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pp®® Bou 88 Pmjr 760 on or off the job around the time Mrs. Callahan had discharged him, and Mr. Hallquist answered, "No, sir." Director of Personnel Jack Price recalled that when Mrs. Callahan brought Jon to his office to follow up on some discussion she had been having with him because she was considering his termination, Jon was extremely apprehensive. When Jon entered the office and shook hands, he noticed that Jon's hand was wringing wet and he was trembling. In an attempt to be gentle with Jon, he simply asked him if it was true he had a long-term relationship with drugs. Director Price stated that if he had that to do over again, he probably would have asked the question in a much more direct fashion. However, he remembers those words exactly, and Jon acknowledged that it was true. From that point they went on to discuss alternatives and assistance that might be available to him, but Jon's interest at that time was in talking about other prospects of work with the County and the regulations related to unemployment compensation. Commissioner Eggert asked Director Price what. alternatives were brought forward in this case, and Director Price stated that the discussion only got as far as indicated due to Jon's unwillingness to discuss alternatives and what might be done. Mrs. Callahan had related to him that she extended the same service to Jon, but he communicated to her that he had no interest in that sort of thing because he did not have a drug problem. He told her he could stop it at any time and didn't need any assistance with the drug problem. So, there was minimal discussion of drug and alcohol abuse treatment in the office that day. Chairman Bird asked Jon what he is asking this appeal board to do on his behalf if he had his choice and if the Board found in his favor, and Mr. Hallquist stated that he would be requesting that he be reinstated in his position as lifeguard supervisor with back pay from the time of termination up to this point. Commissioner Adams asked if Jon had sought treatment for depression, and Mr. Hallquist explained that he had not because he already was having problems with making child support payments, mortgage payments, and various other things. He felt that it was just a passing thing and was hoping that it would just pass. Part of the problem was that some of the things he was watching on TV were depressing. So, he got rid of his TV and went to the library, but the books he selected only added to his depression. Then he joined a class on writing children's books, feeling that if he just could steer his life away from certain things, he could find some joy in his life. Some people felt he should see someone about it, and maybe he should have, but it was a matter of being able to 2- - M M M