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Commissioner Bird wished to know who decides how far a study needs to go at an intersection for example, and Director Keating advised that is one criteria we are looking at and that is where we are considering 50 of the site traffic itself or 50 trips, whichever is least. Commissioner Bird then asked if you build a commercial project with 500 trips, who decides where those trips are going, and .is it necessary to hire a traffic engineer. Mr. Dudeck stated that staff can work with them on determin- ing this - they look at it depending on location, and where you have a more critical location, it would require an analysis. Commissioner Bird continued to stress the need to save the applicant's trouble as much as possible. Commissioner Bowman left the meeting at 9:25 A.M. Director Keating pointed out that if someone does not think the figures in these tables are right, they can do their own traffic count. Chairman Eggert asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak on either the Concurrency Management or Traffic Chapters. Todd Smith, of Peterson & Votapka, Engineers, believed that in the Comp Plan, it allows you to go up to 1,000 trips if you are not in a critical transportation location and he felt the LDR now will eliminate that ability completely. In regard to the use of a project, Mr. Smith stated that if a developer comes in with something like a strip building, for instance, with a certain percent of the building to be used for offices, etc., the problem they have been seeing is -'that staff tends to come back and hit them with the highest uses.` In example, if the property is zoned for a convenience store but the developer has no intention of putting that use in his project, staff still says use that figure. In their office they have even tried having restrictive 9 U (i AUG 09 19y 3F 90 1 J