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FOR THE JOINT MEETING OF THE
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD
CITY OF FELLSMERE COUNCIL
CITY OF SEBASTIAN COUNCIL
CITY OF VERO BEACH COUNCIL
TOWN OF INDIAN RIVER SHORES COUNCIL
TOWN OF ORCHID COUNCIL
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 16, 2005 AT 1:30 P.M.
THE RICHARDSON CENTER
INDIAN RIVER COMMUNITY COLLEGE MUELLER CAMPUS
6155 COLLEGE LANE,
VERO BEACH, FLORIDA
1. CALL TO ORDER - THOMAS LOWTHER, IRC BCC CHAIRMAN
2. INVOCATION - STAN BOLING, IRC PLANNING DIRECTOR
3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - MAYOR THOMAS WHITE, CITY OF
VERO BEACH
4. WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS - THOMAS LOWTHER
5. OVERVIEW OF THE MEETING - ROBERT KEATING, IRC
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
6. REVIEW OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE RATE
SCHEDULE - ROBERT KEATING
7. REVIEW OF IMPACT FEE STUDY - ROBERT WALLACE, TINDALE
OLIVER AND ASSOCIATES VICE PRESIDENT
8. DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS
9. ADJOURNMENT
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
IMPACT FEE STUDY JOINT MEETING - FINAL REPORT
WITH MUNICIPALITIES AND INDIAN RIVER COUNTY
SCHOOL BOARD - MARCH 16, 2005
COMMUNITY COLLEGE MUELLER CAMPUS -
RICHARDSON CENTER
CALL TO ORDER
INVOCATION
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS
OVERVIEW OF THE MEETING
REVIEW OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO TRAFFIC IMPACT
FEE RATE SCHEDULE 4
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ROBERT WALLACE - TINDALE-OLIVER AND ASSOCIATES,
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DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS 5
ADJOURNMENT - 3:40 P.M 10
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MARCH 16, 2005
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REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS
The Board of County Commissioners of Indian River County, Florida, met in Special
Joint Session to consider the Impact Fee Final Report with the members of the Indian River
County School Board, the City Council of Vero Beach, the City Council of Sebastian, the City
Council of Fellsmere, the Town Council of Orchid, and the Town Council of Indian River
Shores at the Richardson Center of Indian River Community College Mueller Campus, 6155
College Lane, Vero Beach, Florida, on Tuesday, March 16, 2005 at 1:30 p.m. Present were
Chairman Thomas S. Lowther, Vice Chairman Arthur R. Neuberger, Commissioners Sandra L.
Bowden, Wesley S. Davis and Gary C. Wheeler. Also present were County Administrator
Joseph Baird, Assistant County Attorney William K. DeBraal, Executive Aide to the Board
Kimberly Massung, and Deputy Clerk Maria I. Suesz. Also present from the School Board were:
Vice Chairman R. Craig McGarvey, Ed D., District #3; Katherine Wilson, District 5, and Lenora
Quimby, District 2. Present from the City of Vero Beach were: Mayor Mary Beth McDonald,
Vice Mayor Thomas P. White, Council Members Sabin C. Abell, Jr., Bob Solari, and Debra
Fromang; from the City of Sebastian were: Vice Chairman Brian S. Burkeen, Council Members
Andrea B. Coy, and Salvador Neglia; from the City of Fellsmere: Deputy Mayor John McCants
and Council Member Joel Tyson; from the Town of Indian River Shores: Mayor Thomas W.
Cadden, Council Members Dr. David J. Becker; E. William Kenyon and Francis Atchison; from
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the Town of Orchid were: Vice Mayor Walter Sackville and Council Member Richard G.
Dunlop and Barbara Greenbaum.
All of the above were seated at a U-shaped table and the meeting was broadcast live for
television and digitally recorded by the School Board's media group.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Lowther called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
2. INVOCATION
Indian River County Planning Director Stan Boling gave the Invocation.
3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Vero Beach Vice Mayor Thomas White led the Pledge of Allegiance.
4. WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS
Chairman Lowther asked each municipality and School Board to introduce their Council
Members and staff that were present.
Vice Mayor Brian Burkeen introduced the City of Sebastian elected officials and City
Attorney Rich Stringer.
Mayor Richard Dunlop introduced Orchid's Town Council that was present.
Deputy Mayor John McCants introduced the City of Fellsmere's Council member Joel
Tyson, City Manager Jason Nunemaker and City Attorney Warren Dill.
Mayor Mary Beth McDonald introduced the City of Vero Beach elected officials and
City Manager David A. Mekarski, City Attorney Charles P. Vitunac, former City Manager Tom
Nason and City Clerk Tammy K. Vock.
Mayor Thomas W. Cadden introduced Indian River Shores' Town Council and Town
Manager Robert Bradshaw.
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Vice Chairman Dr. Craig McGarvey introduced the School Board Members present and
Superintendent Thomas B. Maher, Superintendent of Planning and Operations Dan Maclntyre,
Superintendent of Business and Finance Linda Robinson and Executive Assistant to the School
Board Judy Stang.
5. OVERVIEW OF THE MEETING
Community Development Director Bob Keating explained the purpose of this meeting
was to provide information on impact fees: methodology and the proposed interlocal agreements.
He also wanted to reach a point of consensus of approval on the fees and the interlocal
agreements. He gave a brief background of the impact fee study from the onset in Spring 2004
up to now and explained some delays that occurred in the process due to the School Board's
capital improvements budget drafted in August 2004 and after the hurricanes. He handed out
updated information to be applied to the Impact Fee Final Report that illustrates the products
used for the methodology report, and how they determined the eight new impact fees. Also the
report contains the impact fee schedule and a copy of the interlocal agreements explaining that
the difference between the agreements is the facilities/services impact fees category. This
process will provide material to work with the County Attorney to prepare an ordinance that will
be adopted to implement the impact fees into law and material to work on administrative tools.
A computer program is to be given to municipalities to obtain information and to store that
information in a database giving them the ability to transfer funds to the County on a regular
basis.
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6. REVIEW OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO TRAFFIC IMPACT
FEE RATE SCHEDULE
Director Keating reviewed the history of traffic impact fees back to its origin in 1986.
The last change was made in May 2004 when the Board accepted the Consultant's report to triple
the traffic impact fees. Director Keating displayed a chart (copy on file) detailing the phased in
schedule over a 4 -year period adopted by the Board Recently the Board realized that the County
was not getting sufficient monies necessary to accommodate the fiscal impacts of new
development on Capital Facilities. The Board decided to eliminate the discount and directed
staff to initiate impact fees up to the amount the Consultant recommended and that is with a 15%
discount rate. He displayed the transportation impact fees rate chart (copy on file) that includes
the increase in traffic impact fee rates eliminating the phase-in category.
7. REVIEW OF IMPACT FEE STUDY - VICE PRESIDENT
ROBERT WALLACE - TINDALE-OLIVER AND ASSOCIATES, INC.
Vice President Robert "Bob" Wallace, Tindale -Oliver and Associates, Inc., used a
PowerPoint presentation reviewing the background on how the Board initiated the study, the
setup of an oversight committee, outlined the eight program areas, the policy analysis, and the
technical analysis (Copy of the study is on file).
Mr. Wallace discussed the formula used in preparing an impact fee calculation
methodology and explained in detail how those elements were developed.
He summarized his presentation with a time schedule. Providing they reach a consensus
at this meeting, he plans a meeting April 21st with the Professional Services Advisory
Committee, April 28t1' with the Planning and Zoning Commission, May 3rd with the Board of
County Commissioners for the first reading of an ordinance and workshop, and May 17th
adopting these fees at a Board of County Commission Meeting. Today he was seeking a
consensus on the methodology used in the report, consensus and direction on the proposed fees
and a consensus on the interlocal agreements that includes an administrative cost of 3% to the
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county and 2% to the cities. He commented further on the computer collection program that
County staff is developing to assist the cities in tracking and following through in providing
funds to the County. He advised they need to determine an effective date for the ordinance and
he defined the difference between the adoption date and the effective date. He concluded his
presentation pointing out the changes made to addendum pages 3-16, 6-21 and the Chapter 5
revision. He announced he would be available to the city officials after the meeting to address
any issues pertaining to their interlocal agreements that they have not been resolved during the
meeting. He opened up his presentation to questions.
8. DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS
Dr. David Becker, Town of Indian River Shores, questioned the formula used by the
Consultant that showed a large difference in the government buildings' square footage than
found in the public libraries. Mr. Wallace explained public buildings are based on the inventory
per square footage formula showing that more government buildings have more square footage
than there are public libraries. When you add in the libraries' inventory it equalizes out.
Dr. Becker presumed that libraries depend more on bequests and not just donations. Mr.
Wallace confirmed that he was correct in that presumption.
Deputy Mayor John McCants, City of Fellsmere, wanted to know the difference
between the March 4th revision and the March 15th revision to the interlocal agreement. Mr.
Wallace explained the revision concerned the net impact fees due if an addition to a house
triggers it to a higher impact fee category. Another revision eliminated requiring cities to submit
funds to the County with interest. The cities retain the interest. Thirdly changes were made to
clarify the refund of impact fees does not include the administrative fee of 3%.
Councilman E. William Kenyon, Town of Indian River Shores, playing on Mr
McCants question, wanted to know the dollar difference should the impact fee category change.
Councilman Bob Solari, City of Vero Beach, questioned how much impact fees increase
the average cost of a home and how that cost relates to the average income. Mr. Wallace replied
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that was not part of the study. He clarified that the net difference is about $5,000 on a single
family home and less than that on other land uses based on the per 1,000 square feet.
Councilman Richard Dunlop, Town of Orchid, recommended two changes to the
interlocal agreement, 1) include language referring to an error made by the city on impact fees
whereby the city can receive back the administrative fee, and 2) to add a paragraph that obligates
the County to give each of the municipalities a computer program that will do all the accounting
for them and let them electronically submit and transfer all their data every month as they submit
their wire transfers. Mr. Wallace agreed and said their goal is to bring everyone together and
provide that to them.
Councilman Dunlop said after going through all the numbers he disagreed with the
methodology used for the libraries and wanted to know why they showed it as a shortfall. Mr.
Wallace said theoretically it should show a gap because there are other revenue sources that
should bring it close to equaling the total. He said it will not be exact because they may decide
to change those revenue sources in the future and that is the purpose of looking at impact fees
every 3-5 years to fund capital expansion.
Commissioner Wheeler inquired if fast foods, 7 -Eleven and convenience stores are
combined. Mr. Wallace informed him that there is a specific category that allows them to
collect impact fees combined. It covers fast food, convenience and car washes combined.
Commissioner Wheeler assumed when a building burns down there would not be
additional impact fees to rebuild and Mr. Wallace responded affirmatively.
Dr. McGarvey asked Superintendent Maher and Assistant Superintendent of Business
and Finance Ms. Robinson to attend this workshop with him. He stated they might not reach a
consensus today due to the nature of their concerns. Dr. McGarvey disagreed on the
methodology of using historical data instead of current land costs. He begged the municipalities
and the Board to have the land cost in the study reconsidered. Mr. Wallace explained they used
the data available at the time, however, the report can be updated.
Discussion continued regarding the costs of donated sites for schools by developers and
that was not factored into the report. Mr. Wallace informed the School Board they will need to
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deal with each case individually to determine the impact fee credit, or set a policy and have an
independent appraisal completed.
Commissioner Lowther recalled the School Board expressed disinterest in impact fees at
their last workshop. Dr. McGarvey said they understand now that they can legally charge the
impact fee and previously that had been their concern.
Dr. McGarvey advised that the School Board has projected out over the next 15 years
what type of schools and acreage is needed. For this reason he believes the impact fee needs to
be reviewed more frequently than the 3-5 years as proposed.
Commissioner Wheeler felt the total cost to the School Board for schools would average
out after applying the deduction of donated school sites.
Superintendent Maher commented that the public needs to truly understand that impact
fees will not offset the 2 million dollar levy projected in his five-year plan.
Discussion ensued whereby Mr. Wallace addressed additional questions by the School
Board and Superintendent Maher said he would schedule a workshop with his Board and Mr.
Wallace to review other issues.
Vice Mayor White of Vero Beach addressed impact fees for recreational facilities. He
recognized that the level of services analysis and capitol improvements looked at unincorporated
areas. He wanted to know if there is a way to allow a full analysis of both level of services and
capital expansion requirements in city parks and then allow a fund transfer under the interlocal
agreement. County Administrator Baird explained the reason they did not use that approach is
that some jurisdictions do not have public parks. However, the City of Sebastian has their own
park impact fees and all the cities have a different level of service.
Discussion ensued.
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Dr. McGarvey felt the need to review the land issues and other minor issues presented
after one year and then they should move to a three-year review.
Mr. Wallace explained that the indexing impact fees concept could be used to address
the increase in cost that the School Board is seeing and every other infrastructure as well.
Commissioner Wheeler felt impact fees need to be updated annually.
Councilman Dunlop of Orchid recommended waiting long enough to have the School
Board's figures in hand and to have them on the same cycle. In the interim they could look to
the Property Appraiser's information and come up with an index for a yearly review between the
three year periods.
Discussion continued whereby Mr. Wallace recommended they take their best guess at
the index up front, apply it uniformly over a 3 -year period and put it in place, and adjust it
accordingly at the end of the three-year period.
Assistant Superintendent Robinson complimented Mr Wallace and confirmed that he
has worked diligently with the School District and, as said earlier, he is protecting the legality of
the impact fee by making a conservative estimate. She pointed out the cost difference to build a
550 student elementary school to be approximately $10 million according to the report, but the
actual cost is $16 million. She supported the methodology because it is conservative and
defendable, but the standard of construction is based on the restraints passed by the Department
of Education. The legislature is currently taking up this issue. Since the hurricanes and other
issues that have caused the cost of steel to increase they are concerned that an index on the
School Board will not work. They are interested in having methodology go forward as it is and
have an opportunity in a year to come back with calculations that might change up to 20 or 30 %.
Tim Zork, local home builder and a member of the Treasure Coast Building Association,
addressed the issues of shared infrastructure on donated sites with the School Board, the source
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of data used for single family homes and multi -family homes, crediting revenue, and commented
on housing for the service industry.
Dr. McGarvey said they have agreed to move forward and have a workshop the
following week with Mr. Wallace, and they remained with the concern of wanting an annual
review of the impact fees.
Mr. Wallace stated, for the record, the methodologies used in these impact fees are the
same industry standard methodologies used in hundreds of impact fee studies dust in the State of
Florida. The other members of their team, Dr. Chris Nelson and Attorney Tyson Smith who
drafted the ordinance have used these methodologies across the country. No impact fee
methodology ordinance that his firm has done has been successfully challenged in court. He
hoped that he relieved any concerns they may have about the methodologies and the technical
details. He commented he has never worked with a staff that has scrutinized as much detail as
the County staff did and he said it has been a pleasure to work with them.
Chairman Lowther asked for a consensus:
1. Confirming that the methodology in the report is reasonable and will withstand a
challenge if they were challenged;
2. Confirming that the amount of the impact fees as presented is agreeable to the
Board and the Cities, and
3. Confirming that the issues of the interlocal agreement are to be discussed with the
School Board and Mayor Dunlop of the Town of Orchid, specifically.
Overall the municipalities requested more time to make a decision.
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Chairman Lowther asked the Consultant to contact the municipalities within the next two
weeks to answer any questions and to poll the municipalities to determine who is in favor or
opposed to the methodology and impact fees and move forward the date of the next meeting with
the Board.
8. ADJOUR1NMENT - 3:40 P.M.
ATTEST:
Jeff?BC41
arton, Clerk
ALL BACKUP DOCUMENTATION IS ON FILE IN THE
OFFICE OF THE CLERK TO THE BOARD
AND IS HEREBY MADE A PART OF THESE MINUTES
Minutes Approved: APR 1 9 2005
BCC/MIS/JOINT MEETING MINUTES
Thomas S. owther, Chairman
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