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William Koolage, interested citizen, noted that he comes to all the Commission meetings, and he is as exposed as anyone. He has been through airport security systems and has seen them triggered by a piece of foil. Mr. Koolage continued that he has read the whole file submitted by Judge Geiger, and while he did believe this has been negotiated down to a much more reasonable level, he is concerned about the taxpayers' money, and people face dangers just walking down the street. There are criminals walking down the street that should be in jail. There will always be incidences, but he did not feel that just because the Board does not put the equipment in and an• incident occurs, it is their fault. That is a lot of hooey! He felt the judges and lawyers are after a lot of "overkill" and as a citizen, he does not feel this is necessary. Commissioner Bird asked what our position is if we disregard the Judge's Order, and Attorney Vitunac stated that he has doubts as to how enforceable that order is and would ask that Judge Kanarek speak to that. Judge Kanarek felt that question should be asked of Judge Geiger as he is the Chief Judge. His personal opinion is that the Chief Judge has the authority to enter that Order and has the authority to compel the security requirements, but he felt the Board should rely on Mr. Vitunac's opinion. Attorney Vitunac's opinion was that the Board has the choice not to go along with the Order unless these things are absolutely essential to the running of the courthouse. He felt there is a limit to what a judge can order and there is a question as to whether this Order violates that limit or not. Commissioner Bird assumed that the Board is looking at this as a band aid approach for an interim period and that, if we turn this down, the Commission is agreeable to looking into incorpora- ting these type of measures in a new courthouse. He was assured this is to be incorporated in that design, NOV ' U6 cti 39 BOOK 78 F'1is314