HomeMy WebLinkAbout6/22/1990BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA
A G E N D A
CITY/COUNTY WORKSHOP
JUNE 22, 1990
3:30 P.M. - FIRST FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM
COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING
1840 25th STREET
VERO BEACH, FLORIDA
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Carolyn K. Eggert, Chairman
Richard N. Bird, Vice Chairman
Margaret C. Bowman
Don C. Scurlock, Jr.
Gary C. Wheeler
CITY COUNCIL
James E. Chandler, County Administrator
Charles P. Vitunac, County Attorney
Jeffrey K. Barton, Clerk to the Board
Jay Smith, Mayor John V. Little, City Manager
Michael Wodtke, Vice Mayor
Molly Beard Lawrence Braisted, City Attorney
Kevin Doty
Carl Pease Phyllis Neuberger, City Clerk
3:30 PM CITY/COUNTY WORKSHOP ON
WATER REUSE
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SPECIAL MEETING
Friday, June 22, 1990
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County,
Florida, met in Special Session with the Vero Beach City Council
at the County Administration Building, 1840 25th Street, Vero
Beach, Florida, on Friday, June 22, 1990, at 3:30 o'clock P.M.
Present were Carolyn K. Eggert, Chairman; Richard N. Bird, Vice
Chairman; Margaret C. Bowman; and Don C. Scurlock, Jr. Absent
was Gary C. Wheeler, who was on vacation. Also present were
James E. Chandler, County Administrator; Charles P. Vitunac,
Attorney to the Board of County Commissioners; OMB Director
Joseph Baird; and Barbara Bonnah, Deputy Clerk.
Present from the City of Vero Beach were Mayor Jay Smith,
Vice Mayor Michael Wodtke, and Councilman Carl Pease. Absent
were Councilwoman Molly Beard and Councilman Kevin Doty. Also
present were City Manager John Little, City Attorney Lawrence
Braisted, Finance Director Thomas Nason, and City Clerk Phyllis
Neuberger.
Chairman Eggert called the meeting to order, and asked
Commissioner Scurlock to begin the discussion on the reuse of
water.
CITY/COUNTY WORKSHOP ON WATER REUSE
Commissioner Scurlock felt that this joint meeting gives us
an opportunity to share some ideas about what we are doing and
where we are going in terms of future long -range -plan's for water
reuse. Within the past year and a half, the County Commission
hired Post, Buckley, Schuh, and Jernigan to prepare a reuse study
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on a county -wide basis, and knowing that the City has plans to
interface to some extent in terms of what City Manager John
Little has proposed to the City Council, especially with regard
to the barrier island, our overall thought was to share with you
today what we are doing and then set the framework for us to work
together where we can and where it is beneficial to both parties.
The south county area doesn't have a great ability to get rid of
effluent due to the lack of golf courses and large developments
that would be easy, single user customers. We have purchased a
150 -acre sod farm where we plan to reuse the effluent from the
west wastewater treatment plant, but ultimately we will have to
dispose of 6 million gallons a day (mgd), and the County hopes to
be able to work with the City to make an efficient use of the
effluent. We know the City has plans for expanding its endeavor
in the R.O. area, and looking at some of the numbers that we have
been given, a high percentage of the City's portable water is
being used for -irrigation purposes. If we could work together to
replace the need to expand the R.O. at approximately $1.50 a
gallon, it would be beneficial to the City's customers and
beneficial to the County in terms of disposal of effluent. As
you know, the Governor recently signed a bill that says no more
river discharge, but the City has moved to get the discharge out
of the river in any event. What he would like to do today is go
over the County's plan as to where we are and then, hopefully,
make some provisions where we can work together over the long
haul.
At this point, Commissioner Scurlock asked Utilities
Director Terry Pinto to explain where the County is at this point
in time.
Director Pinto explained that the County has moved toward
the recycling era of solid waste, sludge, and now effluent from
our wastewater treatment plants. The County's goal is to build
sub -regional facilities, particularly for wastewater. Eventually,
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we hope to have 5 sub -regional plants to cover the entire county,
but there are still some small treatment plants in existence.
Referring to a map, he pointed out all of the small wastewater
treatment plants that the County was trying to deal with when he
came here 8 years ago. The north county wastewater treatment
plant being built at Hobart will replace 16 of those small
treatment plants, and there will not be any treatment plants left
along the river in the county and there won't be any direct
discharge into the river by any private or public system. The
west wastewater treatment plant is already in operation; the
Gifford wastewater treatment plant, an FHA project, is now in
operation; and to service the south county area, we will either
build a wastewater treatment plant or purchase the existing
General Development Utilities' plant. What we have to do now is
plan what to do with the effluent when the plants are built. In
the central and northern portion of the county we have golf
courses which can use the effluent, but the big unknown is the
south county area. So, we are looking to reduce the building of
water plant capacity, and we are even looking at supplementing
our effluent with some other type of raw water for irrigation
purposes, whether it be out of the canals or out of shallow
wells. At the costs involved in wastewater treatment, it seems a.
shame to have to treat water to irrigate. There is a great
irrigation need in this county just for landscaping because
people wish to protect that investment in their property. So,
what we have named "Project Green Thumb" is to see how we can
reuse every last drop of effluent by distributing it out over the
county and the City. We certainly do not want to put any into
the river and we do not want to go into a deep well situation.
Although the deep well method is probably the most cost effective
way of getting rid of effluent, he didn't feel that is something
that Indian River County wants to do regardless of the savings.
He stressed
that everyone in the entire county will
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the efficient use of effluent. The County anticipates a line
going to the City's treatment plant, and if that happens we hope
for a line across the bridge to link all the systems for a total
combined system to supply irrigation water for everyone.
Ultimately, we will be creating about 4.5 million gallons of
effluent in the south county plant, and we can easily send 2 mgd
or even the entire amount to the barrier island if we lessened
the amount going farther west.
Director Pinto stressed that we are moving as quickly as we
can with this project, but there is always the question of
funding and rate structures. He briefly went over the
methodology for rate structures that he would be recommending to
the County Commission.
Commissioner Scurlock asked where we are at with regard to
what the City is willing to accept at this time, and Director
Pinto replied that he was not positive.
Mayor Smith stated that it was 2 mgd, and Mr. Little
emphasized that a letter was written to the County stating that.
Director Pinto felt the problem was that the letter only
said that the City may be able to do something.
Mayor Smith stated that he would clarify that right now.
The I*etter said that the City will accept two million gallons per
day from the County. The City is already oversizing the line and
hangers to accompany a larger line over the 17th Street Bridge.
Eventually, they would have had to do that anyway in order to
pick up the capacity of their plant when it reaches capacity.
They are not thinking of charging the County for the oversizing
of that line or for overstressing the blocks to carry the line.
The letter also says that at some future date when they come up
to full capacity of 5 mgd out of their plant, they may have to
put in some additional pumps in the beach area in order to handle
the County's 2 mgd, and it is at that point they think the
County would have to pick up the cost for those pumps. Mayor
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Smith stated that whatever arrangements the County can work out,
their planning now is to accept two million gallons per day from
the County at no cost, but the County will have to get it to
them. They will continue to take it almost in perpetuity, but
will expect the County to share in the costs to help distribute
it at a later date
Mayor Smith asked about the allocation to the three golf
courses on the barrier island, and Mr. Curren of Boyle
Engineering advised that the Moorings uses one quarter of a
million, Riomar uses one-half million, and John's Island one
million.
Mr. Little estimated that the power plant itself may use as
much as 500,000 gallons of effluent a day, and effluent will be
used on the landscaping on the power plant, annex, and the post
office. In addition, they will pipe effluent down the median of
Indian River Boulevard, at least within the City limits, and down
to the Merrill Barber Bridge access road. Where they are
trucking in water now, they will use effluent and that will
probably take 1-mgd; the balance then will be going to the
barrier island.
Mr. Little explained that they have looked at a number of
scenarios, but they probably will be recommending a sub -aqueous
crossing at the Barber Bridge and taking the main line down
through Riverside Park and Memorial Island Park and then down
Iris or one of those streets to AIA. It probably will be a 24"
line rather than a 20" line. He didn't feel that would change
the acceptance of the 2 million gallons that they have told the
County they could accept.
Director Pinto felt that if,the City makes a crossing at the
bridge, it should be sized to the anticipated maximum flow. He
noted that while south county's plant capacity is figured at 4.5
million gallons per day, that wouldn't be reached for 15 years.
Mr. Little pointed out that the problem in oversizing the
lines is the front money. There is no problem in the City taking
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2 mgd, but the thing we need to talk about today is that the
County would have to deliver it to them already treated for use
on residential.lawns and maintain their own wet weather discharge
point. The City does not want to take that risk;they don't think
they have enough room, nor do they want to spend the front money
in their treatment plant to undertake the treatment of all of
that. The County would have to bring the treated effluent to the
intersection of Indian River Boulevard and 17th Street.
Director Pinto emphasized that all the County is looking for
is to bring the final product to the.City .for them and to know
how much the City will be able to handle so we know how we will
build our system.
Carl Pease asked about the use of effluent on the vast area
of citrus west of 43rd Avenue, and Commissioner Scurlock felt
that any realistic, long-range arrangement with the AG people
isn't going to happen because they are concerned with their
market, as far -as the physiological aspect of it is concerned.
Mr. Little discussed at some length the lines that the City
plans to install on the beach and about the possibility of
running effluent lines to private residences in the future. He
agreed with Mr. Pinto's thinking that whatever the cost of deep
well injection would have been, just the cost of deep well
injection would have been levied against the wastewater customers
that are generating the effluent. The treatment cost to get the
effluent ready to put on residential lawns for unrestrictive use
and the transmission and distribution costs to get it somewhere
and delivered to the customer will be part of the effluent rate
structure. That is pretty much what they will recommend to the
City Council.
Mr. Little reiterated that if the County brings 2 mgd
treated effluent to 17th Street and Indian River Boulevard, the
City will not require any upfront capital from the County, at
least at this point in time.
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Commissioner Scurlock said he was just suggesting that if
there is anything we could do to save dollars in the long run,
and if that requires some sort of financial participation by the
County, let's look at it. He felt that our recommendation would
be that we are willing to participate.
Mr. Little felt that at some point in time when and if they
need the second sub -aqueous crossing, and if their plant effluent
was being used up and it was strictly for the County effluent
purposes, then the County could front the capital for that.
Director Pi"Tito advised that the first million gallons of
effluent would be produced by the south county plant probably in
one year's time and the second million by 1995.
Mr. Curren of Boyle Engineering, the City's consultant,
stated that they do not recommend accepting the two million
gallons per day from the County in the long term, and based on
the numbers the County is projecting, and even looking at the
highest projects for demand, they don't feel the City would ever
be able to take the full 4.5 mgd from the County.
Discussion ensued about the possibility of John's Island
taking more than 1 mgd in the future, and Director Pinto repeated
that all we need to know now is how much the City can take so we
can base our construction on that.
Mr. Little again stated that the City will accept 2 mgd of
treated effluent at no cost, if the County brings it to the
intersection of Indien River Boulevard and 17th Street.
John Morrison stated that their primary position is to
reuse water instead of going to deep well injection, and Mr.
Little stated that if everyone cooperated in the city and the
county, and if people watered every other day on different sides
of the street, they could get twice as much water through the
same sized pipes that are there.
Commissioner Scurlock thanked everyone for coming. He felt
this was an excellent meeting in that we got some things
clarified.
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There being no further business, the Chairman adjourned the
meeting at 4:50 o'clock P.M.
ATTEST:
Clerk
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Ch firman