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J wide. He agreed the cost is staggering, but pointed out that it did come in $50,000 under estimate. He felt build- ing a new facility would entail a great deal more money and, in addition, it is not in the budget. Administrator Wright pointed out that the refinancing did not provide sufficient money to do the job, and whatever we do will require borrowing. Judge Smith noted that it is certainly easier to borrow $150,000 or so rather than one million. Chairman Scurlock felt the key is trying to balance how much money we should spend in a facility that, even accord- ing to Judge Smith, should be relocated to a larger complex with sufficient room to expand. Judge Smith stressed that he was not suggesting that we abandon these facilities in 3 - 5 years, but rather, if we find after that period, that new courtrooms are needed; then, the County go ahead and build county courtrooms or circuit courtrooms, but retain the four courtrooms in the present complex. Chairman Scurlock felt the Judge had talked about putting everything in one facility so we didn't have this labor problem, and Judge Smith stated that would be the ultimate goal. Administrator Wright emphasized that is what we are recommending, i.e., we are saying that they will have to have new courtrooms in 3 - 5 years or we will have to have more courthouse space. So, let's not pour money down the drain and create a space problem; let's bite the bullet; build them of sufficient size; and build them now. We already have a site with utilities and it would just be a matter of retaining an architect and building. Judge Smith stressed that a site sufficient for 20 years down the road is needed, and the Administrator noted that we have it. The Judge asked if the Commission is ready 5 SEP 10 1984 BOOK 58 FAGS 209