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Mr. Kirrie responded by saying, "Let's get down to an actual number". He explained that he has not responded to the request because the request was very, very specific as to a precise time. The time was the passage of Ordinance 87-22, at which time he had zero employees other than family. However, the year prior to that he had 8 employees. Mr. Kirrie stated that the maximum number of outside employees he has ever had, with no expansion, was 8 plus 4 family members. Commissioner Scurlock noted that 8 and 4 makes 12, and staff is already at 9. Mr. Kirrie asked if the Commission would be satisfied with limiting him according to the ROSE -4 criteria for traffic generation, which is the criteria for limiting him in the first place. Commissioner Scurlock felt that what Administrator Chandler is trying to accomplish here is to have something in black and white so that if the problem arises, we have a specific number for a Code Enforcement officer to refer to. If Mr. Kirrie is talking about just relating it to trip flow, then you have a traffic counter and you would have peak or average daily flow. He felt a specific number would be much clearer for everybody. Mr. Kirrie understood that, but felt that if the Board feels that it must limit him to a specific number, it should be done by the numbers. On page 5 of his packet, it says that "traffic is not generated in excess of that customary for residential use." Commissioner Eggert felt that would be more restrictive, but Mr. Kirrie didn't think it would be. He then addressed the formulas for vehicle trip ends shown on page 23 of his packet, and pointed out that if we look at the overall picture, the bottom line is that he has sufficient property there to put in 7 dwelling units. Staff's own numbers from their memo dated 5/9/88, says that 7 trip ends would be produced per 1000 sq. ft., and since he has 4.7 thousand feet, that would make him 16.5 MAY 161989 25 Rona 76 PATE 8b8