HomeMy WebLinkAbout2/9/1993 (2)SPECIAL MEETING
Tuesday, February 9, 1993
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County,
Florida, met in Special Session at the County Commission Chambers,
1840 25th Street, Vero Beach, Florida on Tuesday, February 9, 1993
at 1:30 P. M. Present were Richard N. Bird, Chairman; John W.
Tippin, Vice Chairman; Fran B. Adams; Carolyn K. Eggert; and
Kenneth R. Macht. Also present were James E. Chandler, County
Administrator; Charles P. Vitunac, County Attorney; and Diane
Albin, Deputy Clerk.
The Chairman called the meeting to order and introduced U. S.
Representative Jim Bacchus, District 15 (Democrat), who was here to
discuss the 1993 Legislative Agenda.
Congressman Bacchus stated that at times it is difficult for
a bipartisan delegation to work together cohesively. He has been
friends with U.S. Representative Tom Lewis for 20 years, and they
have worked together on matters of importance to this part of
Florida despite being in different political parties. He felt that
more of that type of relationship is needed in the delegation.
Congressman Bacchus conveyed that President Clinton visited
Democrats and Republicans on Capitol Hill about eight times during
his first two weeks in office, building goodwill across party
lines. In addition, Congress has met with a number of President
Clinton's staff members. These meetings can help the nation move
beyond gridlock, a necessity in dealing with the seemingly
insurmountable problems facing our nation, including the budget
deficit and health care crisis. Jobs must be created at a time
when the federal budget cannot tolerate more debt. The President
plans to speak to Congress and the nation next Wednesday night
about his proposed economic stimulus package which will be a
combination of spending for transportation and other kinds of
infrastructure; training and education; and tax breaks in the form
of capital gains cuts, investment tax credits and other types of
business initiatives to encourage economic growth in the private
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sector. The President also has a long-term deficit reduction plan,
which will be a combination of tax increases and spending cuts.
Congressman Bacchus will try to prevent the space station from
being cut because it has created 75,000 jobs and could create
hundreds of thousands more. The space station is an international
scientific joint venture, in which the United States is partners
with Japan, Canada, and Europe. Those nations have invested
billions of dollars of their own money towards the construction of
the space station. If this program is cut from our federal budget,
the other countries will probably build the space station without
us and will not join us in future ventures.
Several members of the Florida delegation met with Warren
Christopher, the new Secretary of State, to discuss the situation
in Haiti and to explain that the Florida delegation did not believe
the solution to the problem in Haiti is to move the population of
Haiti to Florida. Mr. Christopher agreed with that.
Congressman Bacchus emphasized that another issue of great
concern to him is federal funding for Florida. He thanked the
Board for the letters that were sent to the Department of Commerce
urging them to be fair in the federal dollars they give back to
Florida. Unfortunately, the funding formulas have not been
changed. Last week he and U. S. Senator Connie Mack introduced in
the House and the Senate a package of eight bills that will change
federal funding formulas to reflect current conditions. Passage of
those bills would enable Florida to receive hundreds of millions of
dollars more in federal funds for programs such as education,
transportation, child care, health care, and veterans' care. There
is strong support for this bill from the Florida delegation on a
bipartisan basis. Florida currently ranks 50th among the 50 states
in per capita federal grant aid, receiving $1.00 for every $1.65 we
send to Washington.
Congressman Bacchus then introduced members of his staff who
were present at the workshop: Dale Ketcham, District Director;
Denise Orlowski, Community Affairs Director; and Sean Roberts,
Constituent Development Director.
Commissioner Eggert related that Alan Campbell of the Indian
River County Council of 100 was advised by William Day of the
Economic Development Administration (EDA) that the County could
submit a two-page proposal and receive up to $25,000 in grant money
from the Economic Adjustment Program, which is Title IX. After
submitting a seven -page proposal, the County was informed by Boyd
Ross of EDA that Title IX grant monies were unavailable, but the
County could get a Title III grant. The County submitted a nine -
page proposal for a Title III grant and was told to submit a- larger
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application- package, which was submitted in December. Jim Campagna
of EDA informed the County on January 21st that there was no money
available for a Title III grant, but the County could apply for a
302(A) planning grant. He also told County staff that the grant
and proposed work program looked good, but the amount of money
requested was insufficient to do the identified work. Mr. Campagna
suggested that the County apply for $50,000 in grant funds and use
the money to hire a full-time planner dedicated to economic
development. Further, the County should hire an additional full-
time planner at a later date. Mr. Campagna was very emphatic that,
if the County did not agree with these conditions, no grant would
be forthcoming. Staff feels that the County is too small and does
not have enough work to keep one or two full-time planners busy.
Commissioner Eggert felt frustrated because the information was
contrary to information previously provided to the County.
Ms. Orlowski stated that she spoke with Mr. Day in early
January and was told that Indian River County was in line for a
$24,000 planning grant to hire someone to assist the County with
technical research. She added that she would speak to them again,
because her understanding was that the Department of Commerce
recommended that the County hire someone to do the technical
research and that the person could be an_outside consultant.
Congressman Bacchus suggested that the County let his staff
know immediately when this sort of thing happens so they can help
cut through the red tape.
Commissioner Eggert asked about the Intermodal Surface
Transportation Efficient Act of 1991 (ISTEA) funds, because she has
read in several national magazines that ISTEA funds are not
distributed to Florida.
Congressman Bacchus responded that he voted against the ISTEA
bill because it was unfair to Florida. Under the terms of that
bill, Florida, over a five-year period, will pay out $1.56 billion
more in federal gas tax receipts than will be received from the
federal government for transportation. Florida has been a donor
state since the mid-1950s and is currently ranked 56th in per
capita transportation aid from the federal government. When the
interstate highway system was in the early stages of construction,
it may have made sense to have some donor states. However, the
funding formula is not fair now that the interstate highway system
is virtually completed. Senator Bob Graham, former Congressman
Bennett, and he attempted to get the formula changed in the past
but were defeated. He felt that the greatest need for
transportation spending in the country is in the growing states of
the Sunbelt, especially Florida, which is expected to rank third in
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population within the next year. Florida would receive a lot more
money if it just received an amount proportionate to its
population. Transportation funding will be a component of the
economic stimulus package, and although he is not optimistic that
Florida will get its fair share in the future, he hopes federal
monies will be distributed more fairly than they have been in the
past. A number of transportation projects are critical to the
future of Florida, including commercial launch facilities, which is
a form of transportation. Florida is an -ideal state for
experimental mass transit projects because the land is level, and
the thousands of tourists who come to Florida would see how the
experiment worked. SR -60, SR -192 and SR -520 all need to be widened
and are important public safety projects. We should have learned
through our experience with Hurricane Andrew that we need good
roads to get people from the coast to the inland parts of Florida.
Congressman Bacchus advised that he will urge the State to get
these projects on the slate if additional funding becomes available
through the economic stimulus package. Part of the problem is lack
of clout in Congress and the Senate due to lack of seniority. The
new members must be educated about the urgency of this issue and
prevented from being bought off by a few pieces of pork in their
districts. He and Senator Mack will make a presentation on this
issue at the Legislative Delegation. Another challenge is getting
the State business community to focus on these issues in
Washington. The Florida Chamber of Commerce is beginning to
realize that it is important to focus on transportation and other
funding issues in Washington. Failure to address these concerns is
affecting growth management, and federal mandates on Medicaid are
squeezing everything else out of the State budget and driving
unfunded responsibilities back down to local government.
Commissioner Macht hoped that Congressman Bacchus will be
vigilant in the area of mandates, because the County constantly
struggles with unfunded federal government mandates that cost local
taxpayers a lot of money.
Congressmen Bacchus commented that one of the principal
reasons he decided to run for Congress was his experience at the
state and local level and a desire to see the federal government
give the local governments a great deal more flexibility. He is
against unfunded mandates at both the state and federal levels.
Broad discretion should be given to local government in how dollars
are spent because local government knows better what is needed at
the local level. Federal bureaucrats should not be giving the
states 200 pages of regulation as a condition of getting dollars
back that belonged to this state in the first place. President
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Clinton told the National Governors' Association that he agrees
with this idea.
Commissioner Macht mentioned that he is vitally interested in
the Indian River Idea, which is summarized in the following
diagram:
THE INDIAN RIVER IDEA: LEARNING OCCURS IN MANY SETTINGS
CORE GOALS
ECONOMIC COMMUNITY FAMILY PERSONAL
EVELOPVNT IREVELOPMENJ LOPMENTI IJ2EVELOPMENT]
MEDIA
NEIGHBORHOOD
IRECREATION `
LIBRARY, ETC.
STRENGTHENING INITIATIVES:
PTA
LEARNER
WORKPLACE
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HEALTH AND
HUMAN SERVICES
. SCHOOLS: Outside -the -school connections
. NEIGHBORHOOD: Build 12 Neighborhood Partnerships
• PEER GROUP: Build Elementary School Alumni Assoc.
. MEDIA: Community Telecomputing and Cable Channel
. CHURCH: Sharpen support role in personal, family
and community development
. PTA: Explore role in family development
. RECREATION: Sharpen role in youth development
• LIBRARY: Work with Adult Ed in learning support
• HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES: Begin shift to prevention/
development strategy from remedial/therapeutic
• FAMILY: Strengthen "family curriculum" and involve in
"Home -School Connection".
• LEARNER: Strengthen "self-directedness" at all age
levels supported by new technologies and new forms of
learner support such as Individual Learning Plan and
Adult Learning Support Service
SERVICE CLUBS: Explore role in neighborhood and youth
development aspects
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Congressman Bacchus indicated that he is attempting to attract
attention to the Indian River Idea at the state and federal level.
He met with representatives from the state and federal Departments
of Education and discussed the need for funding the Indian River
Idea. He is currently trying to get a planning grant from the
National Science Foundation to make this a pilot project for a
national program. Last year he succeeded in obtaining a $10
million grant for the State Department of Education to conduct a
five-year study on how to make retain students' interest in math
and science from preschool through 12th grade. He has urged the
State Department of Education to incorporate the Indian River Idea
in that project and provide some funding at the local level.
Commissioner Macht asked Congressman Bacchus what his position
is on the line item veto and the capital gains tax.
Congressman Bacchus expected President Clinton's economic
initiative package to include a reduction in capital gains tax on
long-term investments. He was not as confident that the line item
veto will be enacted, although he voted for it. There has been
some discussion about the possibility of enhanced rescission, which
is similar to the line item veto and might be a compromise.
Commissioner Eggert mentioned the issue of utilities service
to mobile home parks, and Congressman Bacchus advised he was
planning to visit the New Horizons Mobile Home Park tomorrow.
Commissioner Eggert expressed that the County has been looking
for incentives that would attract new businesses. We are also
concerned about the beaches, and have again applied for federal
funding.
Congressman Bacchus assured the Board that he has followed the
beach issue closely and hopes the County and Vero Beach can reach
agreement on a specific beach renourishment plan. He expressed
doubt that federal funding will be forthcoming because a specific
plan has not been formulated and there is opposition to beach
renourishment within the community because of environmental issues.
Discussion ensued regarding the scrub jay issue and Endangered
Species Act, which is coming up for renewal, and the effect of such
legislation on growth and the local economy.
There was discussion about hurricanes and the fact that many
people felt that the federal Emergency Management Association
(FEMA) did not provide an adequate response to Hurricane Andrew.
Congressman Bacchus predicted that the Clinton Administration will
replace many of the current employees, who are there because of
political patronage, with more qualified personnel.
Vincent McCann, Veterans Services Officer, asked for an update
on the proposed Veterans Hospital.
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Congressman Bacchus reported that the previous Secretary of
Veterans Affairs recommended that Orlando be the site of the
proposed Veterans Hospital for East Central Florida. The Brevard
site was proposed as a joint venture with the Air Force.
Congressman Bacchus felt it would be preferable to build one
hospital instead of two, especially in view of the shortage of
federal funds. The General Accounting Office performed a study and
concluded that the Brevard County location would be preferable for
a number of reasons, including cost, access, and overall quality of
care. The Air Force already has $20 million allotted, so it would
save a great deal in construction costs to build a shared facility.
Further, based on the experience at other facilities, the quality
of care would be better and the operating costs lower at a shared
facility. Jesse Brown is now Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and
the issue will be revisited during the next fiscal year.
Edra Young, 1151 Clairmont Street, Sebastian, urged
Congressman Bacchus to pursue the idea of having a federal records
depository in Indian River County. She felt it could be an
excellent stimulant to the local economy, and stressed that
genealogy is now the fastest-growing hobby among senior citizens.
Congressman Bacchus recalled that he pursued having a federal
records depository in this area some time ago, but was not
successful. He indicated he would try again, but was not
.optimistic.
Bill Roolage asked for a copy of the Cable TV legislation. He
also discussed the Social Security tax, and the fact that the
unified budget uses the Social Security fund to offset other
federal budget items.
Congressman Bacchus explained that the Social Security fund is
a trust fund on paper, but in reality it is nothing more than a
claim against future tax receipts of the federal government. He
felt that it should be separated from the rest of the federal
budget, which is how trust funds are handled at the state level.
Discussion ensued regarding the magnitude of the federal
budget deficit and concerns about inflation.
Beverly O'Neill, Hospital Taxing District Trustee, asked about
the status of health care reform.
Congressman Bacchus felt that there is a need for market-based
reform that would squeeze out inefficiencies and allow competition
at the local level. He explained that President Clinton intends
to submit a bill by the first of May.
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The Chairman asked if there were any other questions from the
public. There being none, the Chairman closed the public
discussion.
There being no further business, the Board adjourned at 10:30
o'clock a.m.
ATTEST:
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LT Barton, Clerk
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Richard N. Bird, Chairman