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Dr. Fischer believed that he has been creating excellent <br />littoral zones in the lakes he has dug by having mounds in the <br />middle of the lakes, etc. He was concerned that Mr. Kreitman's <br />remark that there is no salt water intrusion in the southern <br />portion of Florida was received with skepticism by the <br />Commission. <br />Jim Frazee, chief hydrologist with the St. Johns River Water <br />Management District, wondered why we have a sand ridge if it is <br />so totally useless. He felt the 25 -ft. requirement is a <br />compromise position, and explained that the Water District uses <br />it because it allows the county to have development, real estate <br />lakes, and the borrow which is needed for many projects. He <br />emphasized that the Water District is not a conservation agency, <br />it is a management agency; it uses the 25 -ft. figure as a <br />guideline. It is not a standard, and it is not set in stone. <br />Lengthy discussion ensued about having all the larger mines <br />permitted by the Water District and having the small mines with <br />thresholds of 12 acres or less continue to have their permits <br />reviewed by the County. Most everyone seemed to like that idea. <br />Fred Mensing of Roseland questioned the 25 -ft. figure, and <br />Mr. Frazee explained that you could dig a substantial pit <br />especially in the Wabasso area with the cross sections there. <br />Carol Fall, also with the St. Johns River Water Management <br />District, explained that the Water District recommends a maximum <br />of 12 feet for the overall depths of the lakes resulting from <br />mining operations in order to prevent a condition at the bottom <br />of the pond where there is no oxygen and which greatly reduces <br />the stormwater treatment. <br />Robert Keating, Director of Planning & Development, pointed <br />out that these lakes are not for the purpose of stormwater basins <br />since they have no outlet, but Ms. Fall explained that after a <br />while some residential developers want to work these lakes into <br />their stormwater run-off system. One of the things the Water <br />5 <br />APR 27 198 <br />BOO 7 <br />�'$ lE 242 <br />