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Mr. Luethje explained that Bent Pine wants more than the <br />allowed two months to excavate the 40 -acre pit. The 2 -month time <br />limit applies to sand mines incidental to construction. He <br />stressed that the pit will be used eventually as a lake for the <br />golf course. <br />Director Boling advised that some of the special protections <br />that we put on permanent mines would not apply to mines incidental <br />to construction such as proposed by Bent Pine. <br />Chairman Macht pointed out that there is a big difference <br />between a 5 or 10 acre mining operation and the lakes proposed by <br />Bent Pine. Commissioner Bird felt that in this case,it does make <br />sense, but he cautioned that we have to make sure that we can live <br />with it in other situations. If this were done incidental to <br />construction, it would be done under the normal 2 -month time frame, <br />but because of the magnitude of this, we have to think about <br />buffering because it becomes a commercial mining operation for a <br />limited amount of time. <br />Richard Burklew, hydrologist with the St. Johns River Water <br />Management District, gave his opinion of the difference between a <br />30 -ft. versus 12 -ft. depth restriction. He stressed that St. Johns <br />concern on this particular project is to work with the golf course <br />to reduce their use of ground water for irrigation. <br />Dennis Smith, sand mining operator, believed we were here to <br />look at existing mine ordinances, not another project that looks <br />like competition to existing mines. He would like to see how this <br />project is going to affect the existing mining operations. <br />George Hamner, member of the Planning & Zoning Commission, <br />advised that the P & Z dealt with this issue earlier this year. He <br />stressed that there is a time factor when you are dealing with <br />agriculture east of I-95. He agreed with Commissioner Bird that we <br />don't need to tinker with or fix something that isn't broken. <br />Director Boling spoke on specific time frames and the question <br />of what assurance the neighbors would have. Staff sees that as a <br />problem. <br />Chairman Macht felt the Board would like to see that addressed <br />in the report that is brought back. <br />Commissioner Bird asked about effluent treatment, and Scott <br />Bell, golf course supervisor at Bent Pine, reported that the <br />Utilities Department has advised that there is no effluent <br />available right now. <br />Mr. Luethje noted that if Grand Harbor buys the fill, they <br />could finish the mining in 12 months after they get permitted and <br />started. <br />15 <br />SEPTEMBER 21, 1995 ooK �� FArlr 904 <br />