HomeMy WebLinkAbout6/24/1993. MINUTES ATTACHED
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA
A -G E N D A
JOINT WORKSHOP MEETING - VERO BEACH CITY COUNCIL
AND BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
THURSDAY, JUNE 24, 1993- -
9:00 A.M. - FIRST FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM
COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING
1840 25TH STREET
VERO BEACH, FLORIDA
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Richard N. Bird, Chairman (Dist. 5)
John W. Tippin, Vice Chairman (Dist. 4)
Fran B. Adams - (Dist. 1)
Carolyn K. Eggert (Dist. 2)
Kenneth R. Macht (Dist. 3)
CITY COUNCIL
Jay Smith, Mayor
Caroline Ginn
Jack Grossett
William Jordan
Carl Pease
DISCUSSION OF TOURIST TAX
James E. Chandler, County Administrator
Charles P. Vitunac. County Attorney
Jeffrey K. Barton, Clerk to the Board
Tom Nason, Acting City Manager
Larry Braisted, City Attorney
Phyllis Neuberger, City Clerk
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SPECIAL JOINT 14EETING
June 24, 1993
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County,
Florida, met in a Special Joint Meeting with the Vero Beach City
council in the First Floor Conference Room of the County
Administration Building, 1840 25th Street, Vero Beach, Florida, on
Thursday, June 24, 1993, at 9:00 o'clock A.M. Present were Richard
N. Bird, Chairman; John W. Tippin, Vice Chairman; Fran B. Adams;
Carolyn K. Eggert; and Kenneth R. Macht. Also present were James
E. Chandler, County Administrator; Charles P. Vitunac, County
Attorney; and Barbara Bonnah, Deputy Clerk.
Present from the City of Vero Beach were Jay Smith, Mayor;
Caroline Ginn, Vice Mayor; Councilmen Jack Grossett, William
Jordan, and Carl Pease; Tom Nason, Acting City Manager; Larry
Braisted, City Attorney; and Phyllis Neuberger, City Clerk.
Chairman Bird called the meeting to order.
DISCUSSION OF TOURIST TAX
County Administrator Jim Chandler recounted that the Board
requested a meeting with the Vero Beach City Council to discuss the
Tourist Development Council's allocations and to try to arrive at
a general or conceptual agreement for the future. one of the most
prevalent suggestions has been that a dedication of funds be made
to the beach project. There has been a great deal of optimism and
interest on the Prefabricated Erosion Protection (PEP) reef project
being done for the Town of Palm Beach. The consultant's report on
the study being done by Coastal Technology for Indian River
County's Beach & Shore Preservation Advisory Committee (BSPAC) is
due in September. Another suggestion has been to increase the
tourist development tax by an additional cent and preliminary
numbers show an additional cent would generate about $175,,000
annually. For bonding purposes, it appears $1.875 million would be
available for construction, but those are very preliminary figures.
The BSPAC is considering the alternatives and by September, we will
have specifics on alternatives and costs.
Mayor Jay Smith believed that the City Council generally
would be in favor with what is known as the "Little Plan," which
would be to pledge District #1 income, its fair share, for up to 20
years to pay of f a bond. This plan would allow a fast track
approach to putting in a PEP reef . He felt it goes without saying
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that the City was a little disturbed at the distribution of the
tourist tax funds this year to the point that the majority of the
Council was on the verge of taking some action to force a
referendum to withdraw District #1 from the tourist tax situation.
He felt the City would be in favor of such a project if we could
come to a conceptual agreement where the City would pledge its fair
share of the tourist tax, whether that is two or three cents, to
pay off these bonds over a 20 year period.
Chairman Bird asked Commissioner Adams, who chairs the Beach
Shore Preservation Advisory Committee (BSPAC) if there is any
chance of getting some federal funding for the PEP reef project.
commissioner Adams agreed that the "Little Plan" would allow
us to fast track the PEP reef project. The permitting process
would be the same. The only stumbling block might be that the Army
Corps of Engineers considers this as an experimental project and
they don't like to fund experimental projects. That is their
policy problem, but she felt that we have had excellent response
from senators and representatives who are beginning to see the
damages of some of the other methods being used to protect the
shoreline and the stifling of energies being put into new
technology. The lobbying process has begun to get policy changed
so that all of the money Palm Beach put into the reef will be
refunded by the federal government. We are working towards that
also, and hopefully we can get a policy change and the reef project
can be funded just like regular sand pumping. All the members of
BSPAC have seen the Palm Beach reef project and feel very
comfortable that it will work here and that it is the best
technology available. From that aspect, we won't know the
alternatives until Mike Walther of Coastal Technology Corp.
finishes his report in September. There has been no argument
brought up for any other method. She felt if we were to levy the
additional one cent tourist tax, it probably would speed up the
process by one year with the permitting. The critical *spots are
the beaches in Vero Beach and Wabasso.
Mayor Jay Smith advised that the project would cost
approximately $2 -million to protect 2500 feet which would cover
Humiston Beach and Conn Beach with a gap by the Spires. One of the
benefits of the PEP reef in Palm Beach is there has been
substantial sand accretion to the south of the project and some to
the north. The Council is in agreement on allocating up to 1 or 1-
1/2 of District #1 money to defease a bond issue and earmarking any
money that is recouped from state or federal funding into an escrow
account, controlled by the County, for beach maintenance and future
beach restoration.
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Commissioner Adams felt that the beach committee would agree
to that because it benefits tourism and recreation. Of course, the
main goal of the project is to protect the shoreline.
County Administrator Jim Chandler understood that the Town of
Palm Beach reef project was done at a cost of $500 a foot. Due to
the unknowns, we expect our project cost to be $600 a foot.
Public Works Director Jim Davis advised that is just for
construction costs and does not include permitting and monitoring
costs. There were 3 permits obtained for the Palm Beach project.
Mayor Smith felt that the Vero Beach engineering department
probably could take on the monitoring. He hoped that the
experience gained through the consideration of the sand pumping
method could help us do this project in 12 or 14 months rather than
18 months.
Chairman Bird understood that if w� stayed with the two cent
tax, it would require a major reallocation of the Tourist
Development Council's funding.
Commissioner Eggert had two concerns, the first one being that
we continue with a good program of advertising to attract tourists
to happy Vero Beach and its beaches, and the second is not to slow
down the beach protection project. She believed that everyone from
the County f eels that the better solution is to go to the third
cent. Apparently, Brevard County is going to a fourth cent which
can be used to fund a sports complex. She felt it is important to
go forward with this.
Former Vero Beach city manager John Little understood that the
State of Florida picked up a great deal of the monitoring costs f or
the Palm Beach project, so it is probable that they would do the
same for Indian River County. He advised that there are scads of
drawings available that were done by the Army Corps of Engineers
on the sand pumping project, and if that project had been done many
years ago, it would have cost about $4 million. Mr. Little
pointed out that the sand source for renourishment of the beaches
was never acceptable. He strongly suggested that BSPAC take
advantage of all the wealth of material that has gathered over the
years. He felt we can have a good project by going from the
fishing pier at the Vero Beach Inn to Humiston Park, but dropping
out the section between the Spires and the south end of Conn Beach
because it is not public property and we need some way to cut
funds. If our information is correct that there is a great deal of
down drift benefit from the PEP reef, that gap in the middle
probably will fill itself. However, if you look at doing those
areas, you are looking at $3.6 million, not $2 million. Mr. Little
strongly suggest several courses of action:
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Research the changes in State law pertaining to use of
tourist taxes.
Bring our ordinance into compliance with State law.
3) Pass the additional one cent tax and be sure that the
language in the ordinance meets State law and provides the
flexibility that is needed.
Mr. Little stressed that there is no purpose in advertising
for tourists if there are no beaches for them to enjoy. Mr. Little
also suggested that the County rescind its previous decision on the
tourist tax allocation and reallocate $80,0000-$100,000 of the
current money to the BSPAC so that they will have $50,000 front
money plus whatever else is needed to proceed with the PEP reef
permitting process so that we don't have to wait until the
ordinance to levy an additional one cent becomes effective in
September or October. He f elt that still gives the Chamber of
Commerce more than they need or expected to get.
Commissioner Adams stated that the primary reason to restore
the beach is for storm protection and because of that there is a
certain commitment of the property owners on the barrier island to
contribute to this. She really believed that we need to consider
creating an erosion control taxing district for those - areas
benefiting from storm protection. She didn't feel we should fund
the whole thing. Those are things the BSPAC will be looking at.
George Gross, former staff member of the City's beach
committee, advised that a certain amount of money is needed to get
the engineering started. He felt we need anywhere from $50,000 to
$100,000 now in order to get an engineering firm started on
collecting the needed data to get construction started by next
year.
Councilman Jordan asked why we don't have sufficient data
considering the fact we have been studying this problem for 20
years.
Mr. Gross explained that we found out that we don't have reefs
formed from crustaceans, we have rocks. Another unknown is the
distance from shore for which the County would be responsible. The
$10,000 study basically took a few pictures, and we need to know
the distance to take it from the water line out to a minus 10 feet
and the bottom conditions at that exact point. He noted that the
Palm Beach project is about 200 feet off shore at a point of minus
9 feet.
Commissioner Adams explained that if the sand builds up from
the shoreline over the years, the reef can be moved further out.
She was not in favor of reallocating the Tourist Development
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Council funds, but would support an additional one cent tax. She
would like to see us take advantage of this opportunity now and
investigate setting up an erosion control taxing district later on.
Mayor Smith reiterated that the City is looking for conceptual
agreement from the County Commission to dedicate t o the beach
project up to 50 percent of the money that normally would have been
allocated to District #1.
Lengthy discussion ensued regarding the feasibility of
reallocating the Tourist Development Council funds, and Mr. Little
recommended that $80,000-$100,000 be reallocated immediately to
fund the engineering that is needed.
Attorney Vitunac confirmed that the State law says you cannot
take more -than 50 percent of the total take of the District #1 tax
for a beach project.
Mr. Little could not imagine a greater priority than saving
the beach, especially after 20 years of talk.
Joe Baird, county OMB Director, didn't anticipate a bond issue
for at least two years because the project has to be done through
a systematic process. He expected to see it in the 1994-95 fiscal
year funds; however, we would need money in the 1993-94 fiscal year
for engineering studies.
Mr. Nason suggested making a bond issue declaration of intent
where we could recoup the expenses of the bond issue. He felt we
could be ready by next summer, providing that the permitting is
obtained. That would mean we must have the source of money in
place, which means the bond issue would be no later than the fall
of next year. He understood the consultant wants $50,000 up front
to get him started and that is what he is asking from Indian River
County.
Mr. Little felt that Commissioner Adams' beach committee
should get together with the reef people to see what is needed and
when.
Commissioner Macht asked why we need Michael Walther's study
now, and it was explained that the Corps needs to know the
distances from the water line to the reef.
J. B. Norton of the Vero Beach/Indian River County Chamber of
Commerce stated that they are not ready to give up any of the money
that was allocated, but if the County wants to revisit this matter
to set up an additional one cent to get something going, they would
be willing to sit down this afternoon to discuss it. They, too,
are anxious to see the reef project built as soon as possible.
Deputy County Attorney Will Collins advised that if we adopt
an ordinance for an additional one cent tourist tax in July, it
will become effective September 1, 1993. If we adopt it in August,
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it will become effective October 1, 1993. To adopt an ordinance
of this type, 4 of the 5 Commissioners must vote in favor of it.
Councilwoman Caroline Ginn asked, and Commissioner Adams
confirmed that the BSPAC is in agreement on the PEP reef.
Commissioner Tippin, chairman of the Tourist Development
Council, was thrilled to hear the cooperation that was oozing here
today. He f elt that to go back and reallocate the tourist tax
funds would open up a real big bag of worms. He supported the
complete dedication of an additional one cent tourist tax towards
the beach project, which he understands would bring in $175,000
annually.
Commissioner Adams introduced Dr. William Stronge of Regional
Research Associates in Boca Raton who suggested that in addition to
the allocation of an additional one cent to the beach, that the
ordinance be revised to set aside a portion of the revenues for
advertising in order to avoid conflicts.
Director Baird explained that the $50,000 up front money could
be handled with the cash flow.
Attorney Collins advised that if we went with the engineer on
the Palm Beach project, the County's purchasing rules require that
we follow the Consultants Competitive Negotiations Act (CCNA);
however, there are circumstances where that can be waived.
Chairman Bird stated he would feel more comfortable in voting
for an ordinance levying an additional one cent tax if the Board
had a recommendation to that effect from the Tourist Development
council.
Councilman Jack Grossett inquired about the money currently
allocated to the beach project, and Commissioner Adams advised that
those funds have been committed and are not available for the up
front engineering money.
MOTION WAS MADE by Commissioner Eggert, SECONDED by
Commissioner Adams, that the Board agree to the
concept of dedicating up to half of the tourist tax
revenues to secure revenue bonds for beaches and
restoration; that we proceed to public hearing in
July to adopt an ordinance levying an additional one
percent tourist tax, effective September 1, 1993;
and ask BSPAC to continue their work towards what
looks like a positive reaction to the PEP reef and
to research setting up an erosion control beach
taxing district.
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Under discussion, Commissioner Eggert stressed that she was
not talking about revisiting a reallocation because she agreed with
Director Baird that we could handle the $50,000 that is needed up
front from the cash flow.
THE CHAIRMAN CALLED FOR THE QUESTION. The
Motion was voted on and carried unanimously.
Discussion took place on how the ordinance should be written,
and Mr. Little suggested the language, "shall be pledged up to 50
percent."
Chairman Bird thanked everyone for coming and for their
cooperation and felt this meeting would go down in history.
Commissioner Macht wanted to extend our thanks to John Little
and George Gross for all their input and effort through the years.
Mayor Smith reiterated the City's hopes of fast -tracking this
project and that any reimbursement would be pledged toward a
special fund for maintaining the beaches.
Commissioner Macht suggested that after the final decision is
made to go with a PEP reef, that we send a joint resolution to the
State stating our intentions.
There being no further business, on Motion duly made, seconded
and carried, the Board adjourned at 10:25 o'clock A.M.
ATTEST:
J. K. Barton, Clerk
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