HomeMy WebLinkAbout6/16/1992 (2)BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA
A G E N D A
SPECIAL MEETING -
TUESDAY, JUNE 16, 1992
7:00 P.M. - VERO BEACH COMMUNITY CENTER
2266 14TH AVENUE
VERO BEACH, FLORIDA
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Carolyn K. Eggert, Chairman
Margaret C. Bowman, Vice Chairman
Richard N. Bird
Don C. Scurlock, Jr.
Gary C. Wheeler
James E. Chandler, County Administrator
Charles P. Vitunac, County Attorney
Jeffrey K. Barton, Clerk to the Board
7:00 P.M. STATE MANATEE PROTECTION SPEED ZONE PROPOSAL;
COUNTY COMMISSION -SPONSORED PUBLIC HEARING
( memorandum dated June 10, 1992 )
ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO APPEAL ANY DECISION WHICH MAY BE MADE
AT THIS MEETING WILL NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF
THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE WHICH INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND
EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL WILL BE BASED.
SPECIAL MEETING
Tuesday, June 16, 1992
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County,
Florida, met in Special Session at the Vero Beach Community Center,
2266 14th Avenue, Vero Beach, Florida, on Tuesday, June 16, 1992,
at 7:00 o'clock P.M. Present were Carolyn K. Eggert, Chairman;
Margaret C. Bowman, Vice Chairman; Richard N. Bird; Gary C.
Wheeler; and Don C. Scurlock, Jr. Also present were James E.
Chandler, County Administrator; Charles P. Vitunac, County
Attorney; and Barbara Bonnah, Deputy Clerk.
The Chairman called the meeting to order.
STATE MANATEE PROTECTION SPEED ZONE PROPOSAL - COUNTY COMMISSION -
SPONSORED PUBLIC HEARING
The hour of 7:00 o'clock P.M. having passed, the County
Attorney announced that this Public Hearing has been properly
advertised, as follows:
VERO BEACH PRESS -JOURNAL
. Published Daily
Vero Beach, Indian River County. Florida
COUNTY OF INDIAN RIVER: STATE OF FLORIDA
Before the undersigned authority personally appeared J. J. Schumann, Jr. who on oalh
says that he Is Business Manager of the Vero Beach Press -Journal, a daily newspaper published
at Vero Beach in Indian River County., Florida; that the attached copy of advertisement, being
a
In the matter
in the Court, was pub-
lished in said newspaper in the issues of /� n
Affiant further says that the said Vero Beach Press -Journal Is a newspaper published at
Vero Beach, in said Indian River County, Florida, and that the said newspaper has heretofore
been continuously published.in said Indian River County, Florida. Pach daily and has been
entered as second class mail matter at the post office in Vero Beach in said Indian River Coun-
ty, Florida, for a period of one year next preceding the first publication of the attached copy of
advertisement; and affiant further says that he has neither paid nor promised any person, firm
or corporation any discount, rebate, commission or refund for the purpose of securing this
advertisement for publication in the said newspaper.
Sworn to and subscribed before me this __V_ day o . W A.D. 19
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PUBLIC NOTICE`
The Board of County Commissioners of hidlan
River County will hold a Special Meeting to discuss
the County's reoommendation to the Siete Depart-
ment of Natural Resources MANATEE PROTEC-TION SPEED ZONE PLAN. All Interested parties
are Invited to attend and partlalpate in the meeting
scheduled for JUNE iB 1892 at 7:00 O'CLOCK
P.M, in the VERO SEA& COMMUNITY CENTER
located at 2289 14th Avenue, Vero Beach, FL,
Copley of the State Plan aro avalable at the County
Planning Division Office.
Anyone who may wish to appeal any decision which
may be made at this meeting will need to ensure
that a verbatim record of the proceedingsb made,
wMch Includes testimony and evidence upon which
the appeal Is based.
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Chairman Eggert announced that tonight the County Commission
is sponsoring this public hearing to readdress the State Manatee
Protection Speed Zones Proposal. Anyone wishing to speak at
tonight's public hearing has been asked to sign a card with their
name and address and only those people will be recognized. She
wished to advise everyone of the rules that would be followed in
the public hearing. We always have been very proud of the fact
that the County Commission conducts professional and well-mannered
hearings and, to help us achieve that, we would appreciate your
hearing each person out in silence. We ask that there be no
cheering or booing or any other form of interruption. If there is
an interruption, that person will be asked to leave, and if they do
not leave, they will be provided an escort. Please be concise and
to the point and if someone has already basically said what you
intended to say, please come forward and state whether you are for
or against the issue rather than repeating the same thing over;and
over again. Each person will be limited to 5 minutes to express
their opinions. Chairman Eggert advised that the sign -in list of
those attending tonight's meeting will be placed on file in the
Office of the Clerk to the Board.
Chairman Eggert advised that Roland DeBlois, Chief of
Environmental Planning, will present MANWAC'S revised recom-
mendations to the State Manatee Protection Proposal, after which
she would open the public hearing to those who had signed cards
expressing their desire to speak.
Mr. DeBlois reviewed the following memo dated June 10, 1992:
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA
INTER - OFFICE MEMORANDUM
TO: James E. Chandler
County Administrator
DEPARTMENT HEAD CONCURRENCE:
Obert M. ReratAng, P
Community DevelopOmerW Director
FROM: Roland DeBloisr; �AICP
Chief, Environmental Planning
DATE: June 10, 1992
RE: State Manatee Protection Speed Zone Proposal;
County Commission -Sponsored Public Hearing
It is requested that the data herein presented be given formal
consideration by the Board of County Commissioners at their special
night meeting of June 16, 1992.
DESCRIPTION & CONDITIONS
At a public discussion on May 26, 1992, the Board of County
Commissioners considered the state Department of Natural Resources
(FDNR) manatee protection speed zone proposal. At that meeting,
the Board received recommendations from the Marine Advisory/Narrows
Watershed Action Committee (MANWAC) regarding comments to transmit
to the state. The Board voted unanimously to transmit the
recommended comments to the state. Following are the five (5)
recommendations:
1. Revise the seasonal recreation use areas so that the 35
m.p.h. speed allowance time frame extends from April 15th
to October 31st each year.
2. Eliminate all slow speed restrictions in the Intracoastal
Waterway channel (and adjacent 100' buffers), including
the elimination of seasonal slow speed within the, channel
of the Jungle Trail narrows, EXCEPT FOR recommended slow
speed under bridges and between channel markers 137 and
143 (Riomar Cut).
3. Revise the configuration of the unregulated recreation
use area in the south portion of the county, east of
channel markers 153-156, so that the unregulated area
is 300 yards wide extending from the south tip of Prang
Island to Porpoise Point, whereby the eastern boundary of
the 300 yard width is the barrier island shoreline.
Moreover, revise the unregulated area to include a 100
yard wide access corridor from the Intracoastal Waterway
channel to "Martin Cove", along the south side of the
existing east -west powerline (near channel marker 153).
4. Leave all residential canals (e.g., Vero Shores canals)
open to public access, even if at idle speeds.
5. [FDNB] dredge the flats at the confluence of the south
fork of the St. Sebastian River, to an appropriate depth
to allow for safe passage of both manatees and boats.
Subsequently, on May 27, 1992, the state held a public hearing in
the Vero Beach High School auditorium to receive comments from the
general public. Approximately 150 people attended the hearing,
some of which voiced a concern there was insufficient notice to the
public to provide comment to the Board of County Commissioners and
to the state concerning the manatee protection proposal.
At their regular meeting on June 2, 1992, the Board voted to hold
a county -sponsored public hearing on the proposed rule to provide
more opportunity for public input prior to the Board finalizing
comments to the state.
ALTERNATIVES & ANALYSIS
The official 21 day comment period following publication of the
proposed manatee protection rule in the Florida Administrative
Weekly has passed. However, the Board of County Commissioners has
the opportunity to submit comments to the state up to the day of
the final public hearing before the Governor and Cabinet, and may
present any Board recommendations at the final hearing. FDNR staff
have indicated that they are tentatively planning to present the
matter before the Governor and Cabinet on July 8, 1992.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Board consider public comments and make
finalized recommendations to the state regarding the proposed
manatee protection plan.
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Mr. DeBlois pointed out the slow speed areas designated in the
plan using the maps printed in the informational hand-out sheet.
He defined slow speed as approximately 7 mph, noting that it varies
with the type of boat. Essentially, slow speed is a speed with
minimal wake and steerage. Idle speed is just fast enough to
maintain steerage.
Mr. DeBlois recounted that on May 26 the Board of County
Commissioners held a public discussion and accepted recommendations
from MANWAC. On May 27 the FDNR held a public hearing at the Vero
Beach High School and received considerable comment from boaters
concerned about 80% of the river being slowed down to 8 mph or
less. A concern was raised that there should be more opportunity
for public input, which is why we are here tonight. MANWAC met
yesterday to reevaluate the input and revised the five
recommendations approved by the County Commission on May 26, and
added two more recommendations. He reviewed the following memo
dated June 16, 1992:
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA
M E M O R A N D U M
TO: Commissioner Gary C. Wheeler
MANWAC Chairman
FROM: Roland DeBlois, AICP
Chief, Environmental Planning
DATE: June 16, 1992
SUBJECT: MANWAC Revised Recommendations;
State Manatee Protection Proposal
Following is a summary of the Marine Advisory/Narrows Watershed
Action Committee's (MANWAC) revised recommendations concerning the
FDNR manatee protection proposal, as approved by MANWAC at their
meeting of June 15, 1992.1
1. Revise the seasonal recreation use areas so that the 35 m.p.h.
speed allowance time frame extends from April 15th to October
31st each year.
1 Underlined text represents changes/additions to MANWAC's
original recommendations of May 11, 1992.
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MANWAC Revised Recommendations
June 16, 1992
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2. Eliminate all slow speed restrictions in the Intracoastal
Waterway channel (and adjacent 100' buffers), including the
elimination of seasonal slow speed within the channel of the
Jungle Trail narrows, EXCEPT FOR recommended slow speed under
bridges and between channel markers 137 and 143 (Riomar Cut).
Revise all areas proposed to be 30 m. .h. maximumspeed within
the Intracoastal Waterway channel (and adjacent 100' buffers)
to 35_m.p.h. maximum speed.
3. Revise the configuration of the unregulated recreation
use area in the south portion of the county, east of channel
markers 153-156, so that the unregulated area is BOO yards
wide extending from the south tip of Prang Island to Porpoise
Point, whereby the eastern boundary of the 300 yard width,is
the barrier island shoreline. Moreover, revise the
unregulated area to include a 100 yard wide access corridor
from the Intracoastal Waterway channel to "Martin Cove", along
the south side of the existing east -west powerline (near
channel marker 153).
4. Leave all residential canals (e.g., Vero Shores canals)
open to public access, even if at idle speeds.
5. [FDNR] dredge the shoals at the confluence of the south
fork of the St. Sebastian River, to an appropriate depth to
allow for safe passage of both manatees and boats.
6. Revise the areas proposed to be slowspeed outside of and west
of the Intracoastal Waterway channel (and 100' buffers) to be
slow speed within 600' of the lagoon west shoreline, with the
remaining area (between the 600' west shoreline slow speed
buffer and the Intracoastal Waterway channel 100' buffer) to
be 20 m.p.h. maximum speed. This proposed revision does not
apply to recreation use areas and proposed idle speed areas.
7. Revise the areas proposed to be slow speed outside of and east
of the Intracoastal Waterway channel (and 100' buffers), from
the Wabasso Causeway to the south county line, to be slow
speed within 100' of the lagoon east (barrier island)
shoreline, with the remaining area (between the 100' east
shoreline slow speed buffer and the Intracoastal Waterwav
channel 100' buffer) to be 20 m. .h. maximum speed. This
proposed revision does not apply to recreation use areas and
proposed idle speed areas.
In addition to -the above recommendations, although not included in
the motion that was unanimously approved, there appeared to be a
strong consensus among those at the MANWAC meeting that there is a
need for mandatory boater education requirements (and boating
registration) with regard to manatee protection and boating safety.
Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.
cc: Robert Keating
Christine Panico
Alice White
' Pat Rose/Donna Bentzien
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Chairman Eggert thanked Mr. DeBlois for his presentation.
Commissioner Scurlock understood that the Board's intent
tonight is either to reaffirm our position or issue a new position
statement.
Chairman Eggert opened the Public Hearing to those in
attendance who had signed cards requesting to speak regarding this
matter.
Bill Moody, 6315 48th Avenue, member of MANWAC, appreciated
this additional opportunity for boat enthusiasts to express their
opinions and concern about our waterways. When this issue first
arose, he was totally against regulation and is still against
regulation without education. He stressed the benefits of
education and pointed out that without education being tied to
boater's registration or licensing, anyone can come from out of
state and put a boat in the water without having any knowledge of
the environment of the Indian River Lagoon. As an avid water
skier, he felt that is wrong and that people should be ;educated
about the river and the manatee. He believed that if the DNR wants
to protect the manatee, they should have boater registration tied
to boater education. Mr. Moody believed that the local boaters
would not be against regulation if it did something to protect the
manatee, but it is certain that education will make a difference in
protecting the manatee. He believed that people want to protect
the manatee but don't want to lose the use of the river in the
process.
Tim Bishop, 450 10th Street SW, thanked the Commission for
holding this additional hearing. Being an avid water skier for
many years, he opposed the restrictions being placed on certain
areas believed to be the best for water skiing. He was concerned
about the old channel by the yacht club and Spratt Creek. He felt
that this county can take care of itself by working with the
Florida Marine Patrol. He agreed wholeheartedly with education
being the best approach rather than regulation. He didn't feel the
DNR should be telling us what to do.
Wally Kramer of Micco thanked the members of MANWAC for all
the work they have done. He felt that if we had started an
educational program 20 years ago, we wouldn't need to be here
tonight. He agreed with MANWAC's latest recommendation which will
give protection to the manatee and allow people to continue to
enjoy water activities, but he felt sorry for the water skiers who
are being affected the most because they cannot adjust to slow
speeds. He cautioned that if manatee deaths increase, the DNR will
be back with even tighter restrictions. In addition, Mr. Kramer
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strongly objected to large cruisers going through the channel at 35
mph and throwing a large wake.
Robert Haas of Vero Shores supported everything that has been
said up to here, but felt the revised recommendations are still too
strict. He wondered why no one has considered sanctuaries for the
1500 manatees that are left throughout Florida.
Charles Webb, 715 Tides Road, felt we have to calm down and
recognize that we will have to compromise somewhere with regard to
the manatee protection plan. There is no way that everybody is
going to be happy with this plan. He believed the water skiers
will have to accept being restricted to certain areas and that
fishermen will have to accept a slower speed. He agreed there is
a lack of information on boat safety and protecting the
environment. Mr. Webb believed we have people out there who know
these things and people out there who know but don't care. He
personally felt there is a lack of courtesy on the part of water
skiers, and he has given up on fishing in certain places because of
that. He urged everyone to stop being anti -DNR and try to solve
this problem with common courtesy.
Dean Luethje, 6 Tarpon Drive, apologized for not knowing this
plan was coming down the pike until just a few weeks ago. However,
he did not feel it is too late to change the minds of the
bureaucrats in Tallahassee. He is opposed to the regulations, but
realizes we will have to compromise. As a sports fisherman, he
doesn't want to be pushed into the Intracoastal Waterway and put in
danger of being swamped by large boats. He expected someone would
be killed and he certainly didn't want it to be him. He talked
with State Representative Charles Sembler today who said he has
reviewed the plan and is concerned as he feels that the DNR has
used the broad brush technique on the plan. He hopes we can work
out something with the DNR on the modified plan and that he will
back us to his fullest extent. Mr. Luethje urged the Board to
accept the recommendations from MANWAC as modified at yesterday's
meeting plus the committee's encouragement for mandatory boater
education requirements (and boating registration) with regard to
manatee protection and boating safety. He hoped, if it becomes
necessary, that we can go all the way to Tallahassee to support
what we feel is right.
Jason D. Terrell, 3210 62nd Avenue, supported the speed
restrictions proposed by the State. He was having a hard time
understanding the lack of compassion some people are showing for
this species which was here a long time before us. He urged
everyone to slow down out on the river and support DNR's efforts to
save the manatee.
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Robert Turner of the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service stated that
he has spent considerable time fishing and boating in the Indian
River in various sizes of boats and currently holds a 100 -ton
master's license. With this background, he believed he has a good
understanding of the need to protect the manatees as well as an
understanding of a cross section of the boaters. Dr. Tom O'Shea,
director of the USFWS manatee research laboratory in Gainesville
has stated that Sebastian Creek is the most important manatee
concentration areas along the east coast. Between wintering in
areas in south Florida and coming north to spend the summer in
Brevard County, much of the east coast manatee population passes
through Indian River County. He believe we should be pro -active
and provide protection before manatee mortalities reach the levels
of Duval, Brevard and Palm Beach Counties. Applications already
have been submitted to the Army Corps of Engineers that would
double the number of boat slips in Indian River County. Mr. Turner
had no doubt that unless action is taken to impose slow -speed
zones, manatee deaths will increase due to the increase in boating
traffic. Mr. Turner stated that it is the USFWS's position that if
any project they review is likely to result in one additional
manatee death, it jeopardizes the continued existence of''the
species. With regard to 90% of the river being restricted to slow
speeds, he could not understand why that would not encourage more
families to enjoy the river.
Carol Johnson, public affairs administrator for the Vero
Beach/Indian River County Chamber of Commerce, wished to thank
county staff and MANWAC for coming up with some compromising
proposals. She read into the record the following letter stating
the Chamber of Commerce position:
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June 12, 1992
Indian River County Commissioners
1840 25th Street
Vero Beach, FL 32960
Dear Commissioners,
32961 407-567-3491 FAX: 407-778-3181
DISTRIBUTION LIST
Commissioners CSE
Administrator
Attorney
Personnel
Public Works
Community Dev.
Utilities
Finance
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The Board of Directors of the Vero Beach -Indian River County
Chamber of Commerce by a unanimous vote taken June 8, 1992 urges
the Commission to reconsider your recommendation to the
Department of Natural Resources regarding boating restrictions in
Indian River County.
We feel the proposal previously approved by the Commission would
be detrimental to our area for several reasons:
1) Indian River County has a proven record of low manatee
mortality for the past 17 years.
2) Lowering the boating speed in the majority of the river
to 5 mph will give a negative impression to those vacationing or
relocating in our area.
3) Recreational boaters and fishermen would be forced into
the intracoastal waterway and skiers will be limited to smaller
congested areas all of which lead to definite human safety
concerns.
4) We should not be "categorized" with other regions that
have been less responsible and we should not accept being painted
with the same broad, restrictive brush.
Manatee protection and survival'in the waters of Indian River
County has always been important and will continue to be. There
must be a compromise to the original recommendation.
Sincerely,
/xevVi resident
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Robert LeMasters of Sebastian was against more regulations.
He pointed out that Indian River County already has'slow speeds in
some areas and people have been trying to protect the manatee for
some years now. He has been on the river for,40 years and it is
his opinion that a slow speed is going to lull that sea cow to
think that he can go anywhere he wants because everybody is running
slow. He pointed out that the sea cow is not near as slow as some
people think. In all his years on the river, he has hit only one
sea cow and he sure didn't want to do that again. That was at idle
speed and he thought he had hit a log.
Patti Thompson of Maitland, staff biologist of Save the
Manatee Club, which has approximately 30,000 members nationwide,
stated that they support DNR's proposed rule. In fact, they feel
the DNR rule does not go far enough to protect the manatee. They
have always supported water activities taking place in land -locked
lakes and other places rather than in areas that are manatee
habitat. The DNR has worked hard to protect the manatee throughout
the state and Indian River County is just one piece of the big
picture. The manatees move through the lagoon on a daily and
seasonal basis and they cannot let Indian River County be the weak.
link in this important chain. As far as education is concerned,
Save the Manatee Club is convinced that education is not enough.
They realize that no one intentionally hits a manatee with their
boat, so the purpose of the slow speed zones is to give the manatee
time to get out of the way. She urged the Board to continue to
support the DNR's proposed rule as it is written now.
Allen Edwards, 29 year resident of Vero Beach, felt that
MANWAC's modified recommendations are a compromise for everybody.
Nobody got everything they wanted. With an increase in both
boaters and manatee population, there will be more collisions with
manatees, and he felt this is the time for a commitment to the
MANWAC recommendations.
John Little of Vero Beach stated that although he personally
doesn't like regulation of this sort, he believes it is necessary,
and he would urge the Board to support the latest revisions to
MANWAC'S recommendations that were hashed out yesterday afternoon.
All he heard at the last MANWAC meeting was that the DNR won't
accept this. He urged the Board not to operate on that premise.
It has been his experience that the DCA, the DNR and other agencies
in Tallahassee will dictate to you what to do. However, the DNR
has a job to do and we have a job to do, and, hopefully, out of
that controversy and dialogue will come an acceptable solution.
Part of the reasons for going before the Governor and Cabinet is
for us to express our views and for the DNR to express their views.
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We should not go there and speak with a single voice. People have
some rights also and he is getting a little uptight about that
never being mentioned. He felt this compromise takes into account
people's rights plus the need to protect the manatee.
Gary Rhinehart, 2102 15th Lane, felt he knew a little
something about this situation because his uncle runs charter boats
out of Ft. Pierce. He objected to our county being compared to
counties in southern Florida, and if it gets down to that, he is
against all this regulation. If they want to establish some speeds
in certain shallow areas and channels, that might work, but he
didn't believe the rest of this can be enforced.
Warren Winchester, 5 Tarpon Drive, stated that he loves the
river and loves boating, but also wants to see the manatee
protected. He believed the time has come .for regulation and
education. He endorsed MANWAC's latest recommendations and urged
the Board to be prepared to go to Tallahassee and present our
position to the Governor and Cabinet. Mr. Winchester believed the
responsibility of government, including the DNR, is for the benefit
of mankind, but it seems man is being left out of the DNR proposal.
Andy VanOs, resident of Indian River County for 15 years and
operator of 3 boats, felt the recent MANWAC recommendations are a
180 -degree turn which represents no plan at all. He did not see
any disadvantage to being regulated to a slow speed in certain
areas. He operates at safe speeds in order to protect the manatee.
Without any restrictions, he wondered how we would educate boaters
coming down the Intracoastal Waterway from up north. Mr. VanOs
stressed that there has to be some form of regulation in order to
keep things under control. It is his opinion that we need idle
speeds in the canals, slow speeds out of the Intracoastal Waterway
and a reasonable limited speed in the Intracoastal Waterway.
Ellie VanOs, resident of Vero Beach, stated that she has a
captain's license issued by the Coast Guard and operates her
husbands's boats. She believed the speed zones approved by the
Board of County Commissioners on May 26, 1992 were based on when
and where the animals are in the river. She emphasized that the
DNR worked very hard to get specific time periods of when the
animals are using particular corridors. MANWAC's revised recom-
mendations seem to be arbitrary and based more on simplification.
Mrs. VanOs didn't feel the word compromise could be used in this
case because any speed over 7 mph would not allow a manatee to get
away. She supported education, but not without meaningful
regulations as outlined in the speed zones that the Commission
endorsed on May 26.
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Dean Mays, resident of Vero Beach and owner of Dean's Elite
Wheels & Water Sports, was concerned that over regulating our
waterways in these hard economic times could result in doing away
with hundreds of jobs in marine related businesses. He wished to
point out that next to the citrus industry, the marine industry is
the next largest in this county. His particular involvement is
with personal water craft which are jet propelled and do not have
props. He believed safety is the important aspect that has to be
considered in this matter. Mr. Mays objected to putting all these
craft in two small areas designated for water recreation. He
stressed the need for more boater education rather than all this
regulation, and was against putting all the small recreational
boats in two small recreational areas. He cautioned that somebody,
perhaps a child, is going to get hurt and these regulations'` will
end up in the wastebasket. Mr. Mays felt that the people 'in Indian
River County have been taking care of manatees. He pointed out
that all the signs that have been posted to protect';`the" manatee
were not mandated by the DNR. They were posted by people who care
about protecting the manatee. He wanted to save the manatee, but
not at the expense of his children.
Rose Schulte of Palm Bay, representing the 1000 -members in
Indian River County and Brevard County of the Eternal Coast chapter
of the Sierra Club, stated that they are in favor of the DNR's
boating speed regulations proposal. She noted that Map #3 better
clarifies the buffer areas for slow speed. In the past it was very
difficult to distinguish between the slow speed areas and the idle
speed areas and for which periods of time. She felt the
recommendations that were made to the Board have clarified that
area very well. Their organization supports the licensing of boats
and feels that boater education needs to go hand in hand with the
licensing. They are in favor of the DNR's proposal for speed
regulations.
Carl Fetzer, 465 33rd Avenue, felt that MANWAC's
recommendations represent a very good compromise and that the DNR's
regulating everybody into two small areas endangers the safety of
both people and manatees. He noted that Broward County is heavily
regulated and it has been found that manatee deaths are occurring
in slow and idle speed zones. He felt the DNR has an obligation to
come up with a plan for what they feel is right, but emphasized
that Indian River County also has a right to come up with a plan
that we feel is right. He believed IRC's plan is totally
reasonable with respect to the manatee and to the use of the river
by boaters, water skiers and fisherman. Mr. Fetzer supported the
latest revisions to MANWAC's recommendations.
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Joan Carlson, representing the Humane Society of Vero Beach,
stated that her organization hopes that this Commission will be
pro -active in supporting the DNR's proposed regulations. They feel
that in addition to developing education programs, it is critical
to regulate manatee protection on the river.
Robert E. King, stated that his family has been in this area
since the 1800's and that he didn't think that he had to go to
school to know what a manatee looks like as he probably has eaten
more than some people have seen. Not too many years ago there was
a restaurant in Palm Beach County that served sea cows. He
objected to these restrictions because people want a place to water
ski without having to worry about fishermen and fishermen want a
place to fish without having to worry about water skiers. In
addition, when he wants to go to Sebastian, he doesn't want to take
3 hours to get there. He felt that most boaters slow down when
they see congestion and shallow water ahead. He doesn't want all
this regulation, and he doesn't want to be harassed. Mr. King felt
that people should just operate their boats with common sense.
John R. King, 135 9th Avenue, stated that his parents live out
in Vero Shores and he grew up there. He likes to water ski and
cannot see regulating water skiing to just two areas in the county.
People are going to die; forget the manatees.
Jack Jackson, 3030 Par Drive, supported the Board's approval
of the compromises made in the latest MANWAC recommendations. He
explained that the proposed speed was expanded to 20 mph to areas
outside the channel because of an increase in the county of hydro -
sliders that need 18-20 mph. The modified recommendations of
MANWAC gives them an area outside the channel, providing a greater
safety measure. His children hydro -slide in the channel and he is
scared to death when he pulls them out there because of the heavy
boat traffic. The gruesome score in the last 6 years is 4 manatees
to 3 children, and keeping everybody in the channel the way DNR
wants will only make those statistics even more lopsided. Mr.
Jackson felt that a 20 mph speed limit gives a educated boater
adequate time to see the manatee and adequate time for the manatee
to move out of the way.
Mark Yanno, 5402 Deer Run Drive, stated he has been water
skiing since he was a child, but supports the DNR's proposed
regulations. He has worked for the DNR and understands the threat
that boaters pose to manatees. As educated as he is about manatees
and as an experienced boater, he had an unfortunate incident two
years ago down by Round Island when despite all his efforts, he hit
a manatee. Fortunately, he was using a small 25 hp outboard, and
he believed the manatee probably survived. Mr. Yanno stressed that
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education is not enough; we need slow speed zones for the manatee.
He supported the DNR's plan.
Michael Gallagher, 3020 Par Drive, recited an old Indian poem
about how the earth was created.
Cliff Barnes, director of Florida Wildlife Federation, didn't
have any specific objections, but wished to emphasize that what we
are talking about here is an endangered species becoming extinct.
Education is not enough. Speed zones will protect both people and
manatees. He felt we must come up with a strong manatee protection
plan, but one that is reasonable and easily understood. If it is
not understandable, people will not know how to obey it.
Jens Tripson, 1740 21st St., chairman of the endangered
species of the Pelican Island Audubon Society brought up.the.matter
of erosion of the banks of the river and the destruction of
seagrasses. He cautioned that if we tear up the seagrasses, the
manatees will leave because that is their food source. Mr. Tripson
stressed that you can post speed signs everywhere in the river, but
if you cannot enforce it, it doesn't do any good at all.
Bruce MacIntyre, 701, Shore Drive, boating columnist for the
Press Journal, thanked the Commissioners and everyone for coming
out tonight. He noted that since the DNR meeting at the high
school, they have signed up a lot more people who were not aware of
what might be happening to our river. These people came out
tonight because they know the Commission is listening to their
opinions on the DNB's proposed speed zone regulations. He felt
the DNR regulations will cause congestion and accidents. He urged
those in attendance not to rely solely on the County Commission and
to take the time and effort to write the Governor and Cabinet. Mr.
MacIntyre believed that by getting our views across, we might win
this one yet.
Patrick M. Rose, Environmental Administrator of protected
Species Management, Florida Dept. of Natural Resources, thanked the
Board for holding this additional meeting. He wished to note that
the DNR has supported mandatory education and boat licensing for
over 5 years but have not been successful in the Legislature. He
encouraged the Board to take their request for education being tied
to boater's licensing to the Legislature. Following the last
County Commission meeting on May 26, when the Board approved the
support of the 5 MANWAC recommendations, and the public hearing at
the high school, they have taken that information and input and are
considering some changes to the proposed rules and some
adjustments. Mr. Rose felt it is going to be very difficult to
match the total recommendations of MANWAC with those of what the
DNR feels the manatee needs. He understood many of the conflicts
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and the reasoning behind many of the recommendations. He advised
that they were able to move a good bit closer to the positions
taken at the last meeting. The other concern in developing their
proposal was trying to present a plan that would be enforceable.
There are facets of the latest MANWAC recommendations that actually
will make it much more confusing in many respects, but there are
other things that probably will make it more understandable. So
again it is not a clear-cut situation.
Chairman Eggert announced that of the 10 letters received, 8
were for the DNR proposal and 2 were against.
There being no others who wished to be heard, the Chairman
closed the public hearing.
MOTION WAS MADE by Commissioner Scurlock,
SECONDED by Commissioner Bird, that the Board
support the latest MANWAC revisions and recom-
mendations of June 16, 1992, and authorize staff
to follow through on the proposal we are sending
to Tallahassee.
Under discussion, Commissioner Bird believed this county
doesn't have a major problem with killing manatees with boats and
that we could make a pretty strong argument not to have these
regulations. He was concerned that if we go too strong at this
time, we will never see any reduction in the regulations. He felt
the latest recommendations are adequate at this time and should be
supported by this Commission. He personally intended to go to the
mat on this issue even if it means going to the Governor and
Cabinet or the Supreme Court if necessary. He felt we are being
reasonable and that all of the compromises have been made on the
part of the boaters and not on behalf of the manatees, at least not
from what he has heard tonight.
Commissioner Wheeler, chairman of MANWAC, explained that the
committee members are of varied backgrounds who have an interest in
the river. They have worked long and hard to come up with this
compromise plan. He felt that DNR and Mr. Rose also have come a
long way and that there has been a big step forward in protecting
the manatee, the environment and other areas. Although no one here
may be completely happy, regardless of which side they are on, we
all need to live in this community and we all have some of the same
basic interests. Commissioner Wheeler believed the latest MANWAC
recommendation is a defendable compromise and that it is very
reasonable and very fair to all people involved and also one that
is protective of the manatee. He would like to see our plan given
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a chance to work, and if it doesn't work after a period of time, we
can consider increasing the restrictions. Commissioner Wheeler
felt a message has been sent to the boaters in this county and
neighboring counties to be more careful and more cautious.
Commissioner Bowman felt it was unfortunate that we have some
very discourteous boaters in this county. She has first-hand
experience as she has taken about 750 people out in a pontoon boat
during the last year and they will swamp you if they can and then
make an obscene gesture. She wondered how much change Commissioner
Wheeler and MANWAC will tolerate in the track record before being
willing to tighten down the regulations. She also wondered how
they would decide whether the manatee is becoming more and more
endangered. Commissioner Bowman disputed statements made tonight
and at prior meetings that there is an increase in the manatee
population. The animal is not out of danger. While a low
fatality count is cited for this county, we don't know where the
manatees were actually hit.
Chairman Eggert stated she is very caring about the manatee,
but did feel the MANWAC has come to a good compromise in the
latest revisions to their recommendations.
THE CHAIRMAN CALLED FOR THE QUESTION. The Motion
was voted on and carried 4-1, Commissioner Bowman
dissenting.
Chairman Eggert announced that the County will be sending
appropriate staff and Commissioners to Tallahassee to present our
position and that they will be there ahead of time to get the lay
of the land. Earlier in this meeting she had asked the County
Attorney whether it would be possible to pass a local ordinance
requiring boater education, and it was his answer that it probably
is not. He has researched this and the DNR agrees that changes are
needed in the State Statutes, but we could be a test case.
Chairman Eggert felt we could give some thought to that. She
encouraged those interested in mandatory education to get very pro-
active and get out a grass roots effort by sending letters to the
Governor and Cabinet.
Commissioner Bowman was very much in favor of licensing and
hoped the fees would go towards enforcement of the manatee
protection plan. She suggested that it might be less expensive to
hire the Sheriff to do it rather than the DNR increasing their
staff, boats, etc.
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There being no other business, on Motion duly made, seconded
and carried, the Board adjourned at 9:30 o'clock P.M.
ATTEST:
. Barton, Clerk
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