2,398.00 1,969.00 1,770.00 2,677.E 2,143.00 1,038.00 1,521.00 ,1,964.00 Gas stations (per fuel pump) 2,447.00 2,287.00 1,877.00 1,688.00 2,553.00 2,043.00 990.00 1,451.00 1,873.00 Used car sales (per acre) 5,010.00 4,682.00 3,844.00 3,456.00 5,227.00 4,183.00 2,027.00 2,970.00 3,834.00 6 8 W r g W M M Fee Schedule For New Land Development Activity Type of Land Development Activity District I District District District District District District District District II 111 IV V VI VII VIII IX Retail (coned) Restaurant (per 1,000 gan $ 3,697.00 $ 3,454.00 $ 2,836.00 $ 2,550.00 $ 3,856.00 $ 3,086.00 $1,496.00 S 2;191.00 $2,829.00 Fast food restaurant $1,?70.00 (Pm' 1.000 gal) Church (per 1,000 getl 70200 599.00 656.00 560.00 539.00 460.00 (per 11000 gsfl Convenience store 5,226.00 4,883.00 4,009.00 3,604.00 5,452.00 4,363.00 2,114.00 3,098.00 3,999.00 (per 1,000 990 7,286.00 6,809.00 5,590.00 5,026.00 7,602.00 6,084.00 2,948.00 4,319.00 5,575.00 Recreationak General recreational (per parking space) Golf course 294.00 275.00 226.00 203.00 307.00 246.00 119.00 174.00 225.00 (per Parking space) Racquet club 626.00 585,00 481.00 432.00 653.00 523.00 253.00 371.00 479.00 , (per 1.000 PF) County park 11509.00 1,410.00 1,158.00 1,041.00 1,574.00 1,260.00 610.00 894.00 1,155.00 (per parking space) 199.00 186.00 153.00 137.00 208.00 166.00 81.00 118.00 153.00 Governmental Post office (per 1,000 gsfl Library 2,880.00 2,691.00 2,209.00 1,986.00 3,004.00 2,405.00 1,165.00 1,707.00 2,204.00 (Per 1,000 g9t) Office building 3,630.00 3,392.00 2,785.00 2,504.00 3,787.00 3,031.00 1,469.00 2,152.00 2,778.00 (Pei' 1.000 gsf) Jail (per bed) 5,558.00 5,194.00 4,264.00 3,834.00 5,799.00 4,641.00 2,249.00 3,295.00 4,253.00 98.00 91.00 75.00 67.00 102.00 81.00 39.00 58.00 75.00 Fee Schedule For New Land Development Activity Type of Land Development Activity District 1 District II District District District District District District District sh Ill IV V VI VII Vlll jx Miscellaneous Day child care center (per 1.000 gaff $ 2,313.00 $ 2,161.00 $1,774.00 $ 1,595.00 $ 2,413.00 $1,931.00 $ 936.00 $1,371.00 Hospital $1,?70.00 (Pm' 1.000 gal) Church (per 1,000 getl 70200 599.00 656.00 560.00 539.00 460.00 484.00 733.00 586.00 284.00 416.00 537.00 413.00 625.00 500.00 242.00 355.00 459.00 Director Davis emphasized that all the money collected in District 7 will be spent on road improvements in District 7. The impact fees vary depending on the land use. A single-family home is $587, whereas a commercial facility is charged a higher impact fee. Different kinds of land uses have a different fee schedule because certain kinds of development either generate or attract more traffic than others. A formula was established by various numbers of economists, engineers, and attorneys, to predicate these impact fees, and Director Davis recalled that he had gone over that formula very thoroughly back in October when he met with the City Council. Commissioner Scurlock asked how much money is in the Felismere impact fee escrow account at the present time, and 7 0 46 z, O O C 74 L�UUK 78 Director Davis advised that there is approximately $59,000 in the District 7 account that has been collected since the inception of the impact fee program back in March, 1985. Although District 7 is one of the largest districts, it has the lowest amount of fees collected, since other areas in the county have populated much faster than this area. Approximately $50,000 of that $59,000 has been generated from the unincorporated areas, which include areas such as Vero Lakes Estates, which has 9,000 platted lots and is developing a little quicker than the Fellsmere area. Councilman Mraz asked how much it would cost to widen the 3-1/2 mile stretch from CR -507 to CR -512, and Director Davis advised that $1.7 million has been set aside in the program for the widening and improving of rural areas, such as Fellsmere. Councilman Mraz didn't quite understand where the $1.7 million is coming from, and Director Davis explained that basically that amount is set aside from the impact fee program and the gas tax revenues, but only $59,000 has been collected so far. Councilman Mraz realized that the $59,000 is a far cry from the $1.7 million and that it will take some time to collect the kind of revenue that will be needed to do the continuation of Babcock Street. With regard to the intersection of CR -507 and CR -512, he.has not seen any traffic problems as far as bottlenecks, etc. He felt there might be a potential problem at the intersection of CR -512 and Willow Street, but he wasn't quite sure that the extension of CR -507 to CR -512 is necessary. Director Davis explained that the 20 -year plan is reviewed every two years to see where the growth is occurring, and through 'the TPC, the plan is revised as needed. The County monitors CR -50 -7 -and CR -512, and if priorities change, recommendations are taken to the Board of County Commissioners and the plan is changed. 0 r Commissioner Scurlock explained very briefly the concurrency requirements for new development that are in the new Comprehensive Land Use Plan with regard to infrastructure, which is roads, stormwater drainage, water and sewer. Mayor Hurst agreed with Commissioner Scurlock that the key word here is concurrency, and Commissioner Scurlock pointed out that there is a moratorium on new development in west Martin County because they do not have the infrastructure. Fellsmere is far from that, however, because they are not nearing capacity on their roads. Commissioner Scurlock emphasized that the County has adopted a uniform approach in the collection of impact fees throughout the county, and the County does not waive the impact fee even for itself. The County has paid road, water and sewer impact fees for the new Jail and the new libraries. Councilman Brooks referred to the following letter written by Assistant County Attorney William Collins to former Mayor Turner: � AN rf 00K. ��.Gt FF,- +moi 8 F,tin 98 r, QpTR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 1840 25th Street, Vero Beach, Florida 32960 Telephone: (305) 567-8000 Suncom:224-1425 April 18, 1988 Mayor Marion Turner P.O. Box 38 Fellsmere, FL 32958 Re: Traffic Impact Fee Ordinance Dear Mayor Turner: CHARLES P. MUNAL. CawidAfanq WILLIAM G. COLLINS 11 AnL Cower Allwmr SHARON PHILLIPS BRENNAN AnL Goudr AUO nwr You indicated to me in our phone conversation of last Friday that the Town of Fellsmere had resolved some months ago not to collect traffic impact fees for the County under the County's °Fair Share Roadway Improvements Ordinance.° This ordinance.assesses an impact fee on all new development within the County in order to establish a fund for needed capital improvements to the Collector Roadway System which the County Ps -responsible for providing. The Collector Roadway System Includes roads that connect Fellsmere with the rest of -the County as well as main transportation corridors through Fellsmere which are the responsibiJity.of the County as°.part of -the County road system. This ordinance is ibpllcabie to development within the town of Fellsmere as long as it does not conflict with a municipal ordinance. (See Florida Constitution, Article Vill, Section 1(f)). 1 take this to mean that Fellsmere should pass an ordinance opting out of the County's Fair Share Roadway Improvements Ordinance, if it does not wish to. -"= collect impact fees. I understand from our conversation s=:�.... that the Town perceives street paving to be the real need in Fellsmere, and County impact fees don't address that need. You also expressed concern for a negative effect. on low income housing projects, in the Town. The purpose of this letter .,is to alert you to the effect of the Town of Fellsmere opting out of the- County wide ordinance. I understand that there may be some feeling that impact fees collected by the City should be spent on City projects. You may be aware that court cases allow Impact fees to be spent only on new Capital Improvement Projects such as new roadways and expanded capacity_for old roadways that are required by the new growth which is being assessed the impact fee. Impact fee funds,can not be used _ for maintenance and operation purposes which are funded through ad valorem revenues. If Fellsmere Intends to setup Its own impact fee system, it should be aware of this limitation on the expenditure of those funds. Unless street paving could be tied to needed capacity expansion on unpaved roads related to new development, it is unlikely that "traffic impact fees collected by the Town could be spent to pave dirt roads. The Town should also be aware that the funds the County collects in the Feilsmere.area are budgeted for expenditure within six (6) years on the collector road system in the Fellsmere area, including collector roads which transect the town. The effect of opting out of the county wide ordinance would be to reduce the funds available ..to provide needed improvements to the capacity of county collector roads in the Fellsmere area. The County would offer to make ourselves available to discuss with you and any Town officials the Impact Fee situation as it relates to Fellsmere. Yours truly, Ll C61-1 William G. Collins 11 Assistant County Attorney 10 Councilman Brooks understood that the second paragraph in Attorney Collins' letter means that if Fellsmere doesn't go along and refuses to pass the impact fee program, they cannot expect any improvements to CR -507. He asked if that is correct. Director Davis confirmed -that to be correct, and explained that Attorney Collins wrote this letter when Fellsmere stopped collecting the impact fees without adopting a resolution or enacting an ordinance. The County's Fair Share Roadway Improvements Ordinance was written to be inclusive of all the municipalities unless the municipality opted out by the adoption of an ordinance. Commissioner Scurlock pointed out that the County is collecting for more than just the incorporated area of District 7. In fact, most of the money is coming from the unincorporated portion, so it is not really fair to say that no improvement will take place on CR -507 because it may be needed for the unincorporated area of the district. That is the dilemma here to see that everybody pays their fair share. Attorney Tsamoutales asked if anyone has calculated the amount of fees that would have been collected since Fellsmere stopped collecting the fees, and Director Davis explained that $9,000 had been collected from the incorporated area over the 12-16 month, and if the fees had been collected at that steady pace, you can figure about $7,500 a year. Councilman Brooks asked for further explanation on how CR -507 could be widened since it goes through an already developed area, and Director Davis advised that in looking at how we can spend the impact fees, we have to look at roads that benefit most of the area. Roads like CR -507 and CR -512 benefit the whole area because most of the residents in that district travel from Willow Street onto CR -512. So we designate only collector roads and arterial roads for impact fee use because most of the new development use those roads in one way or another. BOOK. k `2 J99U _AO .JI Commissioner Bird hoped that we would not -get too hung up on f improvements to CR -507, because that priority could change if significant development occurs elsewhere. For now, however, that is where the TPC has determined where the need is. We are talking about $1.7 million in improvements with only $59,000 in the fund now, so we have plenty of time to study how the area is developing before enough money is going to be in the bank to make any improvements. He encouraged the Council to begin collecting the impact fees now and work very closely with the TPC to make sure that Fellsmere's priorities are set the way they feel they should be. Commissioner Bird emphasized that the impact fees are working in the rest of the county, and he believed they would work in Fellsmere as well, but we need the cooperation of the City of Fellsmere to collect its fair share of the impact fee. A gentleman from the audience asked what the impact fee would be on a mobile home, and Administrator Chandler advised that it would be $316. Councilwoman Lu Cosner hoped that there would be some way that the County would not expect Fellsmere to go back and collect the fees for the past two years. Commissioner Scurlock felt, as one Commissioner, that he would support the County just totalling those fees at $9,000 and just start the program back up and not worry about what wasn't collected. He believed we should just get this thing back on the road, and start building up the funds. Commissioner Bird felt believed it would be virtually impossible to go back now and try to collect them retroactively. 'He agreed that we should start over from scratch and be consi-stent in the future. Councilman Mraz stated that based on the discussion tonight, he felt satisfied that the roads seem to be sufficient at this time to handle the present population. However, he pointed out that the same thing could occur here that occurred in St. Cloud, 12 M M and on those grounds, he felt it would be a good idea to go ahead and adopt, or look into, going to an impact fee system. Commissioner Wheeler asked the County Attorney what position that would put the County in with regard to the other districts by not retroactively collecting from the people who pulled -- building permits during the last two years. Attorney Vitunac explained that the County could always collect the money, or try to collect it, directly from the people. who pulled those building permits, but the County would not be taking any action against the City of Fellsmere. There is a legal issue at stake here, which he discussed with City Attorney Tsamoutales, but he believed that we could consider this a settlement of disputable legal issue, and then in return for giving up what is past, we would start on the program the way it should have been from the beginning. He didn't feel it would be a precedent that would hurt us with the other districts. Councilman Brooks understood that if the Council votes to start collecting the impact fees again, it would take effect as of the date it was voted in and there would be no back payment. Attorney Vitunac confirmed that would be correct, if the County Commission agreed. The County Commission has the option of going after the individual home owners who have pulled building permits during the last couple of years. Commissioner Wheeler understood that we would settle with the City, but we would still have the option of collecting from the home owners. Commissioner Scurlock stated that he would not support that option. l 13 BOOK N� "IE. L- 0�a W� (--JI i ITAII ''SAN � 1 19` 0 C�R' f,r, i� ®V .U�i MOTION WAS MADE by Commissioner Scurlock, SECONDED by Commissioner Bird, that the Board agree that if the City of Fellsmere opts back into the road impact fee program, the County would forego any rights to the monies that were not collected over the past 11-2 years, and that the Fellsmere City Council would begin collecting the fees and convey them to the County as stated in the ordinance. Under discussion, Commissioner Wheeler stated that he would like to support the part of the Motion that is for Fellsmere, but was reluctant to support the part of the Motion that precludes the County from collecting from individuals. Commissioner Scurlock felt it would be very difficult to go to those young families and try to collect $547, but Commissioner Wheeler interjected that we really don't know who should have paid these impact fees these past few years. THE CHAIRMAN CALLED FOR THE QUESTION. The Motion was voted on and carried unanimously. Councilman Brooks wanted to clarify a situation before the Council votes to go along with this impact fee collection. He explained that the City has a municipal block grant for the Carter Hall Subdivision to clear some sub -standard homes and possibly bring in mobile homes in their place. He asked if it would be required in such a situation to impose an impact fee for Pt -hat mobile home. Attorney Vitunac advised that an impact fee would not have to be charged if the mobile home replaced an existing home, and Director Davis explained that is not the purpose of the program. If you tore those homes down and built a public shopping center, then you have generated new impact. If you tear down a single - 14 family unit and put up a single-family unit, then there is no increase to the traffic system. Councilman Green was trying to figure out how $1.7 million could be collected in 6 years, and Director Davis explained that it really couldn't be collected in 6 years unless Fellsmere experiences a tremendous growth spurt. If that growth didn't happen, we might do just a piece of the $1.7 million project. Commissioner Scurlock felt that Councilman Green's point raises the question that if there isn't an ability by the Commission to extend the period beyond 6 years, how are you ever going to generate $1.7 million to do one of the larger projects. Director Davis advised that you would break the big project into smaller sections. Councilman Mraz felt that what Commissioner Green was suggesting is that if the accumulated funds do not reach $1.7 million, you would do as much as you could do and then possibly float a bond. Councilman Brooks noted that these funds are constantly changing as you collect more fees, and he didn't understand how you can cap it at 6 years. He asked when the 6 years begin. Director Davis explained if you came in today and paid your impact fee, the County would have 6 years to spend the money you paid. If in 6 years we did not spend the money you paid, you would have the right to come back and ask for it back. However, you would have to come in and ask for it, and the County has to show you that we have spent the money, but we have a very sophisticated tracking system. A gentleman from the audience asked if the City of Fellsmere returning to the County's impact fee program would prohibit the City from having its.own impact fee. Attorney Vitunac advised that it would not, but the problem is that even if the City adopts its own impact fee, it cannot use that money to pave dirt roads. 15 m 3® BOCK l ® F,1E ti F. J aco F.1u m=, Councilman Green understood that it could be used on the roads in the City that are designated as collector roads in the Comprehensive Plan, and Director Davis emphasized that they must be designated as collector roadwork and approved through the Transportation Planning Committee and the Board of County Commissioners in order to be put on the program. Commissioner Bird noted that one question that may come up when the City starts collecting these fees is when someone moves out of their house and builds a new house on the lot next door, and the City wants to collect $547 from them. It is very likely that they will say that they haven't added anything and that they just moved next door. The theory is, however, that they have created a new housing unit that someone is going to move into. Mayor Hurst agreed that it certainly would be an additional unit because he doubted that the property owner would leave the original house vacant. Councilman Thomas felt that while this impact fee may be creating a hardship on young families and people who are less fortunate in this area, but the fact is that we cannot discriminate. If one pays, everyone pays. He felt that his questions had been pretty well answered. There being no further questions, Mayor Hurst announced that the Chairman would entertain a Motion that the City of Fellsmere re-enter the impact fee program. ON MOTION by Councilman Brooks, SECONDED by Councilwoman Cosner, the Council unanimously agreed that the City of Felismere would re-enter into the impact fee program. 16 There being no further business, on Motion duly made, seconded and carried, the Council adjourned the meeting at 8:30 o'clock P.M. ATTEST: M Clerk ha1rman JAN 2 2 1990 17 'JG 7 E L --